Heaven, Hell, and the Devil aren't real, but God is?

from the book of Jasher

18. And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.

19. And the Lord said, I will blot out man that I created from the face of the earth, yea from man to the birds of the air, together with cattle and beasts that are in the field for I repent that I made them.

20. And all men who walked in the ways of the Lord, died in those days, before the Lord brought the evil upon man which he had declared, for this was from the Lord, that they should not see the evil which the Lord spoke of concerning the sons of men.




........Man cannot improve on Gods original creation, we think we can but we just make a mess of things, splicing dna from this n that all sounds great, at the time, but later it will just be a waste of time and money, Gmo seeds that are sterile and cant reproduce, so you have to buy more from big corporations, what a joke when god made plants able to reproduce for the farmer since time began.

if we are posting memes that actually don't prove much except a lack of understanding, here is what chatgpt says are some non bible related facts...

There are several non-biblical sources that provide evidence for the existence of Jesus as a historical figure:

1. Flavius Josephus: A first-century Jewish historian, Josephus mentions Jesus in his works "Antiquities of the Jews" and "The Jewish War." Although some scholars believe that later Christian interpolations may have altered the text, there is a consensus that Josephus did make reference to Jesus, albeit briefly.
2. Tacitus: The Roman historian Tacitus, in his work "Annals," written around 116 AD, refers to a "Christus" who suffered under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Emperor Tiberius. While Tacitus's mention is brief, it corroborates the historical context of Jesus' crucifixion.
3. Pliny the Younger: Pliny, a Roman governor and writer, mentioned Christians and their worship of Christ in a letter to Emperor Trajan around 112 AD. This provides indirect evidence for the existence of Jesus and the early Christian movement.
4. Suetonius: Another Roman historian, Suetonius, mentions a figure named "Chrestus" in his work "Lives of the Twelve Caesars." While the reference is not directly about Jesus, it is believed by some scholars to allude to early Christian activities in Rome.
5. Mara Bar-Serapion: A Syrian philosopher, Mara Bar-Serapion, wrote a letter to his son around 73 AD, in which he refers to the Jews executing their "wise king." While Jesus is not mentioned by name, many scholars believe this reference could be to Jesus.

thanks chatbot for clearing up Jesus was a real person in history...Now then

The atheist's will have you believe we die and thats it, an endless period of nothing, no afterlife at all, we are descended from apes, and we have no hope of meeting, up with loved ones once we pass. if they are correct, our spirit or soul, just dies with our body, and our lives and what we do with them count for nothing, so run a muck do what you want there's very little to no consequences. steal don't get caught, you all good, commit adulatory, no problem, just dont tell your wife.

Believers, will argue that is ridiculous, that we have a spirit that even though our bodies may die, that we will be judged by God after we die, and that is supported by numerous NDE testimonies from people who where brought back to life,

I'm in the later camp as you can probably guess, doesn't mean I'm perfect, far from it, I'm sure i managed to break most of the ten commandments, already i am just trying to clean up my act before its to late, its called being repentant

He sure looks like a stoner dude ! As a matter of fact, he looks smoked-up !

StonedGardener said:

He sure looks like a stoner dude ! As a matter of fact, he looks smoked-up !

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The Romans made a wanted poster for Jesus. He was 4 foot 9 inches tall with a hunchback, bald with a hook nose and unibrow. And as crazy as it sounds, Paul's wanted poster read almost the same. It makes you wonder.

Hell is what you make it.
Think of it like this you have an aquarium you plant it you put fish in it you watch them live grow die you feed them.you can help them but you cant see every fish all the time and you have no idea what they think.

The picture has got to be from an artists impression and it's also possible that the youtube letter from Pilate to Caesar is not actually from Pilate himself, So i would only put trust the scriptures found in the bible, that have been canonized back in the day. Still it puts things in perspective, as to what it would have been like back then. i'll have to dig a bit harder than the first Pilate video that pops up in the feed

here are some of the non bible writings i mentioned earlier....
Tacitus (56-120AD)
Cornelius Tacitus was known for his analysis and examination of historical documents and is among the most trusted of ancient historians. He was a senator under Emperor Vespasian and was also proconsul of Asia. In his “Annals’ of 116AD, he describes Emperor Nero’s response to the great fire in Rome and Nero’s claim that the Christians were to blame:

“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.”

In this account, Tacitus confirms several historical elements of the Biblical narrative: Jesus lived in Judea, was crucified under Pontius Pilate, and had followers who were persecuted for their faith in Christ.

