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Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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kpmarine said:
I gave you full point by point rebuttals in the past that included how walking underwater is not remotely similar to walking on water; and how fishing and getting a good catch is not equatable to feeding a multitude with 2 fish and a loaf of bread. You keep choosing to go "But, that's like, just your opinion man.".
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Kpmarine, I like you buddy; you seem like a straight shooter,

You gave Me that rebuttal MONTHS AGO. You havent even been blogging in the "Spirituality, Sexuality, and Philosophy" section of RIU for a long time now. You should join us more often.

Are you an Atheist also?

Atheists may never see My Truth and My "logic". I would appeal more to a people that are looking for the ("Second Coming" of) Christ. To some Atheists, Im just the "crazy dude" with "mental disorders" and whatever you Atheists may believe about Me. And I may be a little crazy and have some mental issues but doesnt everyone? Whos right about EVERYTHING 100% of the time? Who knows all the spiritual answers?

The fact is that spirituality, in general, is subjective and based upon opinions. I have a lot of subjective opinions that cant be proven or disproven. But you guys think Im some kind of dolt because I dont believe in your subjective opinions.

I will continue to debate with you guys but I have a Christ complex and I believe in Myself. Its futility to think youre going to make Me not believe Im Christ. Although I have learned to doubt and be skeptical of God, thanks to the Atheists.

You guys reject all My proposed evidence and you guys continue to debase Me because of it.

Either way, I respect all of you and your beliefs, I just wish it was reciprocal,

End of rant.

~PEACE~
 
Nevaeh420

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Beefbisquit said:
Predestination and determinism are different in more ways than similar.

Destiny means someone is pulling strings, e.g. god. Determinism just means that events in the universe cause other events in the universe to happen.

So, no the only thing missing isn't 'god'. The entire way events would manifest into reality would be completely different.

There might be 'facts' about your life, but the vague and silly ways you connect the bible to it means nothing.

If you were a legit savior and were offering humanity something useful, why wouldn't everyone welcome you? The problem is, you offer humanity nothing other than some delusional stories and internet ramblings.

You are sick, not a savior and everyone but you can see that.
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You have some strong opinions.

I like the fact that you believe yourself; everyone should believe what they say.

You have to be true to yourself, and you do that Beef, even though I dont agree with everything you say.

~PEACE~
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Nevaeh420 said:
Kpmarine, I like you buddy; you seem like a straight shooter,

You gave Me that rebuttal MONTHS AGO. You havent even been blogging in the "Spirituality, Sexuality, and Philosophy" section of RIU for a long time now. You should join us more often.

Are you an Atheist also?

Atheists may never see My Truth and My "logic". I would appeal more to a people that are looking for the ("Second Coming" of) Christ. To some Atheists, Im just the "crazy dude" with "mental disorders" and whatever you Atheists may believe about Me. And I may be a little crazy and have some mental issues but doesnt everyone? Whos right about EVERYTHING 100% of the time? Who knows all the spiritual answers?

The fact is that spirituality, in general, is subjective and based upon opinions. I have a lot of subjective opinions that cant be proven or disproven. But you guys think Im some kind of dolt because I dont believe in your subjective opinions.

I will continue to debate with you guys but I have a Christ complex and I believe in Myself. Its futility to think youre going to make Me not believe Im Christ. Although I have learned to doubt and be skeptical of God, thanks to the Atheists.

You guys reject all My proposed evidence and you guys continue to debase Me because of it.

Either way, I respect all of you and your beliefs, I just wish it was reciprocal,

End of rant.

~PEACE~
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What I really can't understand is how you can doubt the existence of god, but not that you're Christ. It doesn't make sense.

If god doesn't exist, then Jesus wasn't the son of god and none of the stories in the bible happened. If they didn't happen, what does it even matter that your life supposedly parallels the bible?
 
Nevaeh420

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Keep in mind Beef, the Biblical Jesus had the Pharisees; I, George Manuel Oliveira, have the Atheists.

