The forbidden TRUTH

[Ceepea]

We use B.C.E. and C.E. now, not B.C. and A.D.

 

[ghostdriver]

B.C. means "before Christ" or, that is, before the year traditionally considered the year of his birth. But the majority of people around the world are not Chirstian and don't like having to measure time by someone else's religion. So they call it B.C.E. meaning "Before Christian Era" or "Before Common Era" which is less offensive. They also use, C.E. for "Common Era" rather than A.D. (Anno Domini - "year of our lord" in Latin)

"WE" LOL

 

[ghostdriver]

Everything you just posted states that the body of humans and creatures have the ability to be acclimated which was the starting point of darwins theory. There is no proof that human beings come from bacteria or any creature ever. I'm sure you got excited at this misleading presentation but read what you posted. Your'e saying that I said animals and human beings flesh are not similar, they are very similar in someways but our soul is nothing like theirs. I'm not asking you to prove survival of the fittest ether, which this mentions, or how animals belonging to the same gene pool can mate with other animals making adaptions to their body. All dogs and cats are mixed breeds, and different nationalities have different traits skin, eyes, face ect. That change based on your partner in your gene pool. Our skin and body also will become more resilient to sun, or weather the longer we endure it. GOD's creation is awesome. Darwins theory is that this proves his theory. I already knew this. I know what your religion believes, this is what you think of as holy scripture. Now where is the proof that
germs=Human beings
germs= made creation matter and light
germs made germs or germs have always been. Matter can't create mater unless it's THE ALMIGHTY OMNIPOTENT GOD
I will begin to ask you questions knowing the answer to prove your religion is wrong if you want me too. But you said you have proof I know what you think but I want your proof. This is like a islam man posting Qu'ran saying "this this is proof!" I would tell him the same thing i'm telling you this isn't proof this is your theory I already knew your blasphemous cult theory. I would then ask for proof again so where is all your proof you speak of? (asking knowing the answer because I am a witness of GOD) Then if you want I can begin to ask you questions ( knowing the answers) to have blatantly show you the irrational and obscure view your'e being tricked into.
- Post 804 answering your post 803
Response to your post not liking this post
And Claiming all creatures are built a certain way to swim, run, fly ect. is clearly proof of GOD not that bacteria are constantly trying to evolve into human beings with the ability also to be monkeys, elephants, giraffe, ect. lol this is a horrible blaspheme theory based on the noticing how animals are all built in a certain way to pertaining to how they live? So instead realizing GOD made everything the way it is for a reason stars, sun, earth temp, earth spin, all the animals and your fingers and toes, body ect. Your religion says "that's impossible you have never seen that happened so believe something else you have never seen that people and animals constantly evolve from bacteria and we don't know anything else but this is right we are positive, and even though there is no bacteria forming into creatures or humans or anything in which would EVER suggest this, we have no evidence at all for this idea, but because all the other options are wrong because we say science doesn't support that a being can create things, because we haven't seen it.? Well science says your'e wrong because batter can't create something from nothing, Only THE CREATOR GOD can.

 

[ghostdriver]

