Aid to Israel rape of American taxpayer

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A lot of good stuff has been posted today.

I just want to commend you guys (johnnyO and MM :D) for being mature and having a conversation about politics and religion and not going off on a name calling tangent. :clap:

I have to concur with MM on a lot of issues here. I honestly don't see why we have to treat Israel like they are "the chosen people". I bet going into Iraq and possibly Afghanistan had something to do with Israel. Israel most likely feels a lot safer with the fact that we have military bases in these two countries now. We all know Iraq was an utterly bullshit war that we had no business in, to say the least.

I'm not an anti-Semite, but, I can honestly say "Screw Israel, why are they so important that we have to kiss their ass? And potentially induce WW3, and the USA would innately join a nuke war that would obliterate most of the world, while our "big wig" "representatives" hide away in buried bases under the earth, and unscathed from nuke warfare. In the mean time, the majority of the population has no where to hide and our genetics are ass good as gone.

I think the "problem" is the encroachment of Muslims into the "sacred" land of the Jews. I bet if the Jews/Israel had it their way, they would love for the USA to bomb all Muslim countries till the point of genocide.

I bet the world would look us in a better way if we just minded our own business more. Maybe our dollar would actually be worth a dollar, and not 50 cents. Who wants to have high regards to a foreign country that is on a power trip and might invade your country next because you "potentially harbor terrorists" and yada yada yada. What countries should respect our currency when our "Federal" Reserve is a private bank that can print millions of dollars at THEIR private will. How much money is actually in circulation and how much debt do we owe? You can thank Bush and his cronies for the hasty decisions and the leaching of the USA tax payers dollars to go to Dick Cheneys "former" company- Haliburton!

Yes, it all makes perfect sense. Dick Cheney was the "former" CEO of Haliburton. Haliburton is a profiteering warmonger that is "cost plus" incentive. Candidly, the more we(the USA) blow up cities and rebuild them, the more money this company leaches from the tax dollars. And Dick Cheney was the "FORMER" (notice the "" marks) CEO of the company that has devalued the American dollar in ~1/2 because we can't afford to pay this company and have to borrow money from China. Anyone else following me here? 911 was an inside job! Furthermore, we took out Iraqs dictator(Saddam H.) and replaced him with most likely a "president" that has strong ties to the USA and elites. Now, whos going to be profiteering of the Iraq oil and whatnot? Whos to say OPEC doesn't have a greater monopoly over the "free market" now. Anyone have any info to my inquisitions?

Why must our country put sanctions on countries because we disagree with them? Why must Americans be so arrogant, and think we are better than the rest of the world when we weren't brought up in those cultures and can't form a true understanding of them.


YouTube - If You're an American you should see THIS! for real (this is only 1.5 mins.. Watch it!)

Edit- Just my bitter opinions on the subject! HAHA, I blame the war(and Bush for going into the war) for our economic recession, and the seemingly exponential increase in gasoline(not to mention the inflated prices of everything else too)!

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
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We TaRdED

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Does anyone else feel me? Am I the only one that has to frugal because of the increased COST OF LIVING??

Anyone else put the pieces together? Does this make sense to anyone else?

We TaRdED said:
A lot of good stuff has been posted today.

I have to concur with MM on a lot of issues here. I honestly don't see why we have to treat Israel like they are "the chosen people". I bet going into Iraq and possibly Afghanistan had something to do with Israel. Israel most likely feels a lot safer with the fact that we have military bases in these two countries now. We all know Iraq was an utterly bullshit war that we had no business in, to say the least.

I'm not an anti-Semite, but, I can honestly say "Screw Israel, why are they so important that we have to kiss their ass? And potentially induce WW3, and the USA would innately join a nuke war that would obliterate most of the world, while our "big wig" "representatives" hide away in buried bases under the earth, and unscathed from nuke warfare. In the mean time, the majority of the population has no where to hide and our genetics are ass good as gone.

I think the "problem" is the encroachment of Muslims into the "sacred" land of the Jews. I bet if the Jews/Israel had it their way, they would love for the USA to bomb all Muslim countries till the point of genocide.

I bet the world would look us in a better way if we just minded our own business more. Maybe our dollar would actually be worth a dollar, and not 50 cents. Who wants to have high regards to a foreign country that is on a power trip and might invade your country next because you "potentially harbor terrorists" and yada yada yada. What countries should respect our currency when our "Federal" Reserve is a private bank that can print millions of dollars at THEIR private will. How much money is actually in circulation and how much debt do we owe? You can thank Bush and his cronies for the hasty decisions and the leaching of the USA tax payers dollars to go to Dick Cheneys "former" company- Haliburton!

