@Greengenes707 watching the side by side shows me apache is the leader in led. even to replace my 600 hps it will easy. Heat oh man heat costs allot to cool. So i need to save 2k form my next 4 plants and buy at600. I could run that in summer easy.
I think they are. Cooling is an issue I am now facing this new room more than ever. My old places had high ceilings and weren't as insulated. With my setup now it was designed for led's...with the hps in there it is a struggle and in the true summer months even how I have it now, half/half won't stay cool enough without a dreaded AC. I hate using a bunch of watts to change the temps, up or down, and so with led's I can keep it much more controlled with out an AC or heater in this insulated room. Their operating temps fit well with my setup.
Moab may work well. But its not organic at all. Unless the buds and leaves are completely white when done. The chems will still be there.. I know gg said full organic will be next run. my biggest buds were using a combo of crab meal, fish meal, soft rock phophate, neem meal, kelp meal and rock dust. With compost teas, kelp teas, botanical teas and seed sprout teas. I just used up the last of the dte vegan mix. If that doesn't work out this round. I'm going back to the old regiment ^^^^
Knew you were going to come in with this. Since I resorted to maxsea, which the all purpose has a good amount of urea, I will also use MOAB. True organics is for next round. I have MOAB and this will probably be my last chase to use it and see if I think it does anything. We will see. It's not poison...just synthetically derived.
Can you explain exactly how it is bad for me to use. What about synthetics is actually bad??...both for me as a human smoking it and for my soil...like micro life?
Both are looking really nice in the pics the HPS looks a little fatter but the led looks like its made more colas shooting up overall ?
also the hps looks like a little yellowing on the leaves
but the led looks greener is this just the hps light making it look a little yellow?
or does the hps side have a little bit of heat damage or yellowing on the leaves
great thread to watch
The LED's have more colas...but not as large
Hps has bigger but less.
The fading I just mentioned couple post ago. You probably missed behind all your photos
Just ever so slightly(fading) on the led side. They just needed a little boost a week or so ago.
The hps has been struggling with staying green. I have it back on track now, but they started a little early.
I never really feed them any grow...soil got them pretty far. Then they just burned through all the N at the beginning of flower. So just a week or 2 ago I gave them so grow and they have steadied out. Some of the fans like the one you saw in the pic is a little yellow still but the plants as a whole have pulled back into good health.
LED FTW ha nice bud GG 
