Thanks Obama, seriously.

[Hazydat620]

No Buckfuck, I have a very successful business thank you. I actually employ people who raise families and send children to college on the earnings from BEING EMPLOYED. I realize that's something you know nothing about.

So it takes $15.00 an hour to live an honest life and send your children to college? Why wouldn't everyone want that? some people just aren't worthy in your eye's or what?

 

[BigNBushy]

So it takes $15.00 an hour to live an honest life and send your children to college? Why wouldn't everyone want that? some people just aren't worthy in your eye's or what?

No, some jobs aren't worth that much. If you need to make a certain amount to live how you want, you need to do something that is worth that much.

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

No Buckfuck, I have a very successful business thank you. I actually employ people who raise families and send children to college on the earnings from BEING EMPLOYED. I realize that's something you know nothing about.

lmao you're off of rollitup for 10 hrs a day other than that you've had a post about every 15-30 minutes in the last week. why are you such a faggot?

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

So it takes $15.00 an hour to live an honest life and send your children to college? Why wouldn't everyone want that? some people just aren't worthy in your eye's or what?

how about all the poors get roomates and figure out ways to lessen their bills.

 

[ginwilly]

Jobs that hire adults should be required to pay reasonable living wages to their employees that don't require those employees to use government aid, that's why adults get jobs, to support themselves. If you want to run a business and pay the employees less than that, hire minors with work permits who aren't working to support themselves and see how well your business runs. You get what you pay for

Some jobs are not worth 10 or15 bucks an hour. There are jobs that if you can't pay a kid 5 bucks an hour to do, you will do without that job and force the other employees to add this duty to their own, like sweeping the kitchen at close.

Your idea of paying a minor one wage, but an adult doing the same job more, leads to what unintended consequence? That kid loses his job when he turns 18.

I'll ask it again to get a handle on your economic understanding. If minimum wage were a million a year, do you think poverty would be more than a million a year or remain unchanged?

 

[UncleBuck]

No, some jobs aren't worth that much. If you need to make a certain amount to live how you want, you need to do something that is worth that much.

tell that to all those poor $12 an hour earners (like kynes) who you feel will be screwed if min wage goes up to $10.10.

 

[UncleBuck]

Some jobs are not worth 10 or15 bucks an hour. There are jobs that if you can't pay a kid 5 bucks an hour to do, you will do without that job and force the other employees to add this duty to their own, like sweeping the kitchen at close.

good luck sweeping grease off the kitchen floor, dumbass.

kitchens in restaurants need almost professional cleaning every night, and at least every once in a while if you do not want to be condemned by the health department.

Your idea of paying a minor one wage, but an adult doing the same job more, leads to what unintended consequence? That kid loses his job when he turns 18.

you guys worry so much about this hypothetical 17-18 year old kid and the kynes' of the world making $11.50 an hour, but then tell the guy working 40 hours a week at min wage to kick rocks.

two faced hypotheticalists.

I'll ask it again to get a handle on your economic understanding. If minimum wage were a million a year, do you think poverty would be more than a million a year or remain unchanged?

posing the hypothetical of a million a year minimum wage only demonstrates your inability to understand things, not anyone else's.

get a fucking grip with the hypotheticals and come join the rest of us in the real world.

 

[BigNBushy]

tell that to all those poor $12 an hour earners (like kynes) who you feel will be screwed if min wage goes up to $10.10.

Do you think 12 is better or worse if the minimum wage goes up to 10.1?

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

Do you think 12 is better or worse if the minimum wage goes up to 10.1?

why should we care about his wage you fucking commie

 

[UncleBuck]

Do you think 12 is better or worse if the minimum wage goes up to 10.1?

if your goal in life is $12 an hour, like kynes, then you can deal with what happens to you at that pay rate or pull yourself up by the bootstraps and make more.

 

[ginwilly]

good luck sweeping grease off the kitchen floor, dumbass.

kitchens in restaurants need almost professional cleaning every night, and at least every once in a while if you do not want to be condemned by the health department..

Not all kitchen jobs are equal, but if you don't like that analogy, pick another and it's just as true. Some jobs can be done by any monkey given enough bananas, Those jobs are either split among current workforce and added to their regular jobsor can be done by some kid willing to do it for what it's worth.

you guys worry so much about this hypothetical 17-18 year old kid and the kynes' of the world making $11.50 an hour, but then tell the guy working 40 hours a week at min wage to kick rocks.

two faced hypotheticalists..

Pad is the one who suggested paying minors a different level of min wage, take up with him, learn to read, try to add something to the debate.

posing the hypothetical of a million a year minimum wage only demonstrates your inability to understand things, not anyone else's.

get a fucking grip with the hypotheticals and come join the rest of us in the real world.

