abandonconflict
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Nuh-uh....
U.S. right wing extremists more deadly than jihadists
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Dr Kynes
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first you must satisfy the long standing request that you explain your professed ideology and beliefs without using copy/paste bon mottes from Chomp Chomp, or repeating a two word oxymoron as if that settles everything.
explain what you claim to believe in, in your own words, or you shall remain irrelevant.
abandonconflict
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Did you shoot a kid who was buying skittles?
Dr Kynes
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Yuhh huh.
arguing that the romanoffs werent murdered viciously by your glorious comrades (but youre SOOOO not a marxist or a bolshevik) will just be another in your long string of lies, obfuscations and other Chompskyisms
abandonconflict
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Kkkynes is just a paragon of relevance.
Dr Kynes
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another example of the Chomp Chomp school of discussion,
1: declare outrageous lies
2: dont defend outrageous lies, use deflection instead
3: deflect again
4: redirect with a childish "I'm rubber, youre glue" response
5: declare victory
abandonconflict
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Explain libertarian socialism or else you will keep calling me a bolshevik?
Nah, I'm enjoying your company. Did you notice that I handed you a state socialist?
Nah, I'm enjoying your company. Did you notice that I handed you a state socialist?
Canna Sylvan
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Maybe I need to post this because liberals aren't too smart?
About the only thing we have in common is we both agree government doesn't have our best interests at heart and abortion is murder. Besides that, I think it's hilarious, I have more in common with idiot progs.
Dr Kynes
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since all socialism is "State Socialism", you simply accused another of being exactly what you are despite your protests.
i have already identified your ideology sufficiently, as a mashup of Trotsky Socialism and Mao Socialism, the same ill formed ideology espoused by the Zapatistas, but you simply refuse to accept this definition, or counter it with an adequate rebuttal.
you try to hide your ideology behind your endless deflections and Chompskyism, but youre just not very good at it.
abandonconflict
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Zapatista maoism. All socialism is state socialism.
Says the actual marxist.
Says the actual marxist.
abandonconflict
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Please go on about how you are a libertarian and then tell me what kind of government you like.
Dr Kynes
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yep.
the Zapatistas are a blend of Maoism and Trotskyism, and you are a Zapatista sympathizer at the very least
course i know you dont understand this, you deliberately avoid learning about all the different socialist sub-groups so you can continue making up your own definitions as you please.
too bad for you, these groups exist and have well defined doctrines, thus your own doctrines can be carefully deduced by the rare moments when you take an actual position instead of shouting irrelevant slogans or throwing out generalized marxist propaganda pictures.
like the Zapatistas, you claim to support the agrarian vanguard (Maoism), but in fact repeatedly espoused Perpetual Revolution (Trotskyism), which opposes forms of vanguard based socialism.
like the Zapatistas, you claim to be a "socialist" (on the Maoist tip) but in truth you are a Utopian Communist (Trotskyism)
like the Zapatistas, you wish to see the abolition of "The State", but that just doesnt sell in Real Politic, so you lie and deceive to conceal your real agenda.
like the Zapatistas you claim to be "anti-authoritarian" but everywhere the Zapatistas have power, authoritarian control magically appears.
like the Zapatistas, you talk a lot about opposing hierarchies, yet you demand things which can only be imposed from a dominant position in an authoritarian power structure.
so in reality, like the Zapatistas, you are opposed to the current hierarchy and the current "State", but your never-expressed ultimate scheme is to replace the current power structure with one more to your liking, which is to say, Authoritarian Marxism.
but you know very well that nobody except you actually wants to live according to your dictates, so you lie, deceive, and employ Chompskyisms to conceal your real agenda behind a thick concealing fog of Vageuism
Muy Facile
Dr Kynes
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yep. liberties, well defined liberties, defended by a firmly established framework of governance through the Republic, to prevent assholes and bandits from violating the liberties of the people.
all your claims of "anarcho-____________ism" destroy liberty by destroying the social framework established to protect the people and their liberties from the predations of "anarcho-_______ists" like yourself.
in your little fantasy world you are a benevolent dictator, and everyone is subject to your whim, so everybody is nice all the time, and nobody ever has conflicts, but in the real world there are always conflicts to resolve, and your beneficent smile and vague marxist platitudes dont solve shit.
liberty is based upon a social framework of mutually agreed-upon rules.
everybody but you and rob roy can accept that, rob roy doesnt hide his real beliefs behind a fig leaf of sloganeering and jingoism, so he is just a wacky dreamer while you are a devious duplicitous schemer.
Canna Sylvan
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An authoritarian state is no way anarcho-*, *-libertarianism nor especially *communism. How the fuck do you compare that to stateless Rob?
abandonconflict
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Oh look, another long winded diatribe by Kkkynes that nobody will ever read.
Dr Kynes
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AC and Rob Roy are similar in their opposition to "hierarchies", but only one will actually say what he believes, while the other uses vagueism to conceal his agenda.
Rob Roy is not a marxist, but he is a utopian dreamer, like many communists.
AC just uses communist rhetoric to sell his socialist pig in a poke.
Dr Kynes
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ohh look, another unresponsive response from Abandon Intellect which addresses no argument and takes no position.
killemsoftly
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Dr Kynes is very boring. Very boring. I can barely read his 'stuff' without yawning or having my eyes cross. Thank you kynes. I will now go back to sleep.
Stay real.
Stay real.
Nutes and Nugs
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You asked, he told.