Every marine Biologist knows what the Hen bone is and what it's used for it's not legs. It's a pelvic bone designed by GOD for MATING
http://www.trueorigin.org/ng_whales01.asp Doesn't list speculation it's listing facts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakicetus is very clear that some people THINK that, but that's not based off evidence.
Pakicetus is an extinct genus of amphibious cetacean of the family Pakicetidae which was endemic to the Eocene of Pakistan.[1]The vast majority of paleontologists regard it as the most basal whale.
-If this was fact with real evidence all paleontologist would agree.
Pakicetus was originally described as being a mesonychid, but later research reclassified it as an early cetacean due to characteristic features of the inner ear found only incetaceans; namely, the large auditory bulla is formed from the ectotympanicbone only. It was then believed to be descended from mesonychids, according to Gingerich & Russell 1981. However, the redescription of the primitive, semi-aquatic artiodactyl Indohyus, and the discovery of its cetacean-like inner ear simultaneously put an end to the idea that whales were descended from mesonychids, while demonstrating that Pakicetus, and all other cetaceans, are artiodactyls. Thus, Pakicetus represents a transitional taxon between extinct land mammals and modern cetaceans.[4]
- Gingerich again but then corrects himself when he finds what he calls "new evidence" LOL
-Gingerich also from the 2001 November issue on the walking whales LOL which
It was illustrated on the cover of Science as a semiaquatic, vaguely crocodilelike mammal, diving after fish.[5]
- LOL completely not what it looks like on wikipedia
Somewhat more complete skeletal remains were discovered in 2001, prompting the view that Pakicetus was primarily a land animal about the size of a wolf, and very similar in form to the related mesonychids. Thewissen et al. 2001 wrote that "Pakicetids were terrestrial mammals, no more amphibious than a tapir."[6]
However, Thewissen et al. 2009 argued that "the orbits ... of these cetaceans were located close together on top of the skull, as is common in aquatic animals that live in water but look at emerged objects. Just like Indohyus, limb bones of pakicetids areosteosclerotic, also suggestive of aquatic habitat"[7] (since heavy bones provide ballast). "This peculiarity could indicate thatPakicetus could stand in water, almost totally immersed, without losing visual contact with the air."[8]
The Pakicetus skeleton reveals several details regarding the creature's unique senses, and provides a newfound ancestral link between terrestrial and aquatic animals. As previously mentioned, the Pakicetus' upward-facing eye placement was a significant indication of its habitat. Even more so, however, was its auditory abilities. Like all other cetaceans, Pakicetus had a thickened skull bone known as the auditory bulla, which was specialized for underwater hearing.[9] Cetaceans also all categorically exhibit a large mandibular foramen within the lower jaw, which holds a fat pack and extends towards the ear, both of which are also associated with underwater hearing. "Pakicetus is the only cetacean in which the mandibular foramen is small, as is the case in all terrestrial animals. It thus lacked the fat pad, and sounds reached its eardrum following the external auditory meatus as in terrestrial mammals. Thus the hearing mechanism of Pakicetus is the only known intermediate between that of land mammals and aquatic cetaceans."[10]With both the auditory and visual senses in mind, as well as the typical diet of Pakicetus, one might assume the creature was able to attack both aquatic and terrestrial prey from a low vantage point.
- Your basically reading this and thinking because this creature isn't just like another one, it's got to be in the middle of it evolving phase LOL
None of the features in question are any evidence of an evolutionary relationship. Even evolutionists admit that most of the theoretical relationships built on the basis of anatomical similarities between animals are completely untrustworthy. If the marsupial Tasmanian wolf and the common placental wolf had both been extinct for a long time, then it is no doubt that evolutionists would picture them in the same taxon and define them as very close relatives. However, we know that these two different animals, although strikingly similar in their anatomy, are very far from each other in the supposed evolutionary tree of life. (In fact their similarity indicates common design—not common descent.) Pakicetus, which National Geographicdeclared to be a ‘walking whale,’ was a unique species harboring different features in its body. In fact, Carroll, an authority on vertebrate paleontology, describes the Mesonychid family, of whichPakicetus should be a member, as “exhibiting an odd combination of characters.”[3] Such prominent evolutionists as Gould accept that ‘mosaic creatures’ of this type cannot be considered as transitional forms.
Do you think the duck billed platypus turning into a complete duck?
So your'e saying GOD can't create creation and has always been? but the Universe can create and has always been? That's literally believing in something that you claim is impossible.
"You think because GOD ALMIGHTY is the beginning and the end, you can state that the universe can be the same because it's following the same principal? That's completely erroneous. The only reason GOD is before everything is because GOD is a living omnipotent being that you cannot fathom. Before the beginning GOD was."- page 43

 

[ghostdriver]

So How has anything I said been declared false?

 

[Ceepea]

"Every marine Biologist knows what the Hen bone is and what it's used for it's not legs."

Is demonstrably false. You can literally go on google, type marine biologist whale leg bones and click on the first link. There are several links to credible sources, including this one;

http://digitallibrary.amnh.org/dspace/bitstream/handle/2246/4849/N0009.pdf;jsessionid=55D6453968F5461B1B6BFF8D53C81F16?sequence=1

There are actual pictures of whale femurs. You know, the ones you say don't exist because whales were built as-is by god? lol

 

[Ceepea]

Humans have tail bones because we used to have tails! Every once in a while someone is still born with a tail.....

