Hey New Growers, Let's try this again?

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hogbud

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As usual u think ur fcking god go smoke another bowl and take ur bipolar medication 5 nut deficiencys what a load a shit u started this thread nice enough then u just come across as a dick head again just cant help ur self as sombody said before true colours allways shine through u make these threads to get heaps of hits and likes u talk about shit that everyone knows and try to make ur self sound more intelligent u say in other thread about reading shit ect then u do what we all do and google it but u just verbal spew out information noone asked for go get a root and a life
I do not think I'm a god, if you actually knew me you'd know I'm actually a very humble guy, I told you what I saw and it is true I have been very rarely wrong but that does not make me a god. You asked, I answered (which was more than your attitude deserved) you chose not to listen, I have no problem with that
 

weedenhanced

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I do not think I'm a god, if you actually knew me you'd know I'm actually a very humble guy, I told you what I saw and it is true I have been very rarely wrong but that does not make me a god. You asked, I answered (which was more than your attitude deserved) you chose not to listen, I have no problem with that
U commented like a smart arse I tryed to have a joke but obviously u have emotional problems and no sence of humour and ur very rarely wrong lol ok (bipolar think ur god)
U say my sick plant has 5 deficiencys what r they? U say that if I fed and grew all my plants together all same strain all from same seed bank that it has nothing to do with the def but enough of u hog I think u could be a cool guy if u had some type of social skills and actualy read what u write u seriously just put down everyone and say ur correct u need medication
 

hogbud

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U commented like a smart arse I tryed to have a joke but obviously u have emotional problems and no sence of humour and ur very rarely wrong lol ok (bipolar think ur god)
U say my sick plant has 5 deficiencys what r they? U say that if I fed and grew all my plants together all same strain all from same seed bank that it has nothing to do with the def but enough of u hog I think u could be a cool guy if u had some type of social skills and actualy read what u write u seriously just put down everyone and say ur correct u need medication
I also said you had a root problem, did you pull it and look at the root ball?

your defs are N, P, K, Mag and Zinc which is not possible under normal conditions unless you have a root problem and knowing that does not make me a god

and not once have I put anyone down
 

ayr0n

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U commented like a smart arse I tryed to have a joke but obviously u have emotional problems and no sence of humour and ur very rarely wrong lol ok (bipolar think ur god)
U say my sick plant has 5 deficiencys what r they? U say that if I fed and grew all my plants together all same strain all from same seed bank that it has nothing to do with the def but enough of u hog I think u could be a cool guy if u had some type of social skills and actualy read what u write u seriously just put down everyone and say ur correct u need medication
Wait till forums are like voice chats that get recorded and can be played back or something...text is easily misinterpreted. I fight w/ ppl daily over some non existent shit in texts...
 

weedenhanced

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Wait till forums are like voice chats that get recorded and can be played back or something...text is easily misinterpreted. I fight w/ ppl daily over some non existent shit in texts...
Very true like fighting with the wife on text is not a good idea for some reason hog just seems to rub alot ppl the wrong way when in reality he prob trys to help but does not noob it down enough he told me whats wrong with my sick plant but gave no actual advise of what to do I cant pull the root ball out its a auto it woukd never have time to recover
 

hogbud

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I think u should move ur thread to the growers section not the newb section noobs do not understand u or half of what ur saying
That's why all these noobs are pm'ing me to ask their questions. I only care about helping new growers learn and understand the truth, been doin it for years and every single one that has listened is growin their ass off

and no that does not make me a god
 

hogbud

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Very true like fighting with the wife on text is not a good idea for some reason hog just seems to rub alot ppl the wrong way when in reality he prob trys to help but does not noob it down enough he told me whats wrong with my sick plant but gave no actual advise of what to do I cant pull the root ball out its a auto it woukd never have time to recover
I said if it was mine I would cull it, it will be very hard to save. I know it wasn't what you wanted to hear but I shared the truth
 

hogbud

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Honestly this guys right no noob needs this info if anything its just going to confuse them more!! But if you move this to the growers section. .those lions are going to rip your ass in half!!! U can't take this thread to a place where people already know what's up!
yeah, like they used to do when I was postin as Riddleme

