run off ph question

sensimilla86

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I got a new ph meter about a week ago so I know this is reading correct anyways I am in soil. Im feeding the nutes at 6.4 / 6.5. today I feed and decided to check out the run off being I never was able to with just the liquid match the color stuff and that's your ph. my run off is at 7.5.

is this a problem? and if it is how do I go about fixing it.
 

growone

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that does sound high, probably higher than you would like
even a new meter isn't a sure thing, reference solutions would verify your reading
taking it as a true reading, i'd be surprised that your dirt could do that much ph upping
a heavy lime dose comes to mind, not sure if it would account for this though
 

sensimilla86

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that does sound high, probably higher than you would like
even a new meter isn't a sure thing, reference solutions would verify your reading
taking it as a true reading, i'd be surprised that your dirt could do that much ph upping
a heavy lime dose comes to mind, not sure if it would account for this though
Ya I used a control and it was right on but will lime b ok with all my beneficial bacteria
 

sensimilla86

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that does sound high, probably higher than you would like
even a new meter isn't a sure thing, reference solutions would verify your reading
taking it as a true reading, i'd be surprised that your dirt could do that much ph upping
a heavy lime dose comes to mind, not sure if it would account for this though
The meter came with a control
Do I need to mix lime evenly over through the dirt if so would that entail repotting
 

growone

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whoops, you don't want more lime, that's going to raise your ph even higher
i was thinking you have too much lime, garden type lime may not be the best stuff
dolomite is a gentle calcium buffer, but that may not help at this point
 

Silky Shagsalot

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I got a new ph meter about a week ago so I know this is reading correct anyways I am in soil. Im feeding the nutes at 6.4 / 6.5. today I feed and decided to check out the run off being I never was able to with just the liquid match the color stuff and that's your ph. my run off is at 7.5.is this a problem? and if it is how do I go about fixing it.
just cause your meter is new, doesn't necessarily mean it can't use calibration. i wouldn't worry about the run-off. it's coming out, not going in. the high number should be expected, you're washing out nutes from the last feed, no prob.
 

kinddiesel

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never once check my soil ph ever . no reason to . but its ok to check the nutrient in the soil so you know how much more you can push the plants. if that's in your level of growing . I mix 15 to 40 gallons of water daily . and I hate those pens . for a few reasons . still using those ph drops here. only way to go my opinion . unless your big balling like some friends mixes the nutrient ph proper and filter the water . like a car wash click a button and hooked to a hose. pree mixes
 

bird dog

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I got a new ph meter about a week ago so I know this is reading correct anyways I am in soil. Im feeding the nutes at 6.4 / 6.5. today I feed and decided to check out the run off being I never was able to with just the liquid match the color stuff and that's your ph. my run off is at 7.5.

is this a problem? and if it is how do I go about fixing it.
Lot's of questions, but that is high.
Did you ph the water before you mixed the nutes?
Did you ph the solution after mixing?
What are you mixing?

nutes will change you ph too!
Peace
 

tyke1973

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Do the plants look good.

If so don't get caught up in numbers too much,since i have stopped ph'ing my grow's have never produced has much.

I can prob help more if ya give me a ec your feeding and the ec run off,far more important than the ph,
The ec or ppm's will tell you if the plants are up takeing just water or water with nutes in
 

tyke1973

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Honest dude go on how they look,i have not used a ph testing pen in about 4 year no need nutrients have come on a long way since i first started most will take the nutes to where you want em any how.

sell the ph pen and get a blue lab trunchen far more important,you really need to know what the ec is feed wise and run of but i only do this say twice through a full grow cycle.

I go on what the plnats look like and the stem if the stem is fat then there doing well,if your plants look ok then they prob are no need to start messing around with them when they look ok.

try it dude do away with the ph pen and go on how they look.But that is if your water is good we have good water in yorkshire so,i feel no need to ph,go with advanced nutes they are pretty much ph perfect ,i have found canna to be too
 

ghgou812

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Im with kinddiesel.... Im still using the drops... heard about pens going bad or being off.... never heard of the solution going bad. Just harder to use if you happen to be color blind. ;-)

As everyone has said, if your girl looks good, don't mess with it.

Good luck and keep us posted.
 

sensimilla86

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Do the plants look good.

