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Doer

Doer

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NoDrama said:
What does an MBA have to do with management?
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MBA = Master of Business Administration

It is the charts and graphs and statistics that we consult with the bones, entrails and the phases of the moon, to decide when to hire and fire.

Yeah and like the Generals in "War Pig" Black Sabbath, we just do all that for fun. :)

Mostly the MBA is Case Study, and what went right, what went wrong. And you have to turn in original work.....a Case Study, quite often.
 
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NoDrama

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Doer said:
MBA = Master of Business Administration

It is the charts and graphs and statistics that we consult with the bones, entrails and the phases of the moon, to decide when to hire and fire.

Yeah and like the Generals in "War Pig" Black Sabbath, we just do all that for fun. :)

Mostly the MBA is Case Study, and what went right, what went wrong. And you have to turn in original work.....a Case Study, quite often.
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londonfog said:
dude are you serious...One of the main courses in obtaining an MBA would be operations management.
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I was asking schuluyaar, not you two.

Do ya really think I don't know what MBA stands for Doer? Really? I have a degree in Finance.
 
jahbrudda

jahbrudda

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Doer said:
So, what are you trying to say, brudda?

Just say it. No skill to management, that you know of.
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My asserting managers are not skilled tradesman, in no way implies managers have no skill.
But I do dispute your reasoning that managers are tradesman.
 
Doer

Doer

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jahbrudda said:
My asserting managers are not skilled tradesman, in no way implies managers have no skill.
But I do dispute your reasoning that managers are tradesman.
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No. You are slipping in the sophistry.

Go back and look. You will find you are arguing about nothing. Not one said we are always in the trades, so it is a trade. But, the trades have managers.

If I had not a trade background, being out there in the tech, on my on, with the customers breathing on me, I would have no cred to be a technical manager.

Do you think there are plumber managers that have never dug the ditch and never plumbed?

So, you really are doing a Marx thing. Management against the Trades. Where can we possibly get managers, that the Trades workers, will take the lest bit serous?

From the Trades.

So, there you have it. There is no such thing as "manager." in general. For plug and play managers, we need experience in the trade.

Ask yourselves this. Can you imagine someone fresh out of college, with a BA in Business, managing anything, day one?

Oh hell no.Managing is a people service job, with trade savvy.

I managed a furniture store, after years of sales. I manage tech workers after being a tech worker for years.

And like the furniture store, I got one tech person to manage, at first. Then 2 more and then 5 more. More responsibility. because I can actual do this. OK as tech worker, cracker jack as a tech manager.

Now I have small teams all over the world, some people I never see once. I hire them in India, say, then after a few years, they resign.

Tradesmen will only be managed by like tradesmen. That is a fact.

If I decide to uproot and work in a big plant nursery, they may desperately need a manager, but it won't be me. I will start from the bottom like I did in tech, in 1984. Then I can manage a team.

I began Tech after a year of Trade school, with $18K /year and after 6 weeks of more training in the trade, then I got a company car.

Good. I had ridden my poor Datsun B210, out from under me by then.
 
jahbrudda

jahbrudda

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Doer said:
No. You are slipping in the sophsitry.

Go back and look. You will find you are arguing about nothing. Not one said we are always in the trades, so it is a trade.
If I had not trade background in being out there in the tech, on my on, with the customers breathing on me, I would have no cred to be a techical manager.

Do you think there are plumber managers that never plumbed?

So, you really are doing a Marx thing. Management against the Trades. Where do get managers, that the Trade with take the lest bit serous? From the Trade.

So, there you have it. There is no such thing as "manager." in general. For plug and play managers, we need experience in the trade.

Ask yourselves this. Can you imagine someone fresh out of college, with a BA in Business, managing anything, day one?

Oh hell no. I managed a furniture store, after years of sales. I manage tech workers after being a tech worker for years.

And like the furniture store, I got one tech person to manage, at first. Then 2 more and then 5 more. More responsibility. becuse I can actual do this. OK as tech worker, cracker jack as a tech manager.

Now I have small teams all over the world, some people I never see once. I hire them in India, say, then after a few years, they resign.

Tradmens will only be managed by like tradesmen. That is a fact.

If I decide to uproot and work in a big plant nursery, they may desperately need a manager, but I not me. I will start from the bottom like I did in tech, in 1984. $18K /year after 6 weeks of more training in the trade, then I got a company car.

Good. I had ridden my poor Datsun B10, out from under me by then.
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I'll have to put this on pause, I have a meeting to attend.

Peace.
 
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NoDrama

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Doer said:
I had ridden my poor Datsun B10, out from under me by then.
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You can't kill those cars. The 1200 is a classic design.

1972 Datsun 1200 street legal battery powered car does the 1/4 mile in 10.2 seconds. White Zombie. 0-60MPH in 1.6 seconds half the time of the fastest Lamborghini made.

[video=youtube;369h-SEBXd8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=369h-SEBXd8[/video]
 
londonfog

londonfog

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NoDrama said:
TOM is a different thing than OM.
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this course enables students to develop the skills and concepts needed to ensure the ongoing contribution of a firm's operations to its competitive position. It helps them to understand the complex processes underlying the development and manufacture of products as well as the creation and delivery of services. Topics encompass:

  • Process analysis
  • Cross-functional and cross-firm integration
  • Product development
  • Information technology
  • Technology and operations strategy



how so
 
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NoDrama

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londonfog said:
this course enables students to develop the skills and concepts needed to ensure the ongoing contribution of a firm's operations to its competitive position. It helps them to understand the complex processes underlying the development and manufacture of products as well as the creation and delivery of services. Topics encompass:

  • Process analysis
  • Cross-functional and cross-firm integration
  • Product development
  • Information technology
  • Technology and operations strategy



how so
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Ops Management is more about inventory management, supply and demand, manufacturing and services. TOM is the management of software, tech items, IT, OPERATING systems and processes; stuff like that, not concerned with the reorder point of 500 boxes to make a pizza joint run.

TOM is a complete field all by itself, you can get a Doctorate in TOM.

You could use Ops Managemnent stuff to help you with your laundry business, but TOM would be nearly useless to you .
 
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