 

[ghostdriver]

The fact your trying to explain things without a creator and connect species claiming they are all one species, and some groups decided to "just do different things" so then there "Body's" became different making butterfly's, baboons, trout, elephants is such a extravagantly ignorant suggestion of "evidence" it's staggering. Your theory is to deny the existence of a omnipotent. I could gather random skeletons from extinct species and claim it's the same thing and there are billions and trillions missing links between the two. Does this make me sane?
I could say,
It's bones are made of same material
and it's skull is similar. So would I be right?
This isn't evidence.. And that's exactly what your'e doing.
This isn't even rational reasoning or suggesting.

Do you think if you and the rest of the darwin worshipers, got your family's together and started to live standing in the ocean standing up to your waist do you think after many generations you will become sea people?- Serious question

So besides dwelling on your suggestion of evidence as nothing, do you care that what your saying is impossible on every virtual level?
You really want to believe the impossible, world and matter came from nothing and people evolve from germs as well as everything.
Like my marijuana, you think this seed came from a germ. And it can appear from nothing. And it happens over time.
and light and water and man and women and you think these germs can do all these things and leave no evidence and just stop and not question how they could do this or where they came from, or why you are physically made the way you are.
And that these germs that have always been here somehow seem to have stopped transforming into things now. Because in reality things just decompose and die and people can't run into the water (us you claiming be the germs) and start to slowly grow gills over generations and become mermaids and be fish people and build Atlantis and have sharks as pets.
This is reality not something George Lucas or Steven Spielberg wrote.

You : "No, matter has always existed in some form or another. We have no reason to believe matter can be created or destroyed. "

Me:
- If matter is here it got created do you have proof that something is able to come from nothing? EXACTLY
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[ghostdriver]

http://creation.com/the-strange-tale-of-the-leg-on-the-whale
Below: Drawing shows a similar (small) pelvic bone of a Sperm whale with an even smaller abnormal lump of bone fused to it, which abnormality is labeled by evolutionists a ‘vestigial femur.’ However, this tiny blob of bone bears little resemblance to the leg bone of any land animal.

 

[ghostdriver]

That's what you base everything around lol that's your proof of whales walking on land lol

 

[ghostdriver]

I knew, of course, that some modern whales have a pair of bones embedded in their tissues, each of which strengthens the pelvic wall and acts as an organ anchor. I knew that evolutionists generally claim that these small, yet purposeful structures are vestigial (‘left-over’) organs. They choose to believe that each bone of the pair is all that is left of the pelvic bone of the whale’s ancestor which, according to evolutionary doctrine, once walked and ran on land. They believe this even though these strips of bone have a known function, differ in males and females, and are not even attached to the vertebral column. I also knew that people are sometimes born with abnormalities such as an extra finger, or an extra rib, but no evolutionist claims that we evolved from a six-fingered ancestor. Whales could be born with a little extra lump of bone which evolutionists therefore insisted was a throwback corresponding to a second limb bone.

 

[ghostdriver]

Not BC AD lol...

 

[ghostdriver]

If you have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sever's_disease (which I had) does this mean my bones on my feet use to have more legs?
Of course not.

 

[thepenofareadywriter]

The only actually post to response to would be pen, and I did it before. Pen you asked me questions and demonstrated your complete ignorance of THE HOLY BIBLE and you said you read it. Which is why I said you are lying. And know your lying.
Love you all starting not to care about the spam it's helping boost replies and views so until next time!

