A question for Libertarians.

abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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‘One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, “our side,” had captured a crucial word from the enemy . . . “Libertarians” . . . had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over. . .’ ~Murray Rothbard, founder of American libertarianism
 
DonAlejandroVega

DonAlejandroVega

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abandonconflict said:
‘One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, “our side,” had captured a crucial word from the enemy . . . “Libertarians” . . . had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over. . .’ ~Murray Rothbard, founder of American libertarianism
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I had to read that shit like 6 times......lol. what does it mean? explain it to us, oh enlightened one.
 
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BigNBushy

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MidwesternGro said:
How would your libertarian utopia control things like lead in toys, pollution, unsafe working conditions, tainted food and maintaining roads without taxation and regulations? How would you enforce voting rights in the deep South?
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Just like there is no pure socialism, or capitalism in practice, electing libertarian candidates wouldn't usher in a new era of libertarianism. It would only influence.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
That you don't follow it.
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Since you seem to like to hit and run and not be inconvenienced by actually committing to just what you believe, or answer questions about what can and cannot be owned, I'm going to have to a hard time carrying on a discussion with you.

I believe some things can be owned. I'm guessing you do not?
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
Since you seem to like to hit and run and not be inconvenienced by actually committing to just what you believe, or answer questions about what can and cannot be owned, I'm going to have to a hard time carrying on a discussion with you.

I believe some things can be owned. I'm guessing you do not?
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You apparently believe everything can be owned, including people and I wouldn't put it past you to think that the atmosphere ought to be privatized.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
You apparently believe everything can be owned, including people and I wouldn't put it past you to think that the atmosphere ought to be privatized.
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Semantics. I believe that every person "owns" themselves, but should not own others.

As far as which other things that can be owned. I believe ownership is established by either consensual trade or by a person creating a product or acquiring unowned property by improving it. That is not a complete list btw.

I have some concerns about natural resources that might surprise you, but before we can hold a discussion it's only fair for you to state what you think can and cannot be owned. You seem reluctant to do that.

Have you ever read anything posted on the website, Center for a Stateless Society?
 
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