Yes, it all makes perfect sense. Dick Cheney was the "former" CEO of Haliburton. Haliburton is a profiteering warmonger that is "cost plus" incentive. Candidly, the more we(the USA) blow up cities and rebuild them, the more money this company leaches from the tax dollars. And Dick Cheney was the "FORMER" (notice the "" marks) CEO of the company that has devalued the American dollar in ~1/2 because we can't afford to pay this company and have to borrow money from China. Anyone else following me here? 911 was an inside job! Furthermore, we took out Iraqs dictator(Saddam H.) and replaced him with most likely a "president" that has strong ties to the USA and elites. Now, whos going to be profiteering of the Iraq oil and whatnot? Whos to say OPEC doesn't have a greater monopoly over the "free market" now. Anyone have any info to my inquisitions?

Why must our country put sanctions on countries because we disagree with them? Why must Americans be so arrogant, and think we are better than the rest of the world when we weren't brought up in those cultures and can't form a true understanding of them.


YouTube - If You're an American you should see THIS! for real (this is only 1.5 mins.. Watch it!)

Edit- Just my bitter opinions on the subject! HAHA, I blame the war(and Bush for going into the war) for our economic recession, and the seemingly exponential increase in gasoline(not to mention the inflated prices of everything else too)!

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
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We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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medicineman said:
CC, Here's your sign: "The mind is like a parachute, it works better when it's open"
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HAHA Thats so true, and very funny MM, good joke :D


Guys, I have come to the conclusion of:


Fuck Israel, they are causing all of this middle easter problems in the first place! Our country has something very fond of Israel to be sending the people of that country welfare checks. What good is Israel doing for us? Ya, thats right. They aren't doing anything for the American people but cause trouble.

You are entitled to your "media" brainwashed rebuttals, but that is all they are- media brainwashed rebuttals. We have no business letting Israel suck on the USAs tits while they stir up shit for US with the rest of the world. Buts its the gov't that lets them, so where/who is the true problem here?

So fuck Israel, because we don't need to get into a NUKE war because of this favored country we call "Israel". You should all know that if the USA invades another country then other countries, like Russia, might try and nip (the world domination monger- the USA) it at the bud. AKA WW3.... World War 3, except this time with nukes!

Scary thought, I know... So tell everyone to stop getting brainwashed and spread the truth! If we all act like sheep than they gov't will be the wolves.. Mark my words.

The REVOLUTION has begun!

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~


 
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medicineman

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We TaRdED said:
HAHA Thats so true, and very funny MM, good joke :D


Guys, I have come to the conclusion of:


Fuck Israel, they are causing all of this middle easter problems in the first place! Our country has something very fond of Israel to be sending the people of that country welfare checks. What good is Israel doing for us? Ya, thats right. They aren't doing anything for the American people but cause trouble.

You are entitled to your "media" brainwashed rebuttals, but that is all they are- media brainwashed rebuttals. We have no business letting Israel suck on the USAs tits while they stir up shit for US with the rest of the world. Buts its the gov't that lets them, so where/who is the true problem here?

So fuck Israel, because we don't need to get into a NUKE war because of this favored country we call "Israel". You should all know that if the USA invades another country then other countries, like Russia, might try and nip (the world domination monger- the USA) it at the bud. AKA WW3.... World War 3, except this time with nukes!

Scary thought, I know... So tell everyone to stop getting brainwashed and spread the truth! If we all act like sheep than they gov't will be the wolves.. Mark my words.

The REVOLUTION has begun!

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
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I thought I explained this in a previous thread, one I took considerable flack for, for being a "rascist" which I'm not. The Jews own the Banks, the corporations, the US government and are very out front with their agenda, they want to control the world. I'm not trying to start an anti Jewish thread here, just an awareness of what Jewish leaders that have infiltrated every niche of our government want, they want money and power and have a pretty good start on having it all. There isn't really much we can do about it, maybe just vote in the Irish, like Kennnedy, but I believe them to be almost as corrupted, and I'm part Irish. Hold on folks, this next 5 years will probably determine the outcome of mankind on this planet. An old Indian friend of mine pretty much confirmed that for me 20 years ago. He said, don't worry about the year Y2K, it's the next 10-15 years that will tell the story, well maybe he meant just for me as I don't plan on living into my eighties, "one never knows what tomorrow will bring", an old irish proverb,~LOL~.
 
Seamaiden

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med, you are completely and totally a racist anti-Semite if I ever fucking saw one. Stomp and holler and yell that you ain't, all the while continuing to post the drivel you post. You go by a fucking last name, in AMERICA for Christ's sakes, and use THAT as proof of your point?
We TaRdED said:

Guys, I have come to the conclusion of:


Fuck Israel, they are causing all of this middle easter problems in the first place! Our country has something very fond of Israel to be sending the people of that country welfare checks. What good is Israel doing for us? Ya, thats right. They aren't doing anything for the American people but cause trouble.

You are entitled to your "media" brainwashed rebuttals, but that is all they are- media brainwashed rebuttals. We have no business letting Israel suck on the USAs tits while they stir up shit for US with the rest of the world. Buts its the gov't that lets them, so where/who is the true problem here?