Beefbisquit said:
What I really can't understand is how you can doubt the existence of god, but not that you're Christ. It doesn't make sense.
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Do you really need a God in order to believe real Person? If there is a God, God lives in Me. If there is no God, a god lives in Me. We are all gods.

Christ just means the Anointed One. Im Anointed for My discourse and My prophecies and My Life. Anointed is kind of a vague term, so Im sure it can apply to Me. Im just a Person with with an "anointed" story and Life.

Dont believe Im Christ if you honestly dont believe it. Believe Im a real Person that has spoken the Truth to the best of My ability. As an Atheist, you can believe that Im a real Person, and its a fact that I have said what I have said.

Believe what you want, but let Me believe in Myself. Im a real Person and I cant take back what I have said. Consider it entertainment at the least, something to read, a Person claiming to be Christ with alleged evidence.

If god doesn't exist, then Jesus wasn't the son of god and none of the stories in the bible happened. If they didn't happen, what does it even matter that your life supposedly parallels the bible?
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As an Agnostic, I dont know if God exists or not. I dont claim to know if Jesus existed or not, but I do claim not to believe the miracles in the Bible; and therefor I deem the Biblical Jesus as a fallacious myth because of the miracles and logical fallacies attributed to Jesus. But for all I know, there could have been a real Jesus that was a bad ass teacher and preached rebelion and did good deeds; whether he was the Son of God or not, thats subjective.

If My Life parallels the Bible, it wouldnt matter much to some people, like the Atheists and unbelievers, but for the person seeking Christ, it could be a revolitionary eye opener.

I could be proof, to some people, that their belief in Jesus or the Second Coming wasnt in vain and that the Christian religion is based upon a true story and not all fake. Do you know what would happen if EVERY mature Christian actually read about Me? There would be a peaceful revolution and all of My prophecies would be fulfilled very quickly... PARADISE!

But Im taking to mostly Atheists and the Atheists despise anything Christian, like Christ.

EDIT-To the Christians, the Bible is the holy scriptures, the most sacred text ever. If all the Christians found out about Me, My dreams would come true and I would make everyones dreams come true. It would be utter felicity.

~PEACE~
 
tyler.durden

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^^ A lot of what you write is entertaining, I've never seen anything quite like it. It is surprising to me that someone could be as delusional as you and still function as well as you seem to do. While I'm sure some of us non-believers find your nuttiness amusing, I would have to bet that it would be the christians that would hate you the most. They take this shit pretty seriously, and I think they wouldn't appreciate some bat-shit dolt posing as their revered master. Maybe that's why we don't see many christians here respond to your ramblings...
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Nevaeh420 said:
Keep in mind Beef, the Biblical Jesus had the Pharisees; I, George Manuel Oliveira, have the Atheists.



Do you really need a God in order to believe real Person? If there is a God, God lives in Me. If there is no God, a god lives in Me. We are all gods.

Christ just means the Anointed One. Im Anointed for My discourse and My prophecies and My Life. Anointed is kind of a vague term, so Im sure it can apply to Me. Im just a Person with with an "anointed" story and Life.

Dont believe Im Christ if you honestly dont believe it. Believe Im a real Person that has spoken the Truth to the best of My ability. As an Atheist, you can believe that Im a real Person, and its a fact that I have said what I have said.

Believe what you want, but let Me believe in Myself. Im a real Person and I cant take back what I have said. Consider it entertainment at the least, something to read, a Person claiming to be Christ with alleged evidence.



As an Agnostic, I dont know if God exists or not. I dont claim to know if Jesus existed or not, but I do claim not to believe the miracles in the Bible; and therefor I deem the Biblical Jesus as a fallacious myth because of the miracles and logical fallacies attributed to Jesus. But for all I know, there could have been a real Jesus that was a bad ass teacher and preached rebelion and did good deeds; whether he was the Son of God or not, thats subjective.

If My Life parallels the Bible, it wouldnt matter much to some people, like the Atheists and unbelievers, but for the person seeking Christ, it could be a revolitionary eye opener.

