Any ideas?

[Rev. Chuck]

Im getting growth but I cant get rid of the sags....might they need more nutes. Thought over watering might be the problem so I let it get good and dry and its not perking up much at all after watering. Root system appears to be good. It has been coming along so nicely I dont want to lose it.

 

[SnaFuu]

did you amend your soil for better drainage?

definitely not needing more nutes. the droopiness is from lack of oxygen. period. could be caused by being rootbound as well, but i would not guess that by the size of it.

 

[kinddiesel]

repot it into a grow bag. add perlite 50/50 and it will be very hard to over water . if impossible its way over watered . look at this site. http://www.growweedeasy.com/marijuana-symptoms

 

[SnapsProvolone]

Any standing water in the catch tray?

 

[Rev. Chuck]

I mixed Fox Farms with what I thought was a good amount of perlite definitely no where near 50/50 . It is in a 2 gallon pot and up until recently had been growing quickly and pretty happily. No standing water in catch tray at all. I water outside the box and switch trays till there is no runoff before I put it back in. I wait until it is super light to water. I had noticed roots starting to come out the bottom drain holes recently though but I thought I might be ok staying with a #2 pot throughout flowering. I did notice it feeling a bit compacted when I checked how dry it was today.

 

[Rev. Chuck]

side note I did flush it about two weeks ago and it looked great for a bit then this started..this started at the bottom leaves and worked its way up..I will pick up a 3 gallon pot tomorrow and try that...

 

[Rev. Chuck]

Alright morning update after the night cycle...they have perked up a bit...the only thing I did different was turn the exhaust fan off overnight....could I possibly have to many air changes an hr? Or at least when the lights are not on..I could increase the intake size..

 

[SnaFuu]

No it's nothing about air. Must have been thirsty.. how dry do you let it get?? lol

Looks a lot better now, but could probably still use a transplant.

 

[Bugeye]

Over-watering and under-watering both produce a curved leaf structure. The under-watered curved leaf structure tends to hang limply with stems down. This is what your first set of pictures looked like to me. The easy way to know for sure is to lift your pots. Heavy and you are over-watered, light and you are under-watered. Soil compaction can also produce a similar look.

I suspect that you let your soil get too dry which makes the soil hard to re-wet. The soil will also shrink away from the pot so on the next watering, most of the water runs straight down the side of the pot and out the bottom. So you plant will dry out very very quickly again if you are in this cycle. Make sure to bottom water so the soil can really soak up the water and expand in the pot again. Good luck!

 

[Milovan]

To avoid water running down the side of the pot and out of the bottom I
water a little at a time beginning at the center of the pot where the stalk is and outwards
towards the sides. Taking my time, I do this watering a little at a time to allow the soil to soak up
the water through out the entire soil till just a bit runs out the bottom. This way
I get more of a complete watering. In your case by looking at the size of the stalk you
could very well be root bound and this will cause the droopiness even after you water.
Your plant is most likely root bound and needs a transplant to a bigger pot.
You could oxygenate your water before giving it to the plant and see if that helps rid
the droopiness. Good luck and with a transplant you should see the plant perk up to normal
or better I believe. I have this exact same issue with one of my plants so I am getting ready
to transplant it.
If you do transplant then the same amount of perlite you used last time should be fine
but it can't hurt to add some more and don't forget to oxygenate your water very well just prior to
watering your new transplant. Then you should see your plant reaching to the sky right there after.
I've seen this a few times before, corrected it correctly and it worked very well.

 

[Rev. Chuck]

I will be able to transplant later tonight when I get home. How would I oxygenate the water...air stone? I'm am unfortunately not going to be able to swing that at the moment. I let the soil get pretty dry..the soil had not separated from the sides of the pot though. I have been trying to heed the don't drown your plant warnings. It had decent weight but it is very possible I didn't account for the weight of the new growth.

 

[Rev. Chuck]

Transplanted and it went well. he looks great.....sigh

 

[SnapsProvolone]

Transplanted and it went well. he looks great.....sigh

Hopefully a she and not a he.

 

[Rev. Chuck]

eh............

 

[SnapsProvolone]

eh............

Its a boy.

 

[Rev. Chuck]

yep...boyoyoy...thanks all for the advice though it brought that bastard back long enough for me to kill it