So fuck Israel, because we don't need to get into a NUKE war because of this favored country we call "Israel". You should all know that if the USA invades another country then other countries, like Russia, might try and nip (the world domination monger- the USA) it at the bud. AKA WW3.... World War 3, except this time with nukes!

Scary thought, I know... So tell everyone to stop getting brainwashed and spread the truth! If we all act like sheep than they gov't will be the wolves.. Mark my words.
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Wetard, you CANNOT continue using the sources of information you have as factual information. I'm sorry, I really like you, but this shit is getting ridiculous. You CLEARLY haven't a clue as to the history of the region. God, there is SO MUCH for you, and med, to know about the region. I suggest you begin by learning a little about the Ottoman Empire, which is where the roots of our modern problems begin. Israel is NOT solely to blame for the current problems. If you really want to lay blame, begin with the Brits and French. The first terrorist acts were committed in Algeria. Find out why.

Find out how Israel came to be in the first place, and for the love of God, DON'T try to get that information from fucking YouTube. Please.
 
medicineman

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Med, you are completely and totally a racist anti-Semite if I ever fucking saw one. Stomp and holler and yell that you ain't, all the while continuing to post the drivel you post. You go by a fucking last name, in AMERICA for Christ's sakes, and use THAT as proof of your point?
Wait, what drivel. Tell me it's not true that the jews own the banks and the corporations. Tell me they don't just about own everything worth owning, including our own government. How else can you tell a jew if not by their last name. Let me apologise to any person that has a jewish sounding last name here and now that is not a Jew. Rascist, I guess if you call calling a spade a spade a rascist then I'd be one. If we were protecting Mexicans against the world and mexicans owned everything worth owning, including our government, then I'd be telling the world about it. If any ethnic minority had the world and our government by the balls and were starting shit accross the globe, I'd be calling a spade a spade. If you happen to be Jewish, I am not hateing on you, just the assholes that want to own me and everyone in the world. BTW, most of them are Jews.
 
mrbuzzsaw

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trishmybiscuits said:
The United States' aid to Israel not only shapes the face of politics in the Middle East and beyond, it also constitutes the rape of the American taxpayer:

Rape of American taxpayer
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you are so misinformed.

let me help you out for a second
unlike aid we give to almost Every other nation most aid if you wish to call it that comes right back into the USA .
Israel keeps plenty of US industries working. not to mention the Huge way Israel gives back.



unlike the rest of th4e middle east who only gives Oil.
Israel is Huge is bio genetics and life sciences.
that computer you are likely sitting on is using technology Developed in Israel.

Israel is what is known as A Good investment for America.

i think your problem is you buy propaganda spread by dumb morons who know nothing.
 
VTXDave

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mrbuzzsaw said:
unlike aid we give to almost Every other nation most aid if you wish to call it that comes right back into the USA .
Israel keeps plenty of US industries working. not to mention the Huge way Israel gives back.
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Which is exactly the point I made back on page 3 of this thread...
VTXDave said:
That being said, I do not support aid to Israel for a number of reasons. First, they don't need it. They have a thriving economy that includes many Hi Tech companies.
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I have no problem w/ trade relations w/ Israel...I have a problem with the fact that we have trade relations with Israel AND we supply them w/ aid.
 
ViRedd

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Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and is our long time ally. Because of the freedoms the citizens of Israel enjoy, Israel has a vibrant economy. By supporting Israel in the face of the hateful monsters that surround her, aren't we making a statement of principle?

Is it our standing up for the principled position of freedom, instead of barbarianism, that's really pissing the anti-Israel crowd off? Or is it just the fact that we ARE taking a stand, as a nation, on something at all? :blsmoke:

Vi
 
VTXDave

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ViRedd said:
Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and is our long time ally. Because of the freedoms the citizens of Israel enjoy, Israel has a vibrant economy. By supporting Israel in the face of the hateful monsters that surround her, aren't we making a statement of principle?

Is it our standing up for the principled position of freedom, instead of barbarianism, that's really pissing the anti-Israel crowd off? Or is it just the fact that we ARE taking a stand, as a nation, on something at all? :blsmoke:

Vi
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That'd be a valid question Vi if we were only providing Israel w/ aid. Such is not the case. We provide aid to Israel and their enemies alike. Very "unprincipled" in my opinion. We're funding hatred and war by proxy.
 
medicineman

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Seamaiden said:
The Jews do not own the world, med. Nor do they own 'just about everything worth owning.' Wow.
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Can you prove this? It certainly appears that they do, at least in America they do, Maybe not in Russia or some other countries but it's certainly true in America, who controls the diamond market? Jews. Who controls the Federal reserve? Jews. Who controls the gold market? Jews. I mean, look at anything worth owning and you'll find Jews at the top, It's not a rascist rant, it's the truth. May be a few scotch/Irish in there, I hope so for christs sake. Un fortunately, none are related to me,~LOL~.
 
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