Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

Mad Hamish

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You know what, scratch that. I'm a complete noob at this and I don't want to pester you and bogg down the thread with a bunch of elementary questions. Let me do a little research first to get the basics down, and them maybe I'll have some more pointed questions for you.

I'm smoking on some nice Dream Lotus right now so it took me a minute to have this epiphany.:joint:
How are you enjoying your Bodhi gear StOw? You also find it all to be super creative doob? And how are the flavours on your phenos? Potency?! SMOKE REPORT TIME! Know you are a busy man but I have been curious as to how you like them since you popped the beans.
 

Javadog

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Stow, As to a good spore source, I might use Sporeworks.

I would think starting from a small block of sawdust spawn
(colonized sawdust intended to be used to expand into new substrates)
from Fungi Perfecti might be perfect for you.

I wish that I was not one-foot-in-grave like I am these days, or I would
just mail you a pint of colonized grains.

Hope springs eternal, and I am working with a headhunter now as well.

JD
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Stow, As to a good spore source, I might use Sporeworks.

I would think starting from a small block of sawdust spawn
(colonized sawdust intended to be used to expand into new substrates)
from Fungi Perfecti might be perfect for you.

I wish that I was not one-foot-in-grave like I am these days, or I would
just mail you a pint of colonized grains.

Hope springs eternal, and I am working with a headhunter now as well.

JD
Fungiperfecti is legit! I get 'soil' spores from there ;)

I'm going to attempt a bonsai transplant and reveg of my SSDD...whenever she finally finishes. I want to know what you greenthumbs think about leaving 2 little popcorns on stem. Is that enough?
 

oregongrowpros

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Oregon are those "yield pro" brand pots? If so be very careful if you need to move them. Lift slowly. They tear along the stitching. Welcome to the party.
Yes they are, and I have not had any problems with them.

I'm getting close to switch to flower and researching flower teas now, any suggestions anyone?

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Javadog

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GandalfdaGreen

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Yes they are, and I have not had any problems with them.

I'm getting close to switch to flower and researching flower teas now, any suggestions anyone?

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I swear by the all mighty all purpose tea throughout. Keep it simple and customize your tea if a need arises. Fun stuff. I love the smell of teas.
 

Javadog

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Mine go from smelling like actual tea (for some odd reason), to orangey, to poopy.

When it goes too poopy, I throw the Lactos in, switching from compost to lactos tea,
and I use the result after my pump-waterfall becomes much stronger.

LOL, after the lactos get working, I actually hear the pump speed up and get
more efficient.

JD
 

Steelheader3430

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Here's the rev'a all purpose tea for 1 gallon.

1 tablespoon kelp meal
1 teaspoon high-nitrogen bird/bat guano
1 tablespoon all-purpose dry organic nutrient
1 tablespoon all-natural molasses
BUBBLE FOR 24 HOURS


And then


¼ cup liquid Big Bloom by Fox Farm (or something with similar N-P-K ratios)
1 teaspoon liquid fish fertilizer
½ cup fresh, healthy living compost, or earthworm castings
10 drops CaMg+ by General Organics, or something comparable with no EDTA logos on the label
and no added iron.
BUBBLE FOR 24 ADDITIONAL HOURS

where is trousers?
 

st0wandgrow

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Are you serious? A week ago I was talking about lighting the 911 Turbo and Boxster S on fire. There is no bogging this thread down.
Ha! If you knew all of the questions swimming around in my melon right now you might think differently.

How are you enjoying your Bodhi gear StOw? You also find it all to be super creative doob? And how are the flavours on your phenos? Potency?! SMOKE REPORT TIME! Know you are a busy man but I have been curious as to how you like them since you popped the beans.
Very nice!! This is one of the frostier strains I've ever grown. The smoke is fantastic as well. Very thought provoking stuff. The type of strain that makes me want to fire up some tunes and be productive. I germinated 8, and got 2 females ... which is par for the course for me lately. #3 was the more squat, dense nugget girl. #7 was the lankier, bigger yielding blueberry smelling variety. A touch leafier, and a little more airy buds. You can really see the Blue Dream influence on this one. Keep in mind these plants were abused. I had to top them coming out of veg to take clones because there was no side branching to clone from. Plus they were kept in a spare bedroom that has major light leaks because we had a frozen pipe/flood insurance claim so there were adjusters and contractors all up in my flower room for a month straight. All things considered they turned out great. I'm going to have a tough time eliminating one of them. I'm growing them out again from clone before deciding...

Stow, As to a good spore source, I might use Sporeworks.

I would think starting from a small block of sawdust spawn
(colonized sawdust intended to be used to expand into new substrates)
from Fungi Perfecti might be perfect for you.

