thepenofareadywriter
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if I was a potter and made 5 cups each one unique and made according to my fashion how can the cup complain about being a cup instead of a plate...and if the book is true...why would we want a free will?
HEY christian If there was a free will... would not free will imply...
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Beefbisquit
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So, you're saying god created us faulty and then blames us for his own mistakes.
I don't think you understand what predestined means. If you're predestined there is no choice, it HAS TO happen, or it's not predestined. This is like you and your 'prophecies'. They need to actually happen or they're not prophecies, they're just a random dude with no credentials or reason to make predictions, making predictions. Which is what you're doing. There is nothing prophetic about you or your prophecies. You = some crazy guy on the internet making guesses as to what might happen in the future.
Thank you, Captain obvious.
If god has a plan for you, but you can 'override' it, god sucks at getting shit done. It also means, that predestination doesn't exist. If god can't predetermine something, no one can and we should stop using the word altogether. Also, if god can't predetermine something, he's not omnipotent.
If god is omniscient he knows what anyone/everyone will do throughout their entire life. So, how can someone know what you'll do in every instance of your life, but still give you control of your own life? The fact that god is all knowing, implies, by default, that predestination must exist. There is no possible way to know what a person will do with 100% certainty without their actions being predetermined.
Being an 'agnostic' doesn't make sense in the way you're using it. Come on, Georgie-porgie puddin' and pie, let's try to remember what we've discussed. Let's use big boy words, and big boy terms.
You, are a theist. You might be an agnostic theist, but you are still a theist.
Beefbisquit
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There is no free will.
Only the illusion of free will. Everyone appears to have choices, but in reality, you would always make the same decision because the same determining factors in your life would be identical.
Thought experiment;
You decide to go to the store to buy a drink. You enter the store, go to the cooler, and pick up a coke. Let's pretend there is a 'god', who is all powerful, all knowing, and omnipresent watching you. Without you knowing, god stops time and rewinds it for the entire universe to before you opened the cooler and pulled out a coke. Now, would you make the same decision to buy coke again if all the variables were the same? Yes, you would. The other option isn't even a possibility because all of the variables that added up to make you choose coke would be the same. The molecules in your brain would be in the same locations, the air would be in the same places, blowing in the same direction, how could it possibly hold true that under the exact same circumstances it's possible to make a different selection of drink?
Whatever process happened to guide your selection to the coke the first time, would happen the exact same way again. You would be making the only decision possible. The fact that other drinks exist and that you appear to have the ability to choose them is just an illusion. You will chose the only drink possible because the variables in your life that led up to the moment before your drink selection only allow for one 'selection'.
Only the illusion of free will. Everyone appears to have choices, but in reality, you would always make the same decision because the same determining factors in your life would be identical.
Thought experiment;
You decide to go to the store to buy a drink. You enter the store, go to the cooler, and pick up a coke. Let's pretend there is a 'god', who is all powerful, all knowing, and omnipresent watching you. Without you knowing, god stops time and rewinds it for the entire universe to before you opened the cooler and pulled out a coke. Now, would you make the same decision to buy coke again if all the variables were the same? Yes, you would. The other option isn't even a possibility because all of the variables that added up to make you choose coke would be the same. The molecules in your brain would be in the same locations, the air would be in the same places, blowing in the same direction, how could it possibly hold true that under the exact same circumstances it's possible to make a different selection of drink?
Whatever process happened to guide your selection to the coke the first time, would happen the exact same way again. You would be making the only decision possible. The fact that other drinks exist and that you appear to have the ability to choose them is just an illusion. You will chose the only drink possible because the variables in your life that led up to the moment before your drink selection only allow for one 'selection'.
Nevaeh420
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I never said God blames us for anything. I believe in a Final Judgment after we die, to determine the amount of felicity of our next life, contingent upon our deeds, thoughts, actions, faith, and over all intetions of this life. So maybe God will determine where our next life will be and SOME of the events that will happen, in our next life. Its possible anyways, just a personal belief of Mine, I cant prove it though.
Why cant there be a spectrum of predestination? Maybe God cares about some events in your life but not the "intermission" between them. Do you think God cares about every time you masturbate, pick your nose, wipe your ass, fart, scratch your balls, sneeze, sleep, move around, etc etc?
Beef, would you like to see all of My prophecies be fulfilled? And if not, why not?
Youre welcome Mr. Know it all.