If so don't get caught up in numbers too much,since i have stopped ph'ing my grow's have never produced has much.

I can prob help more if ya give me a ec your feeding and the ec run off,far more important than the ph,
The ec or ppm's will tell you if the plants are up takeing just water or water with nutes in
Ya they deff look healthy I have never really been able to test it so I did got that reading and bugged so I flushed heavily and am gonna hit with a new tea batch satirday
 

sensimilla86

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Im with kinddiesel.... Im still using the drops... heard about pens going bad or being off.... never heard of the solution going bad. Just harder to use if you happen to be color blind. ;-)

As everyone has said, if your girl looks good, don't mess with it.

Good luck and keep us posted.
The nuets I use are organic and are all super dark so what then I'm sick of taken stabs in the dark I have a brown nuet mix so if it should b yellow what color do those two make or what ever I'm shottin for u no
 

sensimilla86

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Im with kinddiesel.... Im still using the drops... heard about pens going bad or being off.... never heard of the solution going bad. Just harder to use if you happen to be color blind. ;-)

As everyone has said, if your girl looks good, don't mess with it.

Good luck and keep us posted.
All are really thick black nuets so I feel like I'm guessing to much with the color thing when I'm not starting out clear
 

sensimilla86

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Honest dude go on how they look,i have not used a ph testing pen in about 4 year no need nutrients have come on a long way since i first started most will take the nutes to where you want em any how.

sell the ph pen and get a blue lab trunchen far more important,you really need to know what the ec is feed wise and run of but i only do this say twice through a full grow cycle.

I go on what the plnats look like and the stem if the stem is fat then there doing well,if your plants look ok then they prob are no need to start messing around with them when they look ok.

try it dude do away with the ph pen and go on how they look.But that is if your water is good we have good water in yorkshire so,i feel no need to ph,go with advanced nutes they are pretty much ph perfect ,i have found canna to be too
I wish I'd of red that b for I flushed I think the problem was in before I started with the nuets on these guys I don't use to ro I let my tap water sit a few days and was just using that thinking it should have been an OK pH but I tested my buckets that had been sitting out and came back at pH of 7.9 so that's about what the root zone is anyways ya the stems are really bulky and green so I guess until I c a sign of difficiencies i won't fuck around
 
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sensimilla86

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Im with kinddiesel.... Im still using the drops... heard about pens going bad or being off.... never heard of the solution going bad. Just harder to use if you happen to be color blind. ;-)

As everyone has said, if your girl looks good, don't mess with it.

Good luck and keep us posted.
But ya all in they all look good and healthy and the organic nuets are usually right where I want em with out touch in it up or dwn so I guess unless they start to look shitty then tjeuy r fine
 

sensimilla86

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Lot's of questions, but that is high.
Did you ph the water before you mixed the nutes?
Did you ph the solution after mixing?
What are you mixing?

nutes will change you ph too!
Peace
Ya I have always phed but I'm running Humboldt organic / natural full line the intermediate one and have never really had to adjust up or down but am using compost teas with the nuets to feed and it seems most common response is if they look good leave em and they r all nice and healthy
 

sensimilla86

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Im with kinddiesel.... Im still using the drops... heard about pens going bad or being off.... never heard of the solution going bad. Just harder to use if you happen to be color blind. ;-)

As everyone has said, if your girl looks good, don't mess with it.

Good luck and keep us posted.
Here are some shots only about 4 wks in 2 wks to mainline
 

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sensimilla86

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Honest dude go on how they look,i have not used a ph testing pen in about 4 year no need nutrients have come on a long way since i first started most will take the nutes to where you want em any how.

sell the ph pen and get a blue lab trunchen far more important,you really need to know what the ec is feed wise and run of but i only do this say twice through a full grow cycle.

I go on what the plnats look like and the stem if the stem is fat then there doing well,if your plants look ok then they prob are no need to start messing around with them when they look ok.

try it dude do away with the ph pen and go on how they look.But that is if your water is good we have good water in yorkshire so,i feel no need to ph,go with advanced nutes they are pretty much ph perfect ,i have found canna to be too
Here are a few shots and there are some more aboveIMG_20140515_225151.jpgIMG_20140515_225342.jpg
 
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