like this one, read the whole thing and see how nice the discussion was
https://www.rollitup.org/t/wow-riddle-has-a-question.339103/
 

ayr0n

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I think u should move ur thread to the growers section not the newb section noobs do not understand u or half of what ur saying
IDK man...I get why you're turned off by things like "I invented this" "can another grower pull that off?" "find one thing I said that was wrong", type of shit, but I'm reading it as "This is proof I know what I'm saying" not as "My dick is giant". I'll probably get flamed for defending him, but I'm here to listen to all perspectives and learn ...so what if dude is a narcissist (not that he is, but I probably am), that doesn't mean it's bad information. Preferably when someone is selling me on something I like when they're overly confident in it rather than being like 'oh yeah this is ok....you might kind of like this...uhh'. So anyways long story short - fuck this arguing about who knows what and who has what personality deficiencies ..discussions don't have to be arguments. Debates don't have to be counter-productive and negative. For being a marijuana forum ya'll are stressful AF lol.

Oh and I def see how that 5 nute deficiency comment might have came off as snarky, but I think he was just saying nute lockout? IDK I'm a terrible mediator but I tried ;)

Honestly this guys right no noob needs this info if anything its just going to confuse them more!!
I want all the info :D For actually being a quite simple (in it's basic form) thing to do, growing marijuana can get quite confusing when you first jump in, but more info with some confusion is better than no information and confusion which is where I started off...slowly putting the puzzle together n my head, which wouldn't happen nearly as fast without threads like this.
 
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hogbud

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would it be better if I said I introduced? I had a new grower do the boil thing for the first time and he was blown away by the improvement and thanked me. I did not invent the boil thing it was an old hippie myth that I researched and verified and posted the science

I introduced my make it rain technique and I had a new grower try it a week ago for first time and again,,, blown away (hundreds use it by the way) did I invent rain,,,, no, but I figured out what happens when it rains and developed a technique to copy it
 

hogbud

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new growers are slammed with bad info when they start let me name a few,,,,

put the light as close as you can get it
hold your hand under it, if it's to hot for you it's too hot for the plants
PK boost during flower increases buds
it's normal for them to die at the end
you gotta flush that shit don't wanna smoke no nutes
hell this list goes on and on

all I have ever done is share the truth about all that nonsense and it is new growers that need the most IMO
 

ayr0n

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new growers are slammed with bad info when they start let me name a few,,,,

put the light as close as you can get it
hold your hand under it, if it's to hot for you it's too hot for the plants
PK boost during flower increases buds
it's normal for them to die at the end
you gotta flush that shit don't wanna smoke no nutes
hell this list goes on and on

all I have ever done is share the truth about all that nonsense and it is new growers that need the most IMO
Not a flusher eh? Anything to add on that? From my understanding the flush is basically running straight water with nothing added for a while to clear out nutes, but when you do your boiling method on the roots you're stopping anymore nutes from getting into the plant, and then running them for 3 more days under lights, so wouldn't most excessive nutes get used up during that 3 day period and give a similar result as a flush? Also, doesn't some of that shit get broke down inside your fermentation chamber during the fermentation process, rendering a flush irrelevant? Is flushing a "myth" for all grows, or just your methods/processes?
 

hogbud

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Not a flusher eh? Anything to add on that? From my understanding the flush is basically running straight water with nothing added for a while to clear out nutes, but when you do your boiling method on the roots you're stopping anymore nutes from getting into the plant, and then running them for 3 more days under lights, so wouldn't most excessive nutes get used up during that 3 day period and give a similar result as a flush?
I keep em green and feed em to the end but you are correct once the roots are boiled the plant does start pulling from the leaves. Here's the thing, that fermentation thing that we all like (the cure) requires N for it to work as the plant uses N to convert the sugars to alcohol. This is also why I leave the leaves on when I pile em in the chamber and yes they keep on pullin N from the leaves even then. The piles create a compost like heat and yes I rotate the piles around once or twice a day it is a lot more work then just hangin em

The 3 days under the lights gives em the energy to start the ferment process
 
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