I wish that I was not one-foot-in-grave like I am these days, or I would
just mail you a pint of colonized grains.

Hope springs eternal, and I am working with a headhunter now as well.

JD
Thanks for the info! I will order them from there.

Good luck on the job search!

This is the product that I would recommend:
http://www.fungi.com/product-detail/product/the-shiitake-mushroom-patch.html

Or just stop by booth at the Farmer's Market. :0)

JD
Thanks again

I swear by the all mighty all purpose tea throughout. Keep it simple and customize your tea if a need arises. Fun stuff. I love the smell of teas.
vvvvvv Like the one steelheader posted below? vvvvvv

Here's the rev'a all purpose tea for 1 gallon.

1 tablespoon kelp meal
1 teaspoon high-nitrogen bird/bat guano
1 tablespoon all-purpose dry organic nutrient
1 tablespoon all-natural molasses
BUBBLE FOR 24 HOURS


And then


¼ cup liquid Big Bloom by Fox Farm (or something with similar N-P-K ratios)
1 teaspoon liquid fish fertilizer
½ cup fresh, healthy living compost, or earthworm castings
10 drops CaMg+ by General Organics, or something comparable with no EDTA logos on the label
and no added iron.
BUBBLE FOR 24 ADDITIONAL HOURS

where is trousers?

I've got all of the ingredients for this except the guano. I might just give this a whirl for shits and giggles.

What would I substitute (if anything) for the bat/bird poo?
 

GandalfdaGreen

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I've seen that before. I swear by it. That's all you need.

Those new to organics can use that tea with just FF OF and HF 50-50 with a ton of ewcs and some aeration. You can use that very effectively from the third week on.
 

Steelheader3430

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Here are some great Rev teas.

1. Use this tea from the very beginning of flowering up to 4-5 weeks.

1 tbsp of organic molasses
20 drops of General Organics CalMag+
1 tbsp of all organic all purpose fertilizer 5-5-5 or close to that as possible
1 tbsp of Kelp Meal
1 tsp of High N bat guano 12-8-2 ish
1 tsp of High P bat guano 0-5-0 or 1-10-0
1 tsp of liquid fish fertilizer 5-1-1 or 3-3-.3 or close
1/4 cup of FF Big Bloom

Bubble 24 hours then add 1/2-1 cup of fresh compost of EWC. Bubble for another 24 hours. This is for a one gallon jug. Pure water. You can bubble this as long as you want. I would not go over a week. This is taken from the Revs TLO book. Dilute 1:4 or 1:3.

2. Here is a finishing tea:

1 cup EWC or fresh compost
1/4 cup FF Big Bloom
1 tsp of kelp meal
1 tsp of organic molasses

Bubble for 24-48 hours. The Rev suggest diluting the teas. I dilute mine anywhere from 1 part tea to 4 parts pure water. If they are big enough and can handle max nutes then I go 1:3.

3. Here is a great high power vegetative growth tea:

1 tbsp of organic molasses
1 tbsp of kelp meal
1 tbsp of alfalfa meal
1 tbsp of dry all purpose organic fertilizer
2 tsp of liquid fish fertilizer
2 tsp of high N bat guano
1 tsp of dry soluable kelp or seaweed

Bubble for 24 hours. Add 1 cup of EWC or fresh compost. 1/4 cup of steer/cow manure or compost. Bubble for another 24 hours. Dilute 1:4.

4. Seedling freshly or freshly rooted clone tea:

2 tsp of organic molasses
1 tps of kelp meal
1 tps of liquid fish fertilizer
1 tsp of alfalfa meal
1/2 -1 cup of EWC or compost
1 tsn of dry soluble kelp or liquid seaweed
10 drops of General Organics CaMag+

Bubble for 24 hours. Dilute 1:4

There you have it. All your tea needs. Ask any questions you would like. Enjoy. BTW....spread the mix out as a top dressing on your plants. Use a 1 gallon paint strainer as a holder.

Back to the fundamentals.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Back to the fundamentals.
Awesome post Steelheader. I have found that dilution depends on stage. Once they are in week 4 of veg you can go 1:1. You can get your ph perfect with dilution also depending upon what your water's ph is of course. Teas are so damn easy. I know not everyone cares about ph. I know I shouldn't but my dilution just makes it perfect going in. I'm a freak. I honor the "to each their own"method.
 

