thesecretgrower510
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plz help me identify the problem before it effects my other parts of my plant
cant tell if my plant has a Calcium Deficiency or Magnesium Deficiency can u help?
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keysareme
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First off, take a deep breath. Now do it again, and again. Ok good.
Now, talk to your plant, tell it you love it and want to see it grow big and healthy, just the way it wants.
Yes, I see some spot marks on a few fan leaves. Those may represent either of the two nutrients you mentioned. It is a early stage of whatever it is, and since you see it now, you can take affirmative action to improve the plants condition from here.
A few questions:
What is your medium composed of?
What type of water are you using?
What is your food choice for the plant? (Nutrients, super soil, etc?)
How much, and what type of lighting, what are your temps and humidity.
Now, talk to your plant, tell it you love it and want to see it grow big and healthy, just the way it wants.
Yes, I see some spot marks on a few fan leaves. Those may represent either of the two nutrients you mentioned. It is a early stage of whatever it is, and since you see it now, you can take affirmative action to improve the plants condition from here.
A few questions:
What is your medium composed of?
What type of water are you using?
What is your food choice for the plant? (Nutrients, super soil, etc?)
How much, and what type of lighting, what are your temps and humidity.
thesecretgrower510
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thesecretgrower510
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to be honest this is my very first grow and im using multiple cfl lights with 5000k output around 250 watts all together and just used miracle gro moister control and havent picked up any fertilizer yet but want to know what would be best
thesecretgrower510
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and the temps and humidity are perfect
thesecretgrower510
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i was thinking of picking up some cal- mag
keysareme
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Very nice. Thank you for providing all the info so we can move forwards in improving your grow.
Congratulations on your first medical run bro!
It's good that you have not picked up any nutrients or fertilizers yet. That is a huge win right there so far
Your 250 watts of cfl @ the 5000k spectrum, as long as that is total true output of 250 watts, your plant will have suitable light to develop healthily.
I'm not a fan of miracle grow products, so I might want to hear from someone who has personal experience with them, and in specific their moisture control that you are using.
What I can say, is, if you have the bag or container that the soil came in, look at what is printed on the packaging, look for any information about what the soil mix contains, and what it says that it will do/provide for your plants.
From there, you can make a wise choice about what to do next.
thesecretgrower510
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the bag is gone sadly but next time im go with a 20-20-20 per fertilized soil but would the cal-mag fix the problem
BenFranklin
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Some people do great with miracle grow...
Most others... like myself, wish that the CEO of MG would get hung by their nads, preferably with hemp rope.
Most others... like myself, wish that the CEO of MG would get hung by their nads, preferably with hemp rope.
thesecretgrower510
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agreed i heard from my boy that jungle growth is good
thesecretgrower510
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but what should i do to help my plant cal-mag or just fertilizer
keysareme
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If you want to start slow, which I would suggest, grab some dolomite lime for calcium, and Epsom salt for magnesium. They might be less costly than an actual bottle of plant nutrient, and for the money you spend you would be getting an immense amount more than if you were to buy a bottled nutrient. And you could also make your own mix this way.
But you can also go and buy a bottle of any CaMg and see whether than helps your plant. If that's what you want to do.
I would recommend researching good sources of calcium and magnesium for you plant and start with those as opposed to buying a CaMg supplement. If you go the first way, you may very well take care of your plant well enough to where you won't need to continue supplementing with anything throughout its life. Which is the the goal as far as I see, to make it so the plant can grow well on its own.
But you can also go and buy a bottle of any CaMg and see whether than helps your plant. If that's what you want to do.
I would recommend researching good sources of calcium and magnesium for you plant and start with those as opposed to buying a CaMg supplement. If you go the first way, you may very well take care of your plant well enough to where you won't need to continue supplementing with anything throughout its life. Which is the the goal as far as I see, to make it so the plant can grow well on its own.
thesecretgrower510
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thanks man my plant only has two fans leafs like that ive done alot of research on grow weed but i will try the epsom salt and the dolomite lime next grow but around here in pa cal mag is about the same price as epsom salt so cal mag seems like the best bet then
thesecretgrower510
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this is my lil girl
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keysareme
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She is beautiful! Looks very happy overall. Good reasoning on what you feel is most efficient for you to do, I approve bro. Keep us updated on her growth ok?
thesecretgrower510
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will do i topped her a while ago to help increase yields because i heard cfls lights give only a few ounces in yield is that true?
keysareme
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Nice man! Awesome choice to top her. She will love you even more for doing so.
As for "cfl's only yielding a few ounces of medicine", that can be true, and that can also be the biggest wash of non-truth as well.
What determines the yield of a plant are, and not limited to, and I hope more people add to this,
- Genetics
- Root Development/Health
- Good Medium (whether you choose to do hydro, soil based, soil less or a living customized super soil)
- Good Water
- Proper air flow/circulation/extraction and co2 levels
- and yes, quality and amount of light do contribute as well
I know there is a lot more to what helps overall yield, and again I hope more people add to this.
With Cfl's, and I have three cultivations of experience with them, you can yield a QP per plant if you do it all right, I got over 5 ounces off of one of my SourOg girls from a cutting using all cfl (and just a 90w led that was in in the top back right corner of the tent and placed over one plant and only one plant, and it was not the plant that yielded over 5oz, so most all of the light in the tent was cfl.
People might say that yields are going to be low with CFL lighting, because they choose not to enlighten themselves to the actual reality of it all, CFL's while maybe not as high output as a Metal Halide, or High Pressure Sodium, still provide suitable, and possibly even more focused specific spectrum of lighting, than they are presented to. Most people bashing on CFLs just do so cause of what they have heard, read, or had a less than enjoyable experience themselves from, which is most likely due to not doing it in the way the CFLs are meant to used.
When used in the most efficient ways, CFL lights can successfully help a plant grow through its entire life cycle. As long as you have enough true watts for the amount of plants you are cultivating, and you keep the environment that the plant is in relatively within healthy conditions (68-78 degrees f, and 30-70% humidity, I prefer 70f/70% all the way through the plants life, and have experienced improvements in yield from maintaining these conditions.
When using CFL's, make sure that the tops of your plant(s) are receiving the most intensity that they can, which means, lets say you have 5 bulbs to make your 250 watts, 50w bulbs a piece, I would take at least three of them and fix them directly a top your canopy, of course at the appropriate distance from the canopy to keep the temperature and room conditions in range, much like you would any other type of cultivation light. The remaining two I would position in such a way that the emitted light would best reach/cover any part of the plant that is not receiving much light intensity.
Another option is to just fix all your lighting a top the canopy, and eventually invest in some smaller cfl's or the same size, for side lighting. This will help the side and lower shoots to fully develop and flower out. It also depends on plant size, the taller/bigger the plant, the more light/bulbs you will need to cover the area she takes up.
In summary, as long as you have ample intensity of light hitting the tops (at least 150 true watts of output for the first plant, and I like to say add 75-100watts up top for any additional plant after) and a few side lights, or just some sort of light output that reaches where the lights up top don't quite shine as bright, you will be fine.
People have successfully cultivated plants with far fewer watts than you are currently running, so you are good to keep on growing bro. Just know, the more light you add, the more the plant can photosynthesize, and the more the plants develops its shoots and nodes, means the more places for buds to fruit and bloom.
thesecretgrower510
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thanks bro im about too roll a blunt of Afghan and watch a Godzilla bootleg i will keep u updated on my grow thank you for your insight and knowledge as i know it will pay off thank you again and stay high my weed smoking family lol
Jussblaz3420
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Im at day 44 with cfls and im running 264 totoal watts, skunk auto from white label.
