CannaReview
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Most people I know would get their allowed limit for free since the DG was using their license. So if you have 20 grams per day and it took 150 days to crop the patient would get 3.5+ LB at no charge.
MMPR Driving down black market prices?
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Commander Strax
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I am not a Canadian, so help a brother out....what is MMAR and MG?
chex1111
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Wow, $10 an ounce from a DG? Including trimming? So you would grow me ten pounds for $1600? I think the cost of production is more like the $2, or maybe $1 a gram unless you get wet untrimmed outdoor. Looks like you could make money at $300/ lb I would like to see that. Or, maybe I wouldn't as explained below.
Price is down everywhere due to overproduction. BC has a huge number of underemployed people and drug enterprising immigrants (like the ones setting up the greenhouses in the woods around beaver dell). I'm telling it like i see it. It used to be hard to just get the things you need to set up and also hard to find advice. Now everything is on the internet or at the grow shop. You just have to walk in and they will set you up with everything you need- electrician, plumber, buyer, trimmers, its pretty much all in the open now.
I think the black market growers days are numbered unless they have a big setup paid for. Those imagining that they will have $2400 ind pounds again are going to be as disappointed as the ones that used to get $3000 p for outdoor.
The future, I think will be dominated by players like Koch Greenhouses down in Langley. They have great weather, huge hydroponic greenhouses and unlimited cheap labour by East Indians who work very hard for minimum wage. If you are already doing roses you have almost everything in place for cannabis. The growing, pruning, shading and temperature control, and pest control are all ready to go. They have cold storage for cut product getting ready to be trimmed. They just need a drying and trimming setup.
I would be surprised if an open market has any decent margin after a couple years. It's not like the wine industry in which there is a barrier to entry because the land and setup is expensive. You don't need a parcel around the second most expensive zone in BC to compete in the cannabis market.
Thats my two cents, plink plink
Price is down everywhere due to overproduction. BC has a huge number of underemployed people and drug enterprising immigrants (like the ones setting up the greenhouses in the woods around beaver dell). I'm telling it like i see it. It used to be hard to just get the things you need to set up and also hard to find advice. Now everything is on the internet or at the grow shop. You just have to walk in and they will set you up with everything you need- electrician, plumber, buyer, trimmers, its pretty much all in the open now.
I think the black market growers days are numbered unless they have a big setup paid for. Those imagining that they will have $2400 ind pounds again are going to be as disappointed as the ones that used to get $3000 p for outdoor.
The future, I think will be dominated by players like Koch Greenhouses down in Langley. They have great weather, huge hydroponic greenhouses and unlimited cheap labour by East Indians who work very hard for minimum wage. If you are already doing roses you have almost everything in place for cannabis. The growing, pruning, shading and temperature control, and pest control are all ready to go. They have cold storage for cut product getting ready to be trimmed. They just need a drying and trimming setup.
I would be surprised if an open market has any decent margin after a couple years. It's not like the wine industry in which there is a barrier to entry because the land and setup is expensive. You don't need a parcel around the second most expensive zone in BC to compete in the cannabis market.
Thats my two cents, plink plink
j0yr1d3
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Yes $10 an ounce is possible. I think our idea of a trusted DG differs. The DGs that take on multiple high dosage scripts to grow monster plants and sell the excess to the compassion clubs and black market are a lot different than the friend/uncle/brother/roommate/etc that grows a few plants in their garage/spare room/closet/greenhouse/etc for you and just you.
CannaReview
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I think the underground market will be around for a long time. If the Canadian gov legalizes it it will not be cheap to buy, they are looking at this as a MONSTER cash cow. From what I'm hearing the underground market in Colorado is going strong because of the high legal retail prices same thing will happen where you'll just see $100-120/oz.
Devil Lettuce
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Interesting article on the subject:
http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2014/03/28/the-coming-marijuana-crash/
http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2014/03/28/the-coming-marijuana-crash/
MarijeJane
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That sounds very illegal to me. Nothing is free, they were just getting other people to pay for it.
Yeap that was just another scam from the grandfathers of industry who called themselves activists. These so called benevolent DG's wouldn't even look at them unless they purchased a 20grams per day plus "license". "Treating Yourself" apparently has multiple connotations. After they got their cards most of them got the shaft and never saw a single gram of "free weed". Health Canada left those dummies high and dry, refusing to cancel their license which they had handed over, and forcing them to pay a doctor for another one. It's quite clear from that that they were complicit in what they called "diversion", themselves.
But how else would they justify the mmpr. So to be clear, the people they were having pay for their "free weed" are in fact the ones most fucked by the mmpr.
CannaReview
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Well the DG had a license to grow for the patient, I guess I worded it wrong. So the patient got what was on their daily limit per day x how ever many days for the crop. They got their cannabis for free vs other DG selling it back to the patient who they are growing for. Now the DG making money off the left over was illegal.
The Hippy
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There's a lot of talk on here about free cannabis for a DG's patient. If that was happening then someone was obviously selling extra elsewhere. Because even home growing has it's costs. Maybe that was an arrangement some folks had. Like a trade. Help me and I help you out no charge. Sounds ok to me
CannaReview
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That was but not always. I know of a few DG's that ripped off their patients, those were just low life's taking advantage of someone who had no space or money to grow but their doc's signed for them.
The Hippy
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Yes that's very unfortunate that there was not some way those folks could get that seen to by HC. Most of the DG's i know are extremely good to their folks. There should have been an agreement of service form when they applied. If not adhered to the DG could be outed...anyway too late now.