I see you conveniently avoided the question because you understand the concept and it flies in the face of your emotional outcries.
Would raising min wage bring people out of poverty or raise the imaginary line of poverty? Simple question.

 

[BigNBushy]

if your goal in life is $12 an hour, like kynes, then you can deal with what happens to you at that pay rate or pull yourself up by the bootstraps and make more.

I don't trade dollars for hours.

I charge a fee for a service. I draw a modest salary. And i get a cut of net.

But a lot of people are working for 12. And if everyone else was getting 10, their life gets harder.

No way around that bucko. .. and that's why your reply to this will be something about heroin and theft.

 

[UncleBuck]

Would raising min wage bring people out of poverty or raise the imaginary line of poverty? Simple question.

you are an idiot.

empirical data shows again and again and again that wages go up more than prices do, by far.

so it does bring people out of poverty.

you fucking clown.

 

[UncleBuck]

But a lot of people are working for 12. And if everyone else was getting 10, their life gets harder.

No way around that bucko. .. and that's why your reply to this will be something about heroin and theft.

my response will be the same as always.

kynes can pull himself up by the bootstraps and earn 13 if life gets so much tougher for him.

 

[ginwilly]

you are an idiot.

empirical data shows again and again and again that wages go up more than prices do, by far.

so it does bring people out of poverty.

you fucking clown.

then show that imperical data. You should be able to show a decrease in poverty every time min wage goes up and the poverty level remaining flat.

You can't just state things and have people believe you, don't forget, you are the guy with no credibility.

 

[UncleBuck]

then show that imperical data.

*empirical

you fucking three toothed racist hick.

a dozen eggs, august 1988: $0.909
a dozen eggs, august 2011: $1.711

+88%

gallon of milk, august 1995: $2.482 (restricted data set, sorry)
gallon of milk, august 2013: $3.448

+39%

bananas, june 1988: $0.501
bananas, june 2012: $0.605

+21%

coffee, march 1988: $2.634
coffee, march 2010: $3.565

+35%

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?ap



all of this while the min wage went from $3.35 to $7.25, meaning it more than doubled (+116%).

don't forget, you are the guy with no credibility.

that's what you think, you dumb racist hick.

 

[AlecTheGardener]

Buck's empirical evidence is how the buying power of a wage has decreased while the wages have remained level mostly.

Look at those prices! They demonstrate that the buying power of the dollar is degraded.

Every year I was in the service congress approved a raise that typically was at or slightly ahead of inflation. Why would they do that?

 

[ginwilly]

*empirical

you fucking three toothed racist hick.

a dozen eggs, august 1988: $0.909
a dozen eggs, august 2011: $1.711

+88%

gallon of milk, august 1995: $2.482 (restricted data set, sorry)
gallon of milk, august 2013: $3.448

+39%

bananas, june 1988: $0.501
bananas, june 2012: $0.605

+21%

coffee, march 1988: $2.634
coffee, march 2010: $3.565

+35%

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?ap


all of this while the min wage went from $3.35 to $7.25, meaning it more than doubled (+116%).



In 1988 poverty was around 6k a year, in 2014 it's around 15K a year.

Thanks again for inadvertently making the argument for me. It seems the poverty level and min wage rose together. How does that happen?




that's what you think, you dumb racist hick.

In 1988 poverty was around 6k a year, in 2014 it's around 15K a year.

Thanks again for inadvertently making the argument for me. It seems the poverty level and min wage rose together. How does that happen?

You're really not very good at this are you. Try to remove your emotional outbursts from the conversation and use the noggin for reason instead of name calling and you might actually be smarter today than you were yesterday.

 

[UncleBuck]

Buck's empirical evidence is how the buying power of a wage has decreased while the wages have remained level mostly.

Look at those prices! They demonstrate that the buying power of the dollar is degraded.

Every year I was in the service congress approved a raise that typically was at or slightly ahead of inflation. Why would they do that?

that's part of it.

prices go up whether min wage does or not. that's why we need to index min wage to inflation.

but when min wage goes up, prices do not go up as much. meaning min wage gives more buying power to consumers, which drives the economy and helps lift people out of poverty, if they so choose. some will choose not to, that is called freedom.

i just want to show these hysterical morons with their hypotheticals about million dollar min wages what idiots they are.

 

[UncleBuck]

In 1988 poverty was around 6k a year, in 2014 it's around 15K a year.

Thanks again for inadvertently making the argument for me. It seems the poverty level and min wage rose together. How does that happen?

You're really not very good at this are you. Try to remove your emotional outbursts from the conversation and use the noggin for reason instead of name calling and you might actually be smarter today than you were yesterday.

what point do you think you've made here?

increases in min wage increase buying power, the numbers bear it out. more buying power helps bring people out of poverty.