I could be proof, to some people, that their belief in Jesus or the Second Coming wasnt in vain and that the Christian religion is based upon a true story and not all fake. Do you know what would happen if EVERY mature Christian actually read about Me? There would be a peaceful revolution and all of My prophecies would be fulfilled very quickly... PARADISE!

But Im taking to mostly Atheists and the Atheists despise anything Christian, like Christ.

EDIT-To the Christians, the Bible is the holy scriptures, the most sacred text ever. If all the Christians found out about Me, My dreams would come true and I would make everyones dreams come true. It would be utter felicity.

~PEACE~
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If I go outside and do a raindance and it happens to rain, that could be proof to some people that raindances work. (They don't)

Do you see the problem there? You'd be fallaciously convincing people that you're something you're not. The supposed 'parallels' between your life and the bible aren't even parallel! Come on Georgie, I know there's some smarts clankin' around in the head of yours. Walking on water =/= catching Quahogs.

You're trying waaaaayyyyyyyy too hard.

You might as well say something like this;

My name is George, and George starts with G. Giraffe stats with G, therefore I am a Giraffe. Please refer to me as George, the Giraffe King from now on.

^--- is the quality of the parallels you are presenting us as 'evidence'.

How can you possibly believe a) that anyone could possibly fathom what you've presented as quality evidence, b) that anyone could possibly take you seriously?
 
Nevaeh420

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Beefbisquit said:
If I go outside and do a raindance and it happens to rain, that could be proof to some people that raindances work. (They don't)
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Raindances only work if youre Native American or in one of those kind of tribes. Thats why they do them, its because they work ALL THE TIME!

Lmao, haha, just kidding.

Do you see the problem there? You'd be fallaciously convincing people that you're something you're not. The supposed 'parallels' between your life and the bible aren't even parallel! Come on Georgie, I know there's some smarts clankin' around in the head of yours. Walking on water =/= catching Quahogs.
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Im not trying to convince anyone of anything. I say, "believe the facts and follow your intuition and conscience, where ever that leads you." If people believe Me, good, they should believe in the facts about Me because they are true. Im not forcing anyone to believe anything. Im simply positing what I believe.

Its not like Im trying to start a cult or anything. I could care less who believes Me or not. Although, I would like to be the dead King of the future Kingdom; but while Im alive, I dont want a following. But if people believe Me, good, I could use the witnesses; if people dont believe Im Christ, so be it, Im not trying to force anyone to believe anything they dont want to believe. Im still going to say what I believe because I believe it to be true.

No one can walk on water, not even the alleged Jesus. But its still a fact that I used to walk on the ocean floor, catching quahogs. A "parallel" in My honest opinion.

You're trying waaaaayyyyyyyy too hard.
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Its manifest that Im doing something wrong, because no one believes Me. Its all good because Im not looking to be worshipped, rather, Im looking to be respected.

You might as well say something like this;

My name is George, and George starts with G. Giraffe stats with G, therefore I am a Giraffe. Please refer to me as George, the Giraffe King from now on.

^--- is the quality of the parallels you are presenting us as 'evidence'.
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Not really, My evidence is much more justifiable. Regardless if you see all the paralells or none of them, I really did those things in My Life and it really says those quotes in the Bible. I might never be able to PROVE that I fulfilled any Bible stories, but its PROOF to Me. Apparently, its a subjective claim Im making and its My word verses yours.

How can you possibly believe a) that anyone could possibly fathom what you've presented as quality evidence, b) that anyone could possibly take you seriously?
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I never said its "quality" evidence, I simply said its evidence, and it is evidence for something. But to some Christians, Im sure it WOULD be QUALITY EVIDENCE.

No one has to take anything I say seriously. No one has to read anything I say. Anyone on RIU has the option to block or ignore Me.

Im just going to continue to fight My case, and be honest with Myself. Its your opinion to believe anything about Me. I cant change peoples opinions about Me; I can only say what I believe.

