the oregon-idaho border and minimum wage

[killemsoftly]

Also the 0% sales tax in Oregon makes things 6% cheaper for consumers than in Idaho, meaningless to the company directly, but lower prices equal more sales, especially combined with a better location.
Buck is just looking for a false equivalency, and doesn't realise theres a whole process companies go through when choosing a location.

Listen to Harrekin. Corps bring in economic geographers as consultants (ah Ricardo, you lovely bastard) and do a 'buttload' of multi-variable analysis. It is a process. One variable could be up, one down. In essence, it is cost-benefit analysis. The delivered price is set by the market but they need to bob n weave on their end to make it work. Labour is but one part of this. If other costs are lower then it is acceptable to pay more on employees. It all comes down to magnitude(s).

 

[NoDrama]

if higher minimum wage is so hostile, onerous, and burdensome to these godlike job creators on whom we all depend for sustenance, then why is all the commerce and retail located on the oregon side (ontario) rather than the idaho side?

the min wage is 20% higher over here than in idaho, yet there is nothing on the idaho side of the border. there is a walmart, a home depot, many other big box stores, and a whole bunch of national chains here in ontario.

what gives, my right wing, freedom loving, job creating, captains of industry? how do you explain this fallacy of free market economics?

I'm guessing its because of the ocean and the ability to trade with other nations by sea. Not much of that happening in Idaho.

FWIW Modern sprawl is not necessarily the marker of a well adjusted society.

Of course some will believe that success is measured by the amount of commercial businesses in an area. These are the same people that believe the more money they have, the happier they will become.

 

[NoDrama]

Best weed i have ever had? Idaho grown near Kellogg.

 

[nitro harley]

if higher minimum wage is so hostile, onerous, and burdensome to these godlike job creators on whom we all depend for sustenance, then why is all the commerce and retail located on the oregon side (ontario) rather than the idaho side?

the min wage is 20% higher over here than in idaho, yet there is nothing on the idaho side of the border. there is a walmart, a home depot, many other big box stores, and a whole bunch of national chains here in ontario.

what gives, my right wing, freedom loving, job creating, captains of industry? how do you explain this fallacy of free market economics?

Buck..

You are such a fucking idiot. Have you ever created a job other than having one of your so called friends clean up your shit off the floor?

 

[NoDrama]

Buck..

You are such a fucking idiot. Have you ever created a job other than having one of your so called friends clean up your shit off the floor?

Buck doesn't understand things like economics, tax incentives, or general math, sooo.......

 

[UncleBuck]

Also the 0% sales tax in Oregon makes things 6% cheaper for consumers than in Idaho, meaningless to the company directly, but lower prices equal more sales

i see what you're saying.

the jobs get created by people who want to go buy stuff, not by some magical "job creator" myth.

thanks, that was kinda the whole point of this thread. that, and minimum wage is really not as big of a deal as the conservative dogma seems to dictate nowadays.

 

[UncleBuck]

I'm guessing its because of the ocean and the ability to trade with other nations by sea. Not much of that happening in Idaho.

FWIW Modern sprawl is not necessarily the marker of a well adjusted society.

Of course some will believe that success is measured by the amount of commercial businesses in an area. These are the same people that believe the more money they have, the happier they will become.

idaho is literally 800 feet away from the walmart.

 

[UncleBuck]

Buck..

You are such a fucking idiot.

lovely and eloquent answer, my old, racist, friend with the uber-delicate heterosexuality that may not even be questioned.

 

[londonfog]

Have to agree with jobs being create by people buying or supporting business. Without customers or clients you have no job creation. You can open the business but they MUST come.

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

uncle buck I just figured it out other than all the other obvious reasons I said... there is a kmart on the other side of idaho ave.. with interstATE 84 intersecting idaho ave people getting off the highway would stop at the k mart before wal mart. god stop being such a fucktard

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

and wal-mart hates fags so there is no way they would set up shop in "fruitland"

 

[NoDrama]

idaho is literally 800 feet away from the walmart.

By "the" do you mean the only wal-mart that exists? I'm pretty sure they got more than one.

 

[UncleBuck]

By "the" do you mean the only wal-mart that exists? I'm pretty sure they got more than one.

notice how this thread is about the oregon-idaho border, champ?

yes, it is THE only walmart on the oregon-idaho border.

 

[desert dude]

so if we just cut taxes on walmart, they'd open up stores where there was no demand for their products?

No.

If on one side of the street sales taxes make the EXACT SAME PRODUCT 6% more expensive than they are on the other side of the street where the EXACT SAME PRODUCT is 6% cheaper because no sales tax is charged, consumers buy the EXACT SAME PRODUCT where there is no sales tax. This process is called rational self interest and is innate to most humans.

Oregon has no sales tax. Idaho has a 6% sales tax. Idaho consumers who live on the Oregon border shop in Oregon for that very simple reason, as do Washington consumers and California consumers similarly situated. It really is pretty simple, Marie.

I am surprised that a long time tax evader such as yourself pretends to not understand.

 

[UncleBuck]

No.

thanks for admitting that tax breaks for the wealthy do no create jobs. you might catch some flack back over on american renaissance for that though.

 

[NoDrama]

notice how this thread is about the oregon-idaho border, champ?

yes, it is THE only walmart on the oregon-idaho border.

I don't have any experience with the Idaho- Oregon border, but plenty with the Idaho-Washington border. So I Surrender to your superior knowledge of the vast and important Oregon-Idaho Border and the Wal-Mart locations within.

 

[NoDrama]

thanks for admitting that tax breaks for the wealthy do no create jobs. you might catch some flack back over on american renaissance for that though.

Do you think tax breaks for the poor would create jobs?

 

[desert dude]

thanks for admitting that tax breaks for the wealthy do no create jobs. you might catch some flack back over on american renaissance for that though.

Apparently a 6% tax cut for poor people convinces them to shop in Oregon, and that creates jobs in Oregon just as your stupid thread demonstrates. You will undoubtedly be cheered over at HuffPo for your insufferable stupidity.

 

[UncleBuck]

Apparently a 6% tax cut for poor people convinces them to shop in Oregon, and that creates jobs in Oregon just as your stupid thread demonstrates. You will undoubtedly be cheered over at HuffPo for your insufferable stupidity.

only poor people are exempt from sales tax in oregon?

 

[desert dude]

only poor people are exempt from sales tax in oregon?

Herr Derr, sputter, slurp.