Deusracing, please keep me up to date on the results in flowering please. If you could tell me your veg setup great. I assume it's plasma. .9 gpw is not realistic. I've followed this technology for a decade now. I know someone with a Luxim unit and their gpw. I feel I have to go to other sites to get more info. The only way someone is getting .9 gpw compared to HPS is if they are veg and flower with plasma and compare it to veg and flower with HPS with HPS having a R:FR ratio of 6. Anyone gues what the R:FR ratio of this plasma lamp is?
Rocket Plasma, new(ish) plasma light
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Deusracing
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I'm going to veg a bit longer trying to get me some clones first. Since I have only 3-4 mystery strains left. I will try. But I don't keep logs or I only. Weighed once wet. I had 2.2 pounds one plant 400w. But I didn't wait long enough to weigh it dry. We just smoked it
gk skunky
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If you lost only 70% water weight, which is being conservative, that would be .74 gpw if 400w total. More realistically mid .6x gpw.
Deusracing
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Honestly i never weighed afterwards.. I gave some away before done i dryer fast some of it to try.. I wish i was organized like some keeping journals logs feeding schedules.. ugh too much. LOL i will tell you it wasn't enough for us.. we went through our first grow in bout 2 weeks. lol maybe 3
Although i am convinced 235w is enough for me
I think that a side by side test using the same veg light then separating the plants with one group grown in flowering with HPS and the other with plasma would be ground breaking research. No need to keep logs. Just final weight. Wishing you well and let us know your opinions on the grow dude!
Deusracing
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I sure will. I wanted to flip her last week but she's just getting so bushy. took a few clones off her and just gonna let nature tell me when.
Cool bro. You would be doing ground breaking research by just standardizing everything (similar clones, same veg light and veg time, etc.) with the only difference being in flowering with two groups of veg plants of near equal dimensions flowering under HPS and the other flowered under plasma. Then just reporting the weight/gpw of each. If you do it I applaud you. You're working with a highly technical piece of lighting that required major venture capital investment.
The problem is that the plasma is only 235 watts and HPS is higher. I guess one could measure the PAR, umol/m2/s-1, and equal it for both HPS and plasma, but I don't know if you have a PAR meter. Their cheap, but I don't want you to buy one if you don't have one.
Either way, please keep reporting amigo. Best of luck. I'll stay posted on your setup decision.
Peace
Deusracing
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No i don't have one. And for wattage its just a number man.. just like car stereos 0-50w class was the hardest to beat i know i hit 128.8db on 40 watts. anyhow the only plants gonna be in here when I'm ready to flip is my cloning bucket under canopy and my girl i have some awesome shots coming up on danksters thread
Deusracing
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Actually to be honest man I've had a rough time with this grow.. I got this clone in march. i tried so many times to get her healthy but i over fed drilled into roots she got spiders holy fuck you wouldn't believe. I stripped her down to bare stem.. Got my new light well that is a story in itself just say this is my 3rd plasma in 3 weeks. Don't hate this is how things work I FIND EVERY ELECTRONIC LEMON. I always have. anyways this is 23-25 days from a naked clone to today under THE ROCKET. i will send a link to the other thread if you wanna see some progress or simply my page. here is a link to my grow room though
Oh I thought you had a Rocket plasma. My bad. As for wattage I don't know quite what you mean and I'll leave it alone to save hundreds of pages of comments which has been discussed in volumes of literature, but I think you're just saying wattage is just one factor to consider and there are other factors that play a significant role. Agreed on that part.
Deusracing
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What i mean is you can't always gauge how things are going to grow based off of Wattage. There are so many environmental things that can occur as well. And yes i own a rocket Plasma
I agree 100%. I mentioned in my last post that there are many other factors so we are in agreement. However, in the very narrow window of comparing a Rocket Plasma 235 watt to a HPS, I would hope that a fairly decent comparison could be made. The Dutch seem to do it just fine. I don't mean to offend you at all and I respect you for your willingness to try out new technology. To me, your willingness to buy a Rocket Plasma led me to believe that you would compare plasma to HPS. But in the end if you're not interested in knowing the ratio in yield between a plasma and HPS then it is none of my concern at all as you paid for the light. Please keep me informed as I value your input. Peace and love bro.
Awesome. If you can give a good comparison with 400wmh in veg and hps and plasma in the boxing ring for flowering then great, but do what you do as I don't want to impose myself. I'm just very interested in the lighting technology so I mean no offense. Props to you for buying it and having the funds.
Be careful with the pics my friend if you're no completely safe.
Any information you can provide on how a plasma stacks up against a HPS in flowering with similar veg would be awesome. If it's not in the cards that's fine. Nice setup and plants bro. Peace
Deusracing
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I sure will.. I think I'm gonna wait a few weeks before flowering. In the mean time I'm trying to figure out the is dwc/ebb and flow system. Too much water they droop not enough the roots get a bit dry and droop. so my thing now is watching and learning how much they eat and how much water they need in this particular system. I've fiddled around with a few feeding schedules. so far its 30 minutes of feed every 6 hours with a 15 min feed 2x in between the 6 hours.Awesome. If you can give a good comparison with 400wmh in veg and hps and plasma in the boxing ring for flowering then great, but do what you do as I don't want to impose myself. I'm just very interested in the lighting technology so I mean no offense. Props to you for buying it and having the funds.
Be careful with the pics my friend if you're no completely safe.
Any information you can provide on how a plasma stacks up against a HPS in flowering with similar veg would be awesome. If it's not in the cards that's fine. Nice setup and plants bro. Peace
Deusracing
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well i will tell you i have a grow journal for my first grow with mh and \hps 400w http://www.420magazine.com/forums/members/hydrodad.html Here is my first ever attempt to grow with 400wmh and 400shps so if you have time you can kinda tell the progress i did leave for 18 days and left girls by themselves.. anyhow if i get time i might just get all photos together and make a side by side or you can do as well just by taking the images from 420 and their time line i always post right after taking. and the ones on here
Deusracing
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oh yes always looking on 3-4 more
Deusracing
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http://rollitup.org/t/rocket-plasma-grow.824466/page-8#post-10732376Who makes the light engine? And I don't believe their spectral distribution chart at all cause its still an mh plasma.....idk could be wrong but their technical specs are lacking.
Cute color for the housing though
believe it man its all the hype and more
Deusracing
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PLASMA BABY ROCKET ONLYReally need pics for this journal. Not saying i dont trust the thread starter, but pics would make those numbers alot more real.
My plasma light was DIY, luxim is the supplier of plasma products, so really dont see a comparison between any of these companies, other then name and how the unit is assembled.
Btw, cost about 700 or less to assemble a plasma light.
Hope this thread gets updated with pics !
Plasma love yall!
Yoda veggin under plasma
http://rollitup.org/t/rocket-plasma-grow.824466/page-8#post-10732376