~PEACE~
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Nevaeh420 said:
Raindances only work if youre Native American or in one of those kind of tribes. Thats why they do them, its because they work ALL THE TIME!

Lmao, haha, just kidding.



Im not trying to convince anyone of anything. I say, "believe the facts and follow your intuition and conscience, where ever that leads you." If people believe Me, good, they should believe in the facts about Me because they are true. Im not forcing anyone to believe anything. Im simply positing what I believe.

Its not like Im trying to start a cult or anything. I could care less who believes Me or not. Although, I would like to be the dead King of the future Kingdom; but while Im alive, I dont want a following. But if people believe Me, good, I could use the witnesses; if people dont believe Im Christ, so be it, Im not trying to force anyone to believe anything they dont want to believe. Im still going to say what I believe because I believe it to be true.

No one can walk on water, not even the alleged Jesus. But its still a fact that I used to walk on the ocean floor, catching quahogs. A "parallel" in My honest opinion.



Its manifest that Im doing something wrong, because no one believes Me. Its all good because Im not looking to be worshipped, rather, Im looking to be respected.



Not really, My evidence is much more justifiable. Regardless if you see all the paralells or none of them, I really did those things in My Life and it really says those quotes in the Bible. I might never be able to PROVE that I fulfilled any Bible stories, but its PROOF to Me. Apparently, its a subjective claim Im making and its My word verses yours.



I never said its "quality" evidence, I simply said its evidence, and it is evidence for something. But to some Christians, Im sure it WOULD be QUALITY EVIDENCE.

No one has to take anything I say seriously. No one has to read anything I say. Anyone on RIU has the option to block or ignore Me.

Im just going to continue to fight My case, and be honest with Myself. Its your opinion to believe anything about Me. I cant change peoples opinions about Me; I can only say what I believe.

~PEACE~
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Jesus did stuff with water, I did stuff with water, I am Jesus.

Makes sense.
 
Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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Beefbisquit said:
Jesus did stuff with water, I did stuff with water,
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What have you done with water that paralells to Jesus? Wash your balls? Lol.

Flyboard

[Youtube]LHL16av4C9k[/youtube]

I am Jesus.
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Blow The Trumpet In Zion

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I always knew YOU were Jesus, you havent been fooling anyone. We have all been playing along with YOU, Jesus. Now we can all worship the Divine... Lmao, haha. As Tyler has said, "there is no sarcastic button".

I like you whether youre Jesus or Beef, your a good guy in My book; and now Im serious. Im glad I talk to you, Beef.

Makes sense.
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If it makes sense to you, thats all that matters. Its not what I believe that makes YOU special, its what YOU believe that makes YOU special.

~PEACE~
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Nevaeh420 said:
What have you done with water that paralells to Jesus? Wash your balls? Lol.

Flyboard

[Youtube]LHL16av4C9k[/Youtube]



Blow The Trumpet In Zion

[youtube]PcpexpefVzE[/youtube]

I always knew YOU were Jesus, you havent been fooling anyone. We have all been playing along with YOU, Jesus. Now we can all worship the Divine... Lmao, haha. As Tyler has said, "there is no sarcastic button".

I like you whether youre Jesus or Beef, your a good guy in My book; and now Im serious. Im glad I talk to you, Beef.



If it makes sense to you, thats all that matters. Its not what I believe that makes YOU special, its what YOU believe that makes YOU special.

~PEACE~
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I used to own a pool, and I go to a beach every summer.

Also, I quahog every year. I wait until low tide though, and use a pitch fork with a mesh net sewn into it. And of course a rubber innertube with an onion bag attached to hold the quahogs. lol
 
Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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Beefbisquit said:
I used to own a pool, and I go to a beach every summer.

Also, I quahog every year. I wait until low tide though, and use a pitch fork with a mesh net sewn into it. And of course a rubber innertube with an onion bag attached to hold the quahogs. lol
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All hail, the Great and mighty Jesus has spoken, and he uses "pitch fork with a mesh net sewn into it. And of course a rubber innertube with an onion bag attached to hold the quahogs. lol" to catch his quahogs.