Whos to say people cant predetermine things? If I say "Im Christ and we are all going to be flying around in SPACE JETS; we are going to be living UNDERGROUND, IN MOUNTAINS, FLOATING ON THE OCEAN, UNDERWATER, UNDER THE OCEAN FLOOR, AND ON OTHER PLANETS; because Im Christ and I said so." Someone is predestined to read that if indeed people are going to read what Ive typed. There are many ways to set things up and predetermine what people will do. To be veridical, I dont know if God is a fact, but if there is a God, Im sure He has a lot more options then we do to fulfill His plan- whatever that is.
I dont believe God is omnipotent, but maybe He is omnicient and omnipresent.
I cant refute that, I agree.
Thats right, I have a propensity to believe in the possibility of God, a Theist believes in God.
But Im also very skeptical of God because the lack of proof- Agnostic.
So if I had to choose between being an Agnostic Atheist or Agnostic Theist; I would choose Agnostic Theist because I would love for their to be a God, I just dont see the emperical evidence to belive either way.
But Im not a Theist, Im Agnostic Theist, there is a big difference.
~PEACE~
tyler.durden
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Same reason there can't be a spectrum of pregnancy...
If god knows when and where the major events will take place, he knows the minor ones. It's about knowing, not caring...
You still don't get it, no big surprise. Theism is about belief, agnosticism is about knowledge; you either do or do not believe in a god, there is no middle ground. Agnosticism is about knowledge; you either think we can know if a god exists or not. If you believe there is a god, but accept you can't know for sure, you're an agnostic theist. If you believe there's a god and think you can know for sure, you're an gnostic theist. Theist or atheist, you are either agnostic or not. There are no other choices. Example, I'm going to walk to where I parked my car shortly; I believe that it is there (theist), but I cannot know if it is there (agnostic) until I get to where I parked it (it may have been stolen or towed). If I had a video camera feed showing my car, I could know it was there (gnostic); so in that case I'd believe and know it was where I parked it (gnostic theist). This is how I'd explain it to a four year old, so I'm hoping you can follow it...
You are a theist because you do believe a god exists, and you are either gnostic or agnostic when it comes to whether or not we can know god exists. From what you write, you're definitely an agnostic theist. Deal with it...
Beefbisquit
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If god is judging us after we die, based on faults that he created us with, that to me, is blaming us for his own mistakes.
How is it possible to predetermine certain things without all things being predetermined? How can god guarantee you'll be somewhere to do something at a certain time, or that you'll have the skills necessary to perform the task if you're free to do whatever you want before hand? Are you suggesting that when if comes to the events that god does have predetermined, that people just go on 'auto-pilot' and perform miraculous things they've never been capable of, with no practice or previous knowledge beforehand?
So, wait - now we're being re-incarnated too? Do you not understand that if god is leaving the decisions up to us, that by default, he cannot know what we're going to do, and by default is neither omnipotent or omniscient?
Whether or not god 'cares' is irrelevant. All of the times you piss, shit, fart, jerk-off, etc. have an impact on your life and affect your decisions. If god didn't know what you did, how could god possible ensure you were doing the predetermined task he predetermined for you? If I'm god, and I want you to be in Cleveland, Ohio @ 2pm on Saturday to put out a fire, I have to ensure that you're not doing whatever you want to do, you have to be doing something that allows you to be in Cleveland, Ohio @ 2pm on Saturday, at the exact location of the fire.
There is no room for free-will when determinism is happening.
You're welcome, Mr. Know-it-all.
I don't think you understand what predetermined means. It's impossible for people to predetermine things because we don't have enough information available to us. Humans can only make accurate guesses or predictions at the liklihood of things, predetermination would require knowledge of what every atom, and every bit of energy in the entire universe was doing simultaneously.
Again, I don't think you understand what predetermination is.
I know you don't like to educate yourself, but here's an article that can go into more depth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace's_demon
If god is omniscient he knew before the universe was even created, how and when, each and every 'sinner' would sin. It's not possible to be omniscient and not have certain knowledge.
You do believe one or the other. It's not possible to know about something and to know about the concept of something 'existing' and not know if you think something exists or not. Belief doesn't necessarily require proof, but knowledge does. So, you didn't answer the question. Besides the fact that you claim to be the son of god, and a savior, and messiah, you talk like a theist.
You're a theist. You believe in god. You might not be able to prove god exists, so you're an agnostic theist, but still a theist.
Nevaeh420
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Do you really believe this?
Only a person that believes in God believes in predestination; because Athiests dont believe in any Higher Power or God, so there is nothing controlling them as far as dieties go.
