Growing in a highrise apartment building

[flaiks]

First things first, i live in canada, so as a renter, I am somewhat protected from nosey landlords, They must give MINIMUM of 24 hours notice for entering the premises, unless it is an emergency. I am moving into a large(900+sq ft) apartment, in a highrise, The apartment is essentially a concrete cube, so noise will not be an issue, especially since i'll me doing hempys, the only noise will be the 6' fan(which i have a speed controller for). I do already have a 6' MountAir carbon filter, which works quite well, and will be replacing it with a new one when I move in. I am considering by options between doing a 2x4x6 tent in the closet of the spare bedroom, closet is a sliding door, so locking it is not an option, however in my lease agreement it states i only need landlord permission to change the FRONT DOOR lock(s), so I will definitely change the door handle for the spare bedroom to include a lock(i know, super easy to break, but unlikely my landlord would kick the door in to get in there). OR I was going to get a 2'7'x4'9'x7' tent(growlab GL80L) and just put it freestanding in the spare bedroom. Now, the apartment IS all inclusive, so I will be doing 2xarea 51 xgs-190's in the tent to keep electricity costs down, to avoid suspicion, i might be doing 3 of them during flowering, because in off-peak hours the electricity is quite cheap(7c/kw), and that would only cost about $14 in electricity to run in off-peak hours.

My question is, how much sketchier would it be to do it in the spare room vs the closet in the spare room? Of course, when the yearly inspection comes around, i would pack the plants into boxes right at the start of the dark period, seal the boxes super well, put them in the back of my storage room, and dis-assemble the tent and pack it in totes in the closet. It is a ground floor unit, but as i said, money is not entirely a concern so a carbon filter will be going in, a good one at that, and I will supplement ona gel into the storage room for inspection time(and likely wrap smell proof garbage bags around the plants inside the boxes) just in case they decide to look in there. Also, as I said before, only other power usage will be the fan, which is only about 70w at max power(will definitely be running it way under max, way too loud, and way more than enough CFM(~450). Also, do you think the 380/530w of power usage would be suspicious to the property company, note, this is a large coporation that manages about 35-40 building in this city ALONE.

Any thoughts are welcomed and much appreciated.

 

[SnapsProvolone]

<<~ gets his ten foot pole out, sets it down, walks away.

Don't do it imo. If you do use a stealth cabinet grow that actually looks like a normal metal locking cabinet.

 

[flaiks]

<<~ gets his ten foot pole out, sets it down, walks away.

Don't do it imo. If you do use a stealth cabinet grow that actually looks like a normal metal locking cabinet.

I would just like to ask the reasoning behind this conclusion.
Obviously a cabinet would be more ideal, but 1 zip every 3 months is not nearly enough. And any cabinet big enough to matter would cost wayyy too much. Also, i don't have anywhere I could build a suitable sized one. If i could, I would just build a cabinet big enough to house the tent, and put the tent inside the cabinet and lock the cabinet, but finding a 3x5 cabinet is near impossible.

 

[SnapsProvolone]

Odds are just when you get running you will have to tear down due to landlord requiring access, inability to control odors or noise created by your scrubber. Imo, if you want to grow big you should seek other living accommodations. Especially if living in a state where growing is still illegal.

 

[bird mcbride]

Highrise apartment managers in Canada are known to frequent apartments while the tenant(s) aren't home without imforming the tenant or any notice. Most landlords will do this if they "think" something suspicious is going on. I was once a property owner and the RCMP once notified that even though I'm not there and other person(s) are occupying the dwelling I was still responsible for what was happening on my property.

 

[Shaded420]

Highrise apartment managers in Canada are known to frequent apartments while the tenant(s) aren't home without imforming the tenant or any notice. Most landlords will do this if they "think" something suspicious is going on. I was once a property owner and the RCMP once notified that even though I'm not there and other person(s) are occupying the dwelling I was still responsible for what was happening on my property.

RCMP lied to you. Renters are responsible for any illegal activity they partake in their own premises, and the contract the renter signed should state as such.

 

[bird mcbride]

My lock was once broken but the landlords wasn't. I could smell maingy mutt and a few days later I had to debug the place because of dog fleas. I wouldn't treat any dog of mine "like" that. I'd at least debug the poor critter and give it a bath every once in a while. Some of these people are so f*cking rude. But I guess the law in Canada supports this.

 

[bird mcbride]

RCMP lied to you. Renters are responsible for any illegal activity they partake on their own premises, and the contract the renter signed should state as such.

In Canada law isn't a matter of law, it's a matter of court order(s). Usually based on statements that start out with the words,"it is believed".