What a revelation from the Wonderful Savior King that has blessed us with his presence.

All hail, the Beef Jesus King Lord.

All bow now to the Beefy Almighty Divine Jesus. And take heed, he has spoken.

(I like to play too. Haha, lmao!)

~PEACE~
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Nevaeh420 said:
All hail, the Great and mighty Jesus has spoken, and he uses "pitch fork with a mesh net sewn into it. And of course a rubber innertube with an onion bag attached to hold the quahogs. lol" to catch his quahogs.

What a revelation from the Wonderful Savior King that has blessed us with his presence.

All hail, the Beef Jesus King Lord.

All bow now to the Beefy Almighty Divine Jesus. And take heed, he has spoken.

(I like to play too. Haha, lmao!)

~PEACE~
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If your stories are "Christ worthy", so are mine.

When I was 15, I went skinny dipping with a ministers daughter.... she had huge titties. I'm almost positive the bible says something about huge tits... lol

I am Jesus.
 
Nevaeh420

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Beefbisquit said:
If your stories are "Christ worthy", so are mine.
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What are your "Christ worthy" stories?

Maybe you should start a new thread. Or do you want Me to start a thread for you? In your thread, you can explain all of your reasons and deductions about why you believe you are Jesus or Christ, or whatever you believe.

When I was 15, I went skinny dipping with a ministers daughter.... she had huge titties. I'm almost positive the bible says something about huge tits... lol
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Sweet, pics or it didnt happen; as Zaehet Stife told Me.

Seriously, I believe you. That excellent, did you get laid?

The Bible doesnt say anything about "huge tits"; if it did, it would say "big breasted", or something like that.

I am Jesus.
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You can be "Jesus" and I can be "Christ"; together we can be "Jesus Christ", lmao.

~PEACE~
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Ok, let's see;

Well, I was born and so was Jesus; so there's one parallel. (There were also at least 3 wise people, e.g. Dr's are nurses, there as I was born!)

I have a father and mother, so does Jesus; so there's another parallel.

I used to own a pool and used to float on rafts, and Jesus walked on water; another parallel.

I'm a Chef in training and often serve fish, and Jesus fed people with fish; yet another parallel.

Jesus prayed in a garden, and so did I when I was younger; another parallel!

One time we were supposed to get a nasty winter storm and I was all like 'Aw man, I wish this storm would fuck off', and it did, and Jesus cleared a storm once too; Wowzas, yet another parallel.

Jesus was in a parade, and so was I; This is just getting weird now, eh? So many parallels!

Jesus had a trial, and I've been to court too! Hold your friggin' hats people, that's just one more prophetic parallel I've fulfilled! :D


It's official I'm Jesus.
 
Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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Beefbisquit said:
Ok, let's see;

Well, I was born and so was Jesus; so there's one parallel. (There were also at least 3 wise people, e.g. Dr's are nurses, there as I was born!)

I have a father and mother, so does Jesus; so there's another parallel.

I used to own a pool and used to float on rafts, and Jesus walked on water; another parallel.

I'm a Chef in training and often serve fish, and Jesus fed people with fish; yet another parallel.

Jesus prayed in a garden, and so did I when I was younger; another parallel!

One time we were supposed to get a nasty winter storm and I was all like 'Aw man, I wish this storm would fuck off', and it did, and Jesus cleared a storm once too; Wowzas, yet another parallel.

Jesus was in a parade, and so was I; This is just getting weird now, eh? So many parallels!

Jesus had a trial, and I've been to court too! Hold your friggin' hats people, that's just one more prophetic parallel I've fulfilled! :D


It's official I'm Jesus.
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We should crown you, Jesus, if what you say is indeed true.

[Youtube]1zj_8h22Fv4[/youtube]

Long live Jesus!

Its a miracle!

Seiously Beef, you know the truth.

Lol, haha.

~PEACE~
 
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