Im sure most Atheists believe the only option they have is free will because there is no God to them.
Youre making the assumption that there is a God, and God can play with time, i.e., reverse time. Science hasnt proved either one yet, and you, as an Atheist, can only base your assertions off of science because you dont believe in any theology.
Youre jumping to conclusions about God and that God has the ability to time travel; not a position that an Atheist might have.
Maybe the character in your story just likes coke, lol.
~PEACE~
Beefbisquit
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Do not confuse predetermined and predestined. Predestined implies a will, or motivation. Predetermination only means that factors leading up to the event ultimately determine the outcome.
It's called a thought experiment. It's an example given, with a set list of parameters designed to provoke thought. I'm not jumping to any conclusions, I'm saying "If it were like this, think about this...". None of your points make any difference to the outcome of the thought experiment, and whether or not god exists is irrelevant. You don't understand that the point of the experiment is 'why' does he want the coke, and if all variables are the same; is it possible to get a different outcome? Like talking to a wall sometimes.
The point is that if determinism is NOT true, it should be possible to choose another drink. It just doesn't logically follow.
Think about any decision you've ever made. If time 'hiccuped' and somehow jumped 5 seconds backwards without anyone knowing, would you make the same decision again? The answer is yes. You would because it's the only decision you could have made. The person bought the coke because they like coke based on previous experiences, and saw a coke ad 5 mins previous, or some other set of variables that led them to choose coke over the other drinks. If time somehow looped back 5 seconds, none of those things would change and the person would make the exact same decision again.
This touches on time travel too, anything that happened as a result of traveling back in time, would have happened the 'first' time. That's to say, if in 1999 you went back to 1945, in 1945 you would of had to of been there. It's not like 1945 happened once, then 54 years passed until 1999, then you went back in time and appeared in 1945. When 1945 happened, YOU WERE THERE. There is no 'first' 1945, and 'second' 1945, that happen independently, they are the same event.
Nevaeh420
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I dont feel like getting into semantics right now.
You guys could be right and I could be wrong, its a subjective conversation we are having.
You guys are smarter then Me, at least you both call Me out on it all the time. Im just blogging to have fun and keep busy, and maybe learn something.
My point is that I believe there could be a spectrum between free will and predestination. I think its impossible for God to dictate EVERY single move a person makes, and thoughts dictate action too, so thoughts as well. Hypothetically, if there is a God, He might only care about the major events, like fulfilling His Master plan- whatever that is. Why does there have to be a dichotomy between either all free will or all predestination? Why cant God just be a guiding Force that leads you to your predetermined destination? with plenty of free will involved along the way? If God is whats Hes cracked up to be, then He can do what He wants. It also could be possible that God has more of a destiny for select people and not everyone. He could, for example, leave the Atheists alone because they dont want anything to do with God, and Hes a gentleman and doesnt impose on the insolent.
Can I prove anything I just said? No, but its My opinion and conjecture.
EDIT- For a couple of Atheists, you sure do KNOW a lot about God, lol.
~PEACE~
thepenofareadywriter
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let's look at adam and eve wether fiction or fact let's look at the story...god said don't eat of the tree in the midst of the garden least you die, along comes the serpent says eat eve replys no and the reason why, the serpent says [no you won't die] that was the lie...the truth that the serpent spoke was [your eyes will be open and you shall know the difference between good and bad] they ate their eyes were opened and they knew they were naked...there was no choice since they knew not right or wrong... they moved by reflex... [the plan]...free will was created by man that was convinced that he was imperfect...we all perfectly made to be and do what we are [prewired]
tyler.durden
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Well, you don't get it, George. It is a difficult concept, maybe impossible to understand without properly educating yourself. These subjects are akin to adults speaking about intricate finances, and you come along wanting to participate yelling, "I have money too! It's in my piggy bank..." Most adults just smile and nod, but a couple may actually try to explain to the child the subject is more complex than that. Maybe it's not fair that we expect you to be able to understand. IME, most atheists know more about religion than theists because we study the religious texts in their entirety, while theists usually do not...
Nevaeh420
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The story of Adam and Eve is proof that the Biblical God is not omnipotent, omnicient, or omnipresent.
If God was omnipotent, He wouldnt have let Adam and Eve eat the apple regardless of what the "serpent" said.
If God was omnicient, He would have not let the "serpent" into the garden because He would know the "serpent" would temp them.
If God was omnipresent, He would live in the "serpent" and not let the "serpent" do anything wrong because God would be inside of everything.