Steelheader3430

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^Yeah its awesome....Its yours Gand! I finally got the green light from my wife to get a new light. Just a budget apollo from ebay but I'll feel pretty fucking cool for a little bit. I can't wait to get that vert hps. But gotta wait for payday.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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^Yeah its awesome....Its yours Gand! I finally got the green light from my wife to get a new light. Just a budget apollo from ebay but I'll feel pretty fucking cool for a little bit. I can't wait to get that vert hps. But gotta wait for payday.
Steel....I run two Apollos. I have no complaints at all man. None. I have pulled some sick Starlet Kush from under an Apollo. My best pheno of SK loved it under there. Sun Maiden did great too. My point is that you'll be happy.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Awesome post Steelheader. I have found that dilution depends on stage. Once they are in week 4 of veg you can go 1:1. You can get your ph perfect with dilution also depending upon what your water's ph is of course. Teas are so damn easy. I know not everyone cares about ph. I know I shouldn't but my dilution just makes it perfect going in. I'm a freak. I honor the "to each their own"method.
I love it all too! It took me almost a year to get my veg and bloom teas right. Better light n safe. Teas can be brutal when busy though. One thing I noticed is PH getting way low with teas. My Protekt seems to combat this...plus the liming agents in my soil. Anyone her (excluding hy) use SSTs religiously?
 

Mad Hamish

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Very nice!! This is one of the frostier strains I've ever grown. The smoke is fantastic as well. Very thought provoking stuff. The type of strain that makes me want to fire up some tunes and be productive. I germinated 8, and got 2 females ... which is par for the course for me lately. #3 was the more squat, dense nugget girl. #7 was the lankier, bigger yielding blueberry smelling variety. A touch leafier, and a little more airy buds. You can really see the Blue Dream influence on this one. Keep in mind these plants were abused. I had to top them coming out of veg to take clones because there was no side branching to clone from. Plus they were kept in a spare bedroom that has major light leaks because we had a frozen pipe/flood insurance claim so there were adjusters and contractors all up in my flower room for a month straight. All things considered they turned out great. I'm going to have a tough time eliminating one of them. I'm growing them out again from clone before deciding...
I know what you mean! With the Dream Beaver I only now finally decided on my keeper. Ran it three times now. It is still Milla

Bro, go get your hands on one of the remaining Appy satty crosses if you want to combat all the beanstalks you have been getting. I know for sure these all have super strong side branching and only a single topping is needed to get a huge bush:
Dream Beaver, Appalachian Thunderfuck, The Fuzz...

Awesome post Steelheader. I have found that dilution depends on stage. Once they are in week 4 of veg you can go 1:1. You can get your ph perfect with dilution also depending upon what your water's ph is of course. Teas are so damn easy. I know not everyone cares about ph. I know I shouldn't but my dilution just makes it perfect going in. I'm a freak. I honor the "to each their own"method.
My pH used to end a bit high, you can bring it down with fish emulsion :) Careful though, it drops it pretty fast.

I love it all too! It took me almost a year to get my veg and bloom teas right. Better light n safe. Teas can be brutal when busy though. One thing I noticed is PH getting way low with teas. My Protekt seems to combat this...plus the liming agents in my soil. Anyone her (excluding hy) use SSTs religiously?
Funny I always end up with a high pH again. Most of my teas have a touch of aloe, wonder if this makes a difference...

This last outdoor run I didn't give a shit about pH. I just ignored it. Everything worked out just fine. Soils were cooked for long enough, just a tiny touch of lime, and then I simply trusted the soil biology to take over from me. Few All Purpose Teas, with the last 6 weeks ACT only. They are definitely not hungry, still waiting for the fade, doesn't look like it will happen though. They are kicking and super strong, flowering much faster than I am used to also.

Red, I got into the SST for a while but I noticed plants seem to metabolize especially Nitrogen a lot faster. It definitely increased my plants' feeding needs. On my hungrier Beavers I actually couldn't keep up with the feeds organically so I stopped the SST. I think it is a load of shit. Plants recovered nicely after I stopped. So no thanks not for me, I think adding hormones and enzymes is a tad unnatural and is going towards a hydro way of thinking. Talk about forcing a plant. Nothing forces an organism and each individual cell within it harder and more violently than a hormone. Enzymes are a close second.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Red, I got into the SST for a while but I noticed plants seem to metabolize especially Nitrogen a lot faster. It definitely increased my plants' feeding needs. On my hungrier Beavers I actually couldn't keep up with the feeds organically so I stopped the SST. I think it is a load of shit. Plants recovered nicely after I stopped. So no thanks not for me, I think adding hormones and enzymes is a tad unnatural and is going towards a hydro way of thinking. Talk about forcing a plant. Nothing forces an organism and each individual cell within it harder and more violently than a hormone. Enzymes are a close second.
That would explain my early 6 week fade with rich soil and top dressing. They do get bigger and prettier after an SST. Maybe top dress some when using SST...or just use less often.

I agree on not watching PH UNLESS you have a tea that's 4-5! This only happens when I use BSM with RO, which isn't often.
 
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