the oregon-idaho border and minimum wage

[Harrekin]

i'll give you a hint, since i feel bad for you. but it goes against your conservative dogma, so you will probably not see anything, as you are so very well programmed to do.

hint: walmart is not the job creator

I'll give you a hint, "don't make your customers go to you, go to your customers".

Basic tenet of business.

 

[UncleBuck]

I'll give you a hint, "don't make your customers go to you, go to your customers".

Basic tenet of business.

then why didn't walmart build near the population center of ontario, and go all the way to the very outskirt of town instead?

 

[MuyLocoNC]

i'll give you a hint, since i feel bad for you. but it goes against your conservative dogma, so you will probably not see anything, as you are so very well programmed to do.

hint: walmart is not the job creator

It's cute that he thinks we believe he actually knows the answer and acts condescending, when the reality is we know no business would trust him to mop the floors, let alone decide where to place their locations.

By the way, I didn't see an answer. Scared, now that you know your "answer" will be confirmed with their corporate headquarters?

 

[UncleBuck]

It's cute that he thinks we believe he actually knows the answer and acts condescending, when the reality is we know no business would trust him to mop the floors, let alone decide where to place their locations.

By the way, I didn't see an answer. Scared, now that you know your "answer" will be confirmed with their corporate headquarters?

what in the holy fuck are you blathering about?

 

[MuyLocoNC]

I've got a question. Nationally, how many Walmarts are located on the side of the state border that has the lower minimum wage? You know, the opposite of the one example you cherry picked?

 

[MuyLocoNC]

what in the holy fuck are you blathering about?

I'm sorry, was that your answer?

 

[UncleBuck]

I've got a question. Nationally, how many Walmarts are located on the side of the state border that has the lower minimum wage? You know, the opposite of the one example you cherry picked?

i'm not really concerned, you can go chase down an answer to that one and get back to me if you'd like to change the topic of the thread.

hell, you could even start an entire thread about it.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

i'm not really concerned, you can go chase down an answer to that one and get back to me if you'd like to change the topic of the thread.

hell, you could even start an entire thread about it.

Nah, I'll sit back and watch you drop your dick in the dirt on YOUR question.

I'll check back in a few hours and there still won't be an answer. Because, obviously, you have no fucking clue why one Walmart location out of 4,233 is located on the same side of the state border where almost ALL THE OTHER BUSINESSES in that area decided to locate.

 

[UncleBuck]

Nah, I'll sit back and watch you drop your dick in the dirt on YOUR question.

I'll check back in a few hours and there still won't be an answer. Because, obviously, you have no fucking clue why one Walmart location out of 4,233 is located on the same side of the state border where almost ALL THE OTHER BUSINESSES in that area decided to locate.

i already gave you a hint, but you are too blind to see it because it goes against your conservative dogma.

 

[desert dude]

if higher minimum wage is so hostile, onerous, and burdensome to these godlike job creators on whom we all depend for sustenance, then why is all the commerce and retail located on the oregon side (ontario) rather than the idaho side?

the min wage is 20% higher over here than in idaho, yet there is nothing on the idaho side of the border. there is a walmart, a home depot, many other big box stores, and a whole bunch of national chains here in ontario.

what gives, my right wing, freedom loving, job creating, captains of industry? how do you explain this fallacy of free market economics?

The Idaho (ID) state sales tax rate is currently 6.0%.

The Oregon state sales tax is zero.

Consumers don't like to pay taxes to support slimy politicians.

 

[UncleBuck]

The Idaho (ID) state sales tax rate is currently 6.0%.

The Oregon state sales tax is zero.

Consumers don't like to pay taxes to support slimy politicians.

so the jobs show up where the aggregate of people prefer to spend money?

are you making a positive argument for aggregate demand as the main driver of job creation? and are you saying that higher minimum wage laws are negligible when people have money to spend and create demand?



fucking communist.

 

[Harrekin]

then why didn't walmart build near the population center of ontario, and go all the way to the very outskirt of town instead?

Cost/benefit analysis probably, detailed studies of demographics and consumer research.

You know, "business shit" ?

 

[desert dude]

so the jobs show up where the aggregate of people prefer to spend money?

are you making a positive argument for aggregate demand as the main driver of job creation? and are you saying that higher minimum wage laws are negligible when people have money to spend and create demand?



fucking communist.

Nope. I am saying that low taxes stimulate the economy, just as your example proves. Thanks for the verification!

As a non-tax paying leach, you know that taxes are onerous.

 

[UncleBuck]

Nope. I am saying that low taxes stimulate the economy, just as your example proves.

low taxes on who?

 

[desert dude]

low taxes on who?

Everybody. We are all consumers. We are all (well, mostly) producers.

 

[UncleBuck]

Everybody. We are all consumers. We are all (well, mostly) producers.

so if we just cut taxes on walmart, they'd open up stores where there was no demand for their products?

 

[Harrekin]

so if we just cut taxes on walmart, they'd open up stores where there was no demand for their products?

I know you think you're being witty and such but you're clearly just displaying ignorance.

I hope your Overlord in Law teaches you proper business, otherwise he's wasting his time building that company up for you.

 

[bu$hleaguer]

then why didn't walmart build near the population center of ontario, and go all the way to the very outskirt of town instead?

Perhaps there were incentives thrown at them. Many states offer tax breaks and benefits to have these businesses in their states. Also big box stores pay big rent due to
Large square footage. Less rent in outskirts than in cities. This can make a big dent in the overhead- if pay rates are higher but rent is lower it could be a savings.

 

[Harrekin]

Perhaps there were incentives thrown at them. Many states offer tax breaks and benefits to have these businesses in their states. Also big box stores pay big rent due to
Large square footage. Less rent in outskirts than in cities. This can make a big dent in the overhead- if pay rates are higher but rent is lower it could be a savings.

Also the 0% sales tax in Oregon makes things 6% cheaper for consumers than in Idaho, meaningless to the company directly, but lower prices equal more sales, especially combined with a better location.

Buck is just looking for a false equivalency, and doesn't realise theres a whole process companies go through when choosing a location.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

As predicted.