The more you know about Obamacare, the more popular it is
- Thread starter UncleBuck
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What a crock of shit....sure, there are some good elements to it BUT the overall approval of Obamacare is in the low 30's %. Let's just see how low it can go after the policies of the next 70 million employer based insurance cancellations hit. Can you say "Republican leaning Senate?"
Abiqua
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Maybe when we can get some "real" #'s on who:
Has paid versus enrolled.
How much of a percentage of enrollment is the 18-34 bracket.
How many individuals had private plans cancelled.
What is the enrollment of small businesses. Are they helping their employees enroll, cutting back hours or booting them from employer healthcare, or none of the above.
How many people are being pushed to Medicare with tax breaks.
On and on. I can't say how the rest of the nation is, but Oregon is a FUCKING disaster, led by a democratic Doctor. Ugg...the Dem/Rep dichotomy is repulsive to say the least, I don't know how anyone could conform to one side or the other, how is that logic?
Healthcare not insurance would be great, especially for people with pre-existing conditions aka the poor, the rest is a waste.
Has paid versus enrolled.
How much of a percentage of enrollment is the 18-34 bracket.
How many individuals had private plans cancelled.
What is the enrollment of small businesses. Are they helping their employees enroll, cutting back hours or booting them from employer healthcare, or none of the above.
How many people are being pushed to Medicare with tax breaks.
On and on. I can't say how the rest of the nation is, but Oregon is a FUCKING disaster, led by a democratic Doctor. Ugg...the Dem/Rep dichotomy is repulsive to say the least, I don't know how anyone could conform to one side or the other, how is that logic?
Healthcare not insurance would be great, especially for people with pre-existing conditions aka the poor, the rest is a waste.
UncleBuck
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in 14 hours your irony will be lost.
UncleBuck
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it's not a crock of shit, it's a scientific poll. sorry it hurts your views of reality, that's kinda what the graph is about though.
speaking of your false view of reality, obamacare approval in general is about 40%, and about 60% of americans want to keep it as is or improve it.
a clear majority of americans want you to shut up and quit your whining about it.
UncleBuck
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rich people have pre existing conditions too.
obamacare is insurance reform and its provisions are wildly popular with americans.
budbro18
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Everyone around me whos signed up has saved a good amount of money so far.
Friend has 2 kids and beat cancer about 10 years ago, $60 a month with 0 deductible. Very reasonable from what ive seen. Same with other friends especially the ones with families.
It definitely needs some changes but remember, alot of last minute fuck ups were added to it to "fix" it when in reality they were to try to tank it.
Friend has 2 kids and beat cancer about 10 years ago, $60 a month with 0 deductible. Very reasonable from what ive seen. Same with other friends especially the ones with families.
It definitely needs some changes but remember, alot of last minute fuck ups were added to it to "fix" it when in reality they were to try to tank it.
UncleBuck
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like you, i am with the almost 50% of americans who want to keep it and improve it. i am not with the 10% of americans who want to keep it as is, nor am i part of the minority of americans who want to get rid of it.
Nutes and Nugs
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The only people that benefit are the worthless.
If they are paying $0.00 they don't have shit.
No house, no car, no English.
Non-productive people who sit at home and watch TV and play video games all day.
This shit has got to stop.
Some people are truly fucked and need it, but the majority are worthless.
If they are paying $0.00 they don't have shit.
No house, no car, no English.
Non-productive people who sit at home and watch TV and play video games all day.
This shit has got to stop.
Some people are truly fucked and need it, but the majority are worthless.
UncleBuck
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so is it the mexicans then? the guatemalans? the chinese? the japanese? other asians or hipsanics? possibly koreans?
please tell us how not speaking english affects the greenness of your money.
Nutes and Nugs
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Not speaking English denies them of jobs and generally being part of the community.
I have no idea how most of them passed the citizen test.
Well, maybe I do. The fuckers in Acorn and other liberals getting kickbacks from lobbyists.
You should get a job at Subway and see where your money goes.
I have no idea how most of them passed the citizen test.
Well, maybe I do. The fuckers in Acorn and other liberals getting kickbacks from lobbyists.
You should get a job at Subway and see where your money goes.
UncleBuck
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if not speaking english denies mexicans of jobs and being part of the community, then why do you complain so much about how they take our jobs?
speaking of subway, why don'y you ask bignbushy (subway employee) and his group mate sirgreenthumb what they think of those 'non english speaking communities'? they are white separatists, and they are on your side here.
ChesusRice
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The Republicans always talk about not a single one of them voted for it. But they fail to mention the 150 amendments they fought to get included in the package and bitch about how large the bill is
budbro18
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My point exactly. They realized there was no way to stop it so they figured lets load it up with as much bullshit we can, claiming constitutional injustices needed to be changed, and hopefully itll be so difficult and annoying that people wont sign up..... and people are still signing up.
I havent seen one single ad or video claiming that someone is paying more for health care after signing up that hasnt been fact checked and proven to be completely wrong. haha Seems like once a week i see a video disproving a Koch ad saying "and this lady is actually paying a few hundred dollars less a month and lower deductibles"
Thats one of the main things ive seen it help. If someone pays a few hundred a month for health care then still has a 5000 dollar deductible than thats not insurance. These are the people who are forced to change their plans because their old one doesnt exist anymore (for good reason) and go kicking and screaming to change them then realize "shit if i get hospitalized i dont have to pay for 2/3 of it out of pocket before my insurance kicks in and helps"
robert 14617
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imho i believe our government has an obligation to fix medicare and medicaid before starting a new program that will ultimately be as fucked up as the rest
I love how your opinions have no basis in reality. From your stated position, you and I are in the same demographic in this category. I think it needs improving. I'm a fan, I can't say I was when it was passed, mostly because how it was passed, but now that it is here, let's go with it.
I think i probably think it needs more improvement than you do.
With respect to non-English speaking persons, I've got no problem with them. I think they need to learn English, but I dont have a problem with Hispanic people. They are hard working, religious, fairly conservative people by and large. And they make really good food.
desert dude
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