Josephus (AD 37-100)

Josephus was a Jewish historian born just a few years after Jesus died. His most celebrated passage, called the “Testimonium Flavianum” says:

“Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.”76

Suetonius (AD 70-160)

Suetonius was a Roman historian and annalist of the Imperial House. In his biography of Nero (Nero ruled AD 54-6, Suetonius mentions the persecution of Christians by indirectly referring to the resurrection: “Punishment was inflicted on the Christians, a class of men given to a new and mischievous superstition [the resurrection].”77

Pliny the Younger (AD 61 or 62-113)

Pliny the Younger wrote a letter to the emperor Trajan around AD 111 describing early Christian worship gatherings that met early on Sunday mornings in memory of Jesus’ resurrection day:

“I have never been present at an examination of Christians. Consequently, I do not know the nature of the extent of the punishments usually meted out to them, nor the grounds for starting an investigation and how far it should be pressed…They also declared that the sum total of their guilt or error amounted to no more than this: they had met regularly before dawn on a fixed day [Sunday in remembrance of Jesus’ resurrection] to chant verses alternately amongst themselves in honor of Christ as if to a god.”78

Mara Bar-Serapion (70AD)
Sometime after 70AD, a Syrian philosopher named Mara Bar-Serapion, writing to encourage his son, compared the life and persecution of Jesus with that of other philosophers who were persecuted for their ideas. The fact Jesus is known to be a real person with this kind of influence is important. Mara Bar-Serapion refers to Jesus as the “Wise King”:

“What benefit did the Athenians obtain by putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as judgment for their crime. Or, the people of Samos for burning Pythagoras? In one moment their country was covered with sand. Or the Jews by murdering their wise king?…After that their kingdom was abolished. God rightly avenged these men…The wise king…Lived on in the teachings he enacted.”

From this account, we can add to our understanding of Jesus: He was a wise and influential man who died for His beliefs. The Jewish leadership was somehow responsible for Jesus’ death. Jesus’ followers adopted His beliefs and lived their lives accordingly.



The Jewish Explanation

The earliest attempt to provide an alternative explanation for the resurrection of Jesus did not deny that the tomb was empty.79 Instead, Jewish opponents claimed that the body had been stolen, thus admitting the fact of the empty tomb. But this explanation is untenable for the following reasons. (1) The tomb was closed with an enormous rock and sealed by the government, and there is no explanation for how the rock was moved while being guarded by armed Roman soldiers. (2) If the body had been stolen, a large ransom could have been offered to the thieves, and they could have been coerced to produce the body. Or if it had been taken by the disciples, then the torture and death they suffered should have been sufficient to return the body. (3) Even if the body was stolen, how are we to account for the fact that Jesus appeared to multiple crowds of people, proving that he was alive? In conclusion, the theft of the body is unlikely and still fails to account for it returning back to life.

Summarily, the historical testimony of those who were not Christians stands in agreement with Scripture that Jesus died and rose because those are the historical facts.

Never trust a person who can clear their conscience of any immortal act by asking forgiveness from an imaginary friend.

amneziaHaze said:

Hell is what you make it.

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According to every religion, and religion has a strict definition as a belief system derived from classical astrology, hell is the center of the universe, Hunab Ku, Sagittarius A*. Where all materialistic garbage eventually ends up to be crushed for eternity. Shine bright, you crazy diamonds. 99.9% of the Adamite consciousness will cling to memories of matter at death. Good riddance.

LedbetterCookiez said:

According to every religion, and religion has a strict definition as a belief system derived from classical astrology, hell is the center of the universe, Hunab Ku, Sagittarius A*. Where all materialistic garbage eventually ends up to be crushed for eternity. Shine bright, you crazy diamonds. 99.9% of the Adamite consciousness will cling to memories of matter at death. Good riddance.

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Vikings had 2 hells one of fire one of ice.and on the last day armies from hell will rise and help odin

Not saying Jesus cant forgive Murder, just that the last time i went to a church i doubt there were any murderers hanging out in there.

Most folk are just like this guy

bursto said:

Not saying Jesus cant forgive Murder, just that the last time i went to a church i doubt there were any murderers hanging out in there.

Most folk are just like this guy

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I met a man once that said he had killed a man. Served his time, became a believer and was at that time a preacher. You don't know who you were hanging out with in that church.

RottyRzr said:

I met a man once that said he had killed a man. Served his time, became a believer and was at that time a preacher. You don't know who you were hanging out with in that church.

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i haven't killed no one, but i have done a lot that i knew better and still did the wrong thing, say for example, if i had a car crash and someone died isn't it great that God can forgive our sins, if we become believers and repent of our sins, like the guy you mention.

some interesting proof on this