Its a good story, but I think its a metaphor for a part of My Life, when I was with My ex fiance. I was "Adam" and she was My "Eve". (I can explain if anyone wants.)
~PEACE~
Beefbisquit
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The bible wasn't written about you, you're not that important.
Although, I can see how pretending can be fun, I used to play pretend all the time when I was a child.
That's how I see you, George. As a child, incapable of understanding complex issues like the one's we're discussing.
So, with that in mind, you keep on keepin' on, Georgie Porgie Puddin' and pie; you keep kissing those girls and making them cry.
eye exaggerate
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Adam / the brain
Eve / the sex organ (male and female)
Eve, the sex organ, tempts Adam by sensation.
Since we do not know what created sex we can only be 'as God' by way of the act of sex. Notice how it's not "you will BE God", but instead "LIKE God" - creating with sssssssssssssssex, though imperfectly.
Anyway.
Q: Why are quantum physicists so poor at sex?
A: Because when they find the position, they can't find the momentum, and when they have the momentum, they can't find the position.
Eve / the sex organ (male and female)
Eve, the sex organ, tempts Adam by sensation.
Since we do not know what created sex we can only be 'as God' by way of the act of sex. Notice how it's not "you will BE God", but instead "LIKE God" - creating with sssssssssssssssex, though imperfectly.
Anyway.
Q: Why are quantum physicists so poor at sex?
A: Because when they find the position, they can't find the momentum, and when they have the momentum, they can't find the position.
Zaehet Strife
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eye exaggerate
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"The “tree of life” represents the human body, Adam represents the masculine energy in our bodies (yang in Chinese Theory) and Eve represents the feminine energy in our bodies (yin in Chinese theory). The snake or serpent represents the sexual/life-force energy inside our bodies (known as “Kundalini” in Yoga, which is also represented as a snake or serpent).
The teaching behind this story is that through proper control—and by control, I do not mean suppression of our sexual/life-force energy—we can become a fully liberated human being and live in a state of complete bliss, i.e. the “Garden of Eden”, like a Jesus, a Buddha or any of the thousands and thousands of other not so well-known saints.
However, as the story goes, Adam (male aspect) was tempted by Eve (female aspect) to taste the forbidden apple, i.e. his own sexual energy. By wasting his own sexual energy, he (humanity) was led on a downward slide, i.e. banished from the Garden of Eden. This parable indicates that the unwise expression of our sexual energy is very detrimental to our well-being, and causes a lot of unhappiness in the world. Wasting our sexual energy means that we can never live in paradise (Garden of Eden), i.e. we can never live in the blissful state experienced by a Jesus or a Buddha.
On the other hand, this story is also the key to our liberation. But unfortunately, not many religious leaders understand this, and if they do, they will probably not share this information. Why? Because it will give the power back to the individuals where it belongs and the organized religions will no longer be required. Yes, they will be out of a job and there will be some prime real estate up for sale!
[h=4]Adam & Eve and Yoga[/h]Yoga is a scientific, practical and experiential approach towards man’s happiness and well-being that has been proven over a five thousand-year history (that we know of). Yogis believe that most of our unhappiness is created by too much “thinking” or “incorrect thinking” which leads to wasting sexual/life-force energy. Too much thinking causes too much stimulation of the Ida and Pingala nadis, and too much stimulation of the Ida and Pingala nadis(caused by emotional imbalance) causes too much thinking, which in turn creates an even busier and more unbalanced mind.
This vicious cycle of thinking-stimulation-thinking becomes self-perpetuating, dragging the individual down physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. In order to break this harmful downward spiral, Yogis use a combination of dietary adjustments, physical postures, breathing techniques and creative visualizations to slow down the movement of energy through the Ida (female) and Pingala (male) Nadis. As the energy in these two nadis slows down and stabilizes, the mind becomes quieter and the excess (sexual/life-force) energy that was previously wasted in the unwise expression of sexual energy and in useless mind chatter now becomes “stored” within the body.
The “storage” occurs at the triangular bone at the base of the spine—the sacrum. It is interesting that we in the West use the term “sacrum” to represent this area of the body because sacrum etymologically means “sacred” and this area of the body is the seat of the organs of procreation i.e. the home of our sexual energy; suggesting that our forefathers were well aware of the sacredness of our sexual energy.
With continued regulation of sexual energy, together with the purification (balancing) of the Ida and Pingala nadisusing Yoga practices, the “dormant (balanced) serpent (sexual/life-force) energy” stored at the sacrum will enter theSushumna at the base of the spine and with ongoing (Yoga) practices the energy will rise up the Sushumna nadi to meet the Sahasrara (Crown Chakra) at the top of the head.