this is something that I actually posted a few months ago "I am going to try to make this as short as possible when I was around 25 years old my wife left me , that sent me to a place that you do not want to be [a state of mind] total depression I walk the streets maybe 6 months don't for sure. One day some gave me a bible and took me in. back to normal going to work have my own place all the good things. Even going to church which didn't last long because I couldn't stand being around all the actors. Time passed on...I woke up one morning and found that I was sleeping in an alley, I had no idea what happened, but I was very scared. I remembered that bible helped me before So I asked somebody if they could get me one. I spent the next 22 years on the streets of ca. az., and Nevada ,reading, eating, and sleeping that book. fasting for weeks at a time more than once. conversation, visions in the presence of perfection...so close to god that I began to question him. because his book says come let us reason together. time passed on once again...I am going to skip so of this...what I found was there was no man name jesus...the bible is full of truth and lies. the tree of knowledge comes in many binders [binders as in book binders] He is the alpha [A] the omega [Z] and every letter in between I don't always call him god sometimes I say the power or even the essence of all. I don't claim to know it all , far from it, but I do know that the mind of MAN is an amazing thing and can take to places beyond wonder...Is there a god like the bible says NO ! there isn't . IT was written by men like you and me that were different states of mind some happy some sad, and some pissed off...and when we fall into those same states of mind we relate to them...truth helps lies misguide....you called me a liar 3 times maybe 4 which tells me you cannot recognize truth...what pisses me off is that this god thing so fools people that they can't even love their ownselves when people try to convince others they really are trying to convince self. that they have heaven and the other self is going to hell. there is neither one it is a state of the mind...

 

[Ceepea]

You : "No, matter has always existed in some form or another. We have no reason to believe matter can be created or destroyed. "

Me:
- If matter is here it got created do you have proof that something is able to come from nothing? EXACTLY
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Do you have proof I'm not god and what I'm telling you isn't the ACTUAL word of god? EXACTLY
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[Ceepea]

See how stupid that is?

We have never seen matter be created or destroyed, so why make the giant leap of faith that it was created in the first place? You're claim god is eternal, why can't the universe be eternal in some form?

 

[ghostdriver]

Do you have proof I'm not god and what I'm telling you isn't the ACTUAL word of god? EXACTLY
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Yes after seeing pages and pages written by you, I assure you your not GOD. Once again baffled at your reasoning. And ability to ignore life.

The fact your trying to explain things without a creator and connect species claiming they are all one species, and some groups decided to "just do different things" so then there "Body's" became different making butterfly's, baboons, trout, elephants is such a extravagantly ignorant suggestion of "evidence" it's staggering. Your theory is to deny the existence of a omnipotent. I could gather random skeletons from extinct species and claim it's the same thing and there are billions and trillions missing links between the two. Does this make me sane?
I could say,
It's bones are made of same material
and it's skull is similar. So would I be right?
This isn't evidence.. And that's exactly what your'e doing.
This isn't even rational reasoning or suggesting.

Do you think if you and the rest of the darwin worshipers, got your family's together and started to live standing in the ocean standing up to your waist do you think after many generations you will become sea people?- Serious question

So besides dwelling on your suggestion of evidence as nothing, do you care that what your saying is impossible on every virtual level?
You really want to believe the impossible, world and matter came from nothing and people evolve from germs as well as everything.
Like my marijuana, you think this seed came from a germ. And it can appear from nothing. And it happens over time.
and light and water and man and women and you think these germs can do all these things and leave no evidence and just stop and not question how they could do this or where they came from, or why you are physically made the way you are.
And that these germs that have always been here somehow seem to have stopped transforming into things now. Because in reality things just decompose and die and people can't run into the water (us you claiming be the germs) and start to slowly grow gills over generations and become mermaids and be fish people and build Atlantis and have sharks as pets.
This is reality not something George Lucas or Steven Spielberg wrote.

You : "No, matter has always existed in some form or another. We have no reason to believe matter can be created or destroyed. "

Me:
- If matter is here it got created do you have proof that something is able to come from nothing? EXACTLY
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[Ceepea]

Yes after seeing pages and pages written by you, I assure you your not GOD. Once again baffled at your reasoning. And ability to ignore life.

You can't prove it.

And you can't prove that there was ever 'nothing' either. The only thing we know is that at one point there was a singularity and it went through a rapid expansion.

 

[ghostdriver]

Well actually because it's the only thing possible, and nothing contradicts or suggest otherwise it's proven.
Because I literally communicate with GOD it's proven.

 

[Ceepea]

Well actually because it's the only thing possible, and nothing contradicts or suggest otherwise it's proven.

It's not the only thing possible, nincompoop. lol

You toss the word impossible around like you actually understand what it means. It's cute.

Because I literally communicate with GOD it's proven.

You don't talk to god anymore than you talk with the man on the moon.