Apache AT600 led vs 1000w HPS Blue Dream Grow

Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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captainmorgan said:
GG,did you ever check to see if there was any noticeable difference in leaf ratio's on the colas between the two sides?
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Yes I have...
The flowers themselves are about the same...
But the led has more major fan leaves. I thing that has to do with the led having more terminal/head colas. And some early thinning could have effected things too.

Also, the secondary/hash leaves on the led are covered in like 2 layers of trichs. Hps is good, but normal good.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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natural co2 via air exchange may be 400 ppms. Its a constant 400ppms. Plus when plants wake up they breathe in 4 times as much from the co2 the plants put out while sleeping. I used to run co2 with a tank and monitor. I never saw much difference vs via air exchange. With the tank. Maybe more trichomes. (hps ). I didn't increase o2 levels at that time either. If I did, the added co2 may have been more beneficial. Outside o2 is 20,000 ppms. Then nitrogen is 450,000 ppms and argon is 800 ppm's. There may be an entourage effect on plants.
 
Greengenes707

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So how come everyone who runs a properly put together room with CO2 doesn't have O2 tanks to compensate that.
The plants are more than fine with the normal o2 levels...
While co2 is a whole difference story. They don't need both to be proportionally increase. Just CO2 does the trick.
 
natro.hydro

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It is not that hard to work it out for math, there is a sticky to a site where you enter the dimensions of your grow and it tells you the flow rate to set your regulator at. That is what I was doing when I had my tank going, trying without this last time to see if that extra 20 bucks a week is worth it.
 
foreverflyhi

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natro.hydro said:
It is not that hard to work it out for math, there is a sticky to a site where you enter the dimensions of your grow and it tells you the flow rate to set your regulator at. That is what I was doing when I had my tank going, trying without this last time to see if that extra 20 bucks a week is worth it.
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Done that before and later found out i was wasting alot of co2 because of small cracks in my room, and other factors, like hood openings.

Patch my room/hoods and purchased a chh4 and never looked back, plus its cool to see constant update in your enviroment.
Having a proper reading will def save you alot of money
 
Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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foreverflyhi said:
Yo GG did u ever mention whats on the next line up? And also curious if you ever grow from seed?
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Dream again if I can get some clones taken soon enough. I might try to find the source again...but I would rather do my own that has been in my methods for a run. If not might get the blackberry I did the run before. So strong it would be worth it if I can't do the big yielding dream. And it's way more unique than dream. But dream is the plan for now.

I have grown from bean outdoors for 10 years. Indoors just a few runs...and only as an apprentice when I was younger. I personally think that beans yield more than a clone of it would. But consistency is a key for things around here. Can't show up with a few phenos...Only one and a unit or more of it.

I just popped a few Blue Frost(platinum cookies x blueberry desiel). I will grow it out outdoors but then take some cuts and do some indoors.

I'm thinking 4x8 of one strain... then a light worth of mixed genetics for some variety.
 
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Greengenes707 said:
Dream again if I can get some clones taken soon enough. I might try to find the source again...but I would rather do my own that has been in my methods for a run. If not might get the blackberry I did the run before. So strong it would be worth it if I can't do the big yielding dream. And it's way more unique than dream. But dream is the plan for now.

I have grown from bean outdoors for 10 years. Indoors just a few runs...and only as an apprentice when I was younger. I personally think that beans yield more than a clone of it would. But consistency is a key for things around here. Can't show up with a few phenos...Only one and a unit or more of it.

I just popped a few Blue Frost(platinum cookies x blueberry desiel). I will grow it out outdoors but then take some cuts and do some indoors.

I'm thinking 4x8 of one strain... then a light worth of mixed genetics for some variety.
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I too can't wait to try a special select of others to grow, and also dial in my 2 current strains after a few runs. Both endeavours will be exciting. Crazy how some people grow the same strain forever!

Blue frost sounds beautiful lol

How does your outdoor quality compare to your indoor?
 
kmog33

kmog33

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skunkd0c said:
this at600 light is pretty amazing it does not even seem that expensive anymore
look at the size of the thing it makes the man look small

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Damn 742 watts. I thought it ran at 600. They need to make and at 400 or something haha.

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Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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skunkd0c said:
this at600 light is pretty amazing it does not even seem that expensive anymore
look at the size of the thing it makes the man look small

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Ya, it's a beast of a unit. It's 4 at200 in one. And with a great price break. Basically 500$/at200. Ya it's in one unit, as opposed to 4 individuals...some say that is good, others say they like mobility. But a big enough unit and I don't see the problem myself, hps does just fine with a big ass hood.
kmog33 said:
Damn 742 watts. I thought it ran at 600. They need to make and at 400 or something haha.
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Nope. it's more than 600w. Mine is running 685w and 2.9amps on 240v.
Which is why and how it can compete with hps.
 
kmog33

kmog33

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Greengenes707 said:
Ya, it's a beast of a unit.

Nope. it's more than 600w. Mine is running 685w and 2.9amps on 240v.
Which is why and how it can compete with hps.
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Thats sweet i had just been under the impression it was 600 so i was surprised at the video. Does it actually weigh 60 pounds?

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Jbone77

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Greengenes707 said:
Ya, it's a beast of a unit. It's 4 at200 in one. And with a great price break. Basically 500$/at200. Ya it's in one unit, as opposed to 4 individuals...some say that is good, others say they like mobility. But a big enough unit and I don't see the problem myself, hps does just fine with a big ass hood.

Nope. it's more than 600w. Mine is running 685w and 2.9amps on 240v.
Which is why and how it can compete with hps.
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give me a single, powerful light anyday, I quit adjusting multiple lights a decade ago, just sayin
 
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