When this happens, the Yogi becomes a fully liberated human being—enlightened, Self-realized, living in a state of complete inner peace and bliss, i.e. living in the Garden of Eden! This state is represented in the previous illustration by the wings sprouting from the centre at the top of the head.
The similarities in these two illustrations above are amazing, and yet, in organized religion, the power is always given to something outside of the individual when in fact the power has always been there, right within us the whole time.
What is also interesting is that many medical associations around the world also use the same symbol.
[h=4]The Caduceus—the Secret to Perfect Health[/h]Most people have seen the Caduceus—yesterday, I saw one on the window of an ambulance. Why is the Caduceus used as a symbol for medical care? The Caduceus is not only the symbolic secret to our spiritual liberation as I have already explained, but is also the symbolic secret to perfect health.
Balancing the energy in the Ida and Pingala Nadis using Yoga techniques leads the energy flow into the Sushumna, creating balance in the central nervous system. Balance in the central nervous system (brain and spinal cord) leads to the correct functioning of the peripheral nervous system (cranial and peripheral nerves), which then creates balance in the somatic nervous system (voluntary movement) and autonomic nervous systems (involuntary movements such as cardiovascular, digestion, reproduction, etc.). Having achieved balance in the autonomic nervous system means that we will have the correct functioning of the sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight response) and parasympathetic nervous system (regulating internal organs and glands), resulting in perfect pathological health!
And by now it should not surprise you that the composition of our DNA is a double helix. Is it not spooky at how closely it represents the model Yogis gave us for our spiritual liberation thousands of years ago? Thoth, the “keeper of the records” in Egyptian times dating back to 10,000 years ago, who is claimed to have written the Emerald Tablets (oldest known spiritual teachings), stated the universal law… “As above, so it is below” meaning that the microcosm represents the macrocosm and vice versa. Here we have the symbolism of Adam and Eve as the key to our spiritual liberation and perfect health being an identical “symbol” of our DNA. Thoth could not have been more correct.
There is no power outside of you that can make you happy or unhappy, healthy or unhealthy—all the power and all the answers reside inside you."
The teaching behind this story is that through proper control—and by control, I do not mean suppression of our sexual/life-force energy—we can become a fully liberated human being and live in a state of complete bliss, i.e. the “Garden of Eden”, like a Jesus, a Buddha or any of the thousands and thousands of other not so well-known saints.
However, as the story goes, Adam (male aspect) was tempted by Eve (female aspect) to taste the forbidden apple, i.e. his own sexual energy. By wasting his own sexual energy, he (humanity) was led on a downward slide, i.e. banished from the Garden of Eden. This parable indicates that the unwise expression of our sexual energy is very detrimental to our well-being, and causes a lot of unhappiness in the world. Wasting our sexual energy means that we can never live in paradise (Garden of Eden), i.e. we can never live in the blissful state experienced by a Jesus or a Buddha.
On the other hand, this story is also the key to our liberation. But unfortunately, not many religious leaders understand this, and if they do, they will probably not share this information. Why? Because it will give the power back to the individuals where it belongs and the organized religions will no longer be required. Yes, they will be out of a job and there will be some prime real estate up for sale!
[h=4]Adam & Eve and Yoga[/h]Yoga is a scientific, practical and experiential approach towards man’s happiness and well-being that has been proven over a five thousand-year history (that we know of). Yogis believe that most of our unhappiness is created by too much “thinking” or “incorrect thinking” which leads to wasting sexual/life-force energy. Too much thinking causes too much stimulation of the Ida and Pingala nadis, and too much stimulation of the Ida and Pingala nadis(caused by emotional imbalance) causes too much thinking, which in turn creates an even busier and more unbalanced mind.
This vicious cycle of thinking-stimulation-thinking becomes self-perpetuating, dragging the individual down physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. In order to break this harmful downward spiral, Yogis use a combination of dietary adjustments, physical postures, breathing techniques and creative visualizations to slow down the movement of energy through the Ida (female) and Pingala (male) Nadis. As the energy in these two nadis slows down and stabilizes, the mind becomes quieter and the excess (sexual/life-force) energy that was previously wasted in the unwise expression of sexual energy and in useless mind chatter now becomes “stored” within the body.
