Solar Energy is going to take over. There I said it.
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Canna Sylvan
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How much was consumption total was required to install and the rest of the infrastructure used to produce that panel? So far the total system efficiency for solar is very poor.
Ceepea
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This isn't a 'current' system. It's a new system.
Canna Sylvan
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The panels make themselves in this new system?
Ceepea
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No, but why would you assume this new system has the same efficiency of old systems?
TheSnake
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When these things are made cheap enough, it gives a whole new meaning to "OFF GRID GROW" also, I can foresee anyone invested into power companies, sending assassins to kill the people engineering and inventing this stuff, if they cant be paid off... Just like with gasoline.
Canna Sylvan
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It's not just the panel, the manufacturing process has to be taken into account. That uses resources for mining, processing the raw materials, employees (they use energy too), and transportation during all steps. Unless those requirements have been solved, it doesn't matter how much the panels themselves produce.
It's the same problem when it comes to hybrid vehicles. I'm not going to be convinced unless I see a complete picture, not just the panels.
Canna Sylvan
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Oil companies are currently heavily invested in alternative energy. But I think that's just to fool us so conservatives bring about Water World and gasoline becomes worth more than gold!
http://www.bp.com/en/global/alternative-energy.html
heckler73
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I tracked down the source of this research, I believe (wasn't difficult 
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Low-cost solar energy capture. The market for solar energy has stalled due to the high cost and low efficiency of current technology. Conventional solar cells do not produce power efficiently enough to justify the cost of investment. This project seeks to develop low-cost, thin-film silicon photovoltaics with high efficiency that could be used to realize the full potential of solar energy. Research indicates that there is a potentially lower-cost approach to manufacturing silicon photovoltaics by utilizing layers of thin-film silicon in an enhanced cell design.
http://www.egnc.gov.eg/egnc/research/ongoing-projects/thin-film-silicon-photovoltaics
That's a very interesting design...excuse me while I go preheat the oven
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Low-cost solar energy capture. The market for solar energy has stalled due to the high cost and low efficiency of current technology. Conventional solar cells do not produce power efficiently enough to justify the cost of investment. This project seeks to develop low-cost, thin-film silicon photovoltaics with high efficiency that could be used to realize the full potential of solar energy. Research indicates that there is a potentially lower-cost approach to manufacturing silicon photovoltaics by utilizing layers of thin-film silicon in an enhanced cell design.
http://www.egnc.gov.eg/egnc/research/ongoing-projects/thin-film-silicon-photovoltaics
That's a very interesting design...excuse me while I go preheat the oven
The system in the video uses a dish to concentrate solar light to a small chip which generates electricity and also uses the recycled heat to desalinate water.
the recycled heat is where the unit picks up on efficiency.
heckler that is the right site, but I believe this is the link that applies to the original post.
http://www.egnc.gov.eg/egnc/research/ongoing-projects/energy-reuse-from-concentrator-photovoltaics-for-water-desalination
the recycled heat is where the unit picks up on efficiency.
heckler that is the right site, but I believe this is the link that applies to the original post.
http://www.egnc.gov.eg/egnc/research/ongoing-projects/energy-reuse-from-concentrator-photovoltaics-for-water-desalination
Ceepea
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heckler73
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Yes, that applies to the system as a whole, but I'm interested in the nano-layers
kelly4
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How many satellite dishes will I need to "plow snow" with a truck?
Indeed.
I still wait for the cost of a system to decrease, so that I/ people can justify the expense and/or afford to pay for it without financing or leasing.
Ceepea
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Plow snow? Or people in your Death-plow 3000 equipped with 35" mudders?
Snow plows are Kelly's weapon of choice.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/mass-murder-by-blade-you-vast-idiots.805890/page-19#post-10297888
Doer
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Ummmm.......0.8 is nothing boys,
There are some 20% proofs in the Literature, today, I agree that solar can take over, then. But, it is a long commercial slog to get to consumers and Companies will buy up patents and sit on them.
No law against that. But, this is under the radar now and everybody is for it, even me. An important, well funded breakthrough Company, can actually break through the commercial and lobby-against, mess.
But, leap frog means, home fuel cells will be the competition,
We will get to high-tech house paint that powers a house, before long. But, will the hydro/coal/gas fired, Power Generators just pull an Enron and queer the deal for $$. If they can they will.
There are some 20% proofs in the Literature, today, I agree that solar can take over, then. But, it is a long commercial slog to get to consumers and Companies will buy up patents and sit on them.
No law against that. But, this is under the radar now and everybody is for it, even me. An important, well funded breakthrough Company, can actually break through the commercial and lobby-against, mess.
But, leap frog means, home fuel cells will be the competition,
We will get to high-tech house paint that powers a house, before long. But, will the hydro/coal/gas fired, Power Generators just pull an Enron and queer the deal for $$. If they can they will.