 

[flaiks]

In Canada law isn't a matter of law, it's a matter of court order(s). Usually based on statements that start out with the words,"it is believed".

Well, i have lots of friends who rent from this company, and they have never once entered without permission, and if they did, my spare bedroom door would a have a lock on it. If the landlord illegally entered my apartment without providing 24 hours notice, and broke into my spare bedroom, it would be quite obvious, and a massive violation of my tenant right, they would certainly face a lawsuit, generally, they dont need the BS so this particular company sticks to the law.

 

[flaiks]

Also, important to note, the building im moving into has 150+ apartments, and the super is generally pretty busy, he doesn't really have time to illegally enter my apartment to snoop around, AND, I work from home, so im here everyday, basically all day.

 

[Shaded420]

In Canada law isn't a matter of law, it's a matter of court order(s). Usually based on statements that start out with the words,"it is believed".

And how do you suppose one goes about getting a court order? Have you put much thought into this?

There are a lot of things the police need to get established in order to get a court order...

Not to mention this is all based off of the assumption that your landlord will have suspicions about you.

 

[flaiks]

And how do you suppose one goes about getting a court order? Have you put much thought into this?

There are a lot of things the police need to get established in order to get a court order...

I dont believe he has, it would be very difficult for the landlord to acquite a court order to enter my apartment without notice, the only time i could see it happening is if a pipe burst in the wall, and he had to come in to check damage, in which case, I would probably be f'd. The likelyhood of this happening is insanely low, and if it did happen, I would be home to notice it and quickly move shit to another place.

 

[flaiks]

Now, since that turned into a debate, i shall ask my question again, would it be better to have the tent in the closet, or the corner of the room, is it going to make that much of a difference in the end ? If they become suspicious they're going to look in the closet anyways, which, likely won't happen, As i stated the walls are concrete and essentially sound proof, the noise made from a fan/carbon filter is going to be non-existent to my neighbour.

 

[Sunbiz1]

I would opt for the closet, as it will be easier to conceal plus the white walls make for great light reflection.

Why do you need a tent in this closet?.

 

[bird mcbride]

There is no law in Canada. It's all a matter of opinion. That's what the giant shredder comes into the local courthouse every month for. They can't take a chance on being held liable for their well conceiled criminal activities.

 

[flaiks]

I would opt for the closet, as it will be easier to conceal plus the white walls make for great light reflection.

Why do you need a tent in this closet?.

Issue of properly ventilating to reduce smell, it is hard to create negative pressure to prevent smell escaping the closet.

 

[Shaded420]

Alright, now that we've established that there is no law in Canada...

Let's move onto business - I vote for closet.

a) you can lock your closet or find a clever way to jam it closed

b) your closet is out of sight

Chances of them going through your closet if a pipe burst is pretty slim.

 

[flaiks]

Alright, now that we've established that there is no law in Canada...

Let's move onto business - I vote for closet.

a) you can lock your closet or find a clever way to jam it closed

b) your closet is out of sight

Chances of them going through your closet if a pipe burst is pretty slim.

I feel your reasoning is quite sound, unfortunately it limits my space, but thats what I get for living in an apartment I guess.
I suppose in the event of an inspection I could also just pile clothes or some boxes in front of the closet, chances of them looking in a closet when doing a yearly inspection is pretty slim(assumption).

Now if I were to not do a tent inside a closet, whats the most effective way of venting and getting rid of smell ?

 

[bird mcbride]

I'd get a big fat fridge with a single door, gut it and do 200-300w cfl grow. Install a couple internal carbon scrubbers with computer fan intake and exhaust to carbon filter.
Put a good padlock on the fridge door.

 

[sunny747]

Here is a similar situation.. I rent. It's a large property of nice walkup properties.. (Not a high rise).. They take good care of the property. I'lll just tell you the moral of the story right now.. "You never know when the landlord may need to enter your property"..

Last week I got a call that the maintenance guys were at my door and they needed to access the property right away because water was leaking from my slab. I was like "FRICK!" All of my tools were scattered everywhere, I had light cascading from my grow box, fans running everywhere, soil all over my sink etc.. It's legal for me to grow where I live, but I doubt my apartment manager would like to know that I am growing... So, I told them I had to calm my dog down and to wait a few minutes.. I quickly stashed everything as best I could and let them in. They were oblivious, but did ask me if I do construction also. I thought that was funny.. I had 50 ft of pvc sitting by my front door that I will use to make a PANDA film tent.. I told them I do sprinkler repair on the side

Here is a thought.. Maybe check Craigs list for free kitchen cabinets or talk to someone who does kitchen remodels and ask them for an old Pantry Cabinet..

Best of luck