The “storage” occurs at the triangular bone at the base of the spine—the sacrum. It is interesting that we in the West use the term “sacrum” to represent this area of the body because sacrum etymologically means “sacred” and this area of the body is the seat of the organs of procreation i.e. the home of our sexual energy; suggesting that our forefathers were well aware of the sacredness of our sexual energy.
With continued regulation of sexual energy, together with the purification (balancing) of the Ida and Pingala nadisusing Yoga practices, the “dormant (balanced) serpent (sexual/life-force) energy” stored at the sacrum will enter theSushumna at the base of the spine and with ongoing (Yoga) practices the energy will rise up the Sushumna nadi to meet the Sahasrara (Crown Chakra) at the top of the head.
When this happens, the Yogi becomes a fully liberated human being—enlightened, Self-realized, living in a state of complete inner peace and bliss, i.e. living in the Garden of Eden! This state is represented in the previous illustration by the wings sprouting from the centre at the top of the head.
The similarities in these two illustrations above are amazing, and yet, in organized religion, the power is always given to something outside of the individual when in fact the power has always been there, right within us the whole time.
What is also interesting is that many medical associations around the world also use the same symbol.
[h=4]The Caduceus—the Secret to Perfect Health[/h]Most people have seen the Caduceus—yesterday, I saw one on the window of an ambulance. Why is the Caduceus used as a symbol for medical care? The Caduceus is not only the symbolic secret to our spiritual liberation as I have already explained, but is also the symbolic secret to perfect health.
Balancing the energy in the Ida and Pingala Nadis using Yoga techniques leads the energy flow into the Sushumna, creating balance in the central nervous system. Balance in the central nervous system (brain and spinal cord) leads to the correct functioning of the peripheral nervous system (cranial and peripheral nerves), which then creates balance in the somatic nervous system (voluntary movement) and autonomic nervous systems (involuntary movements such as cardiovascular, digestion, reproduction, etc.). Having achieved balance in the autonomic nervous system means that we will have the correct functioning of the sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight response) and parasympathetic nervous system (regulating internal organs and glands), resulting in perfect pathological health!
And by now it should not surprise you that the composition of our DNA is a double helix. Is it not spooky at how closely it represents the model Yogis gave us for our spiritual liberation thousands of years ago? Thoth, the “keeper of the records” in Egyptian times dating back to 10,000 years ago, who is claimed to have written the Emerald Tablets (oldest known spiritual teachings), stated the universal law… “As above, so it is below” meaning that the microcosm represents the macrocosm and vice versa. Here we have the symbolism of Adam and Eve as the key to our spiritual liberation and perfect health being an identical “symbol” of our DNA. Thoth could not have been more correct.
There is no power outside of you that can make you happy or unhappy, healthy or unhealthy—all the power and all the answers reside inside you."
Nevaeh420
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I have fulfilled plenty of Biblical stories. To Me, its more evidence that Im Christ, the Anointed One.
I dont know HOW I inadvertantly fulfilled so much scripture, but I undoubtedly did fulfill many scriptures. I had no idea I was fulfilling scripture when I was in the act of it, but I found out when I eventually read the Bible.
All Im saying is that there are many paralells between My Life and some scriptures in the Bible. I can prove that this is a fact, the paralells anyways. There is evidence to prove this.
The Bible has many metaphors relative to My Life.
Matthew 18:2-4
New King James Version (NKJV)
2*Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, 3*and said, Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. 4*Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven."
Im a Child spiritually, I still need to learn much. But spiritually, whos an "adult" anyways? Regardless, Im still going to die for My people one day. I will die for all the Atheists also, I love the Atheists too much not to die for them. Im the Life, what happens when the Life is gone?
~PEACE~
tyler.durden
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That is because you have a mental disorder...
Many people can see similarities between their lives and the stories of the bible. That is by design, the bible was written largely so that people could relate to it. It's a big part of it's appeal. But it is very common for people with mental disorders to take it too far and they think they are singled out and somehow special. That's where you come in, Georgy...
Not just spiritually, but also emotionally and academically...
We'll be fine. Lots of nuts think that the world will stop spinning when they die, and it never does...
Nevaeh420
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How can you explain all of the Biblical stories that I have fulfilled.
Or you dont know the Biblical stories I fulfilled?
You cant talk shit unless you know what Im talking about or referring to.
What are all the stories from that Bible that Im claiming to have fulfilled?
P.S. Thanks for the rebuttal, BEEF.
~PEACE~
thepenofareadywriter
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first off there was no mention of an apple ,you are not anointed, and you are not spiritual, at most you have the same thinking as everyday Christian,which is not saying much....I'll finish after dinner
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