Noopept

[high|hgih]

Oh yeah, I know that noopept in particular is prescribed in some countries for brain damage due to head trauma, drug usage and aging.
I don't know the exact sciences of it, but from what I've read about the racetams and noopept, they repair the brain and promote new growth.

I know it's helped my drug addled mind haha
look at them on bluelight and what not, they'll be more helpful than me. Heckler seems to know a good bit as well xD

 

[heckler73]

The unfortunate part about research in the Nootropics is the lack of robust studies. I've read perhaps a dozen papers over the last few months (none lately, mind you), and the studies are small with particular focus on short-term blood dosages in rats. They've also been put out by a small group of scientists, so there may be some biases in them, although not necessarily intentional.

I just started using them again after a 6 week break. I did find it wasn't until about 2 weeks ago (so a 4 week "hangover") where I noticed a loss of focus in lectures.
I'm now (day 2) taking ~500mg Oxi- & 1.0g of a 3:1 Piracetam/Choline mix (so ~750mg Piracetam, 250 Choline), 3x per day.
I may fiddle around with the Prami- again, but not until I feel a plateau from the current stack.
I was looking at my bag of Aniracetam today and just shrugged. I feel dubious about that one, still. I'm not sure if it's the way I was taking it (straight instead of in a capsule), but it doesn't feel like the other -racetams. It's still kept at hand, though, since I haven't given it a fair trial, yet.

As for memory effects? I don't know if they really help in directly locking memories in. If you have a functional memory, the -racetams will aid in processing information allowing for possibly better "priming" of memory function. Recall is also improved, but that is not exactly the same as memory in the input sense. And this leads back to the Noopept. It is the one which supposedly aids in locking memories. I have my doubts still.
I also lump it in the same class as Ani-.

Hmmm... that being said, perhaps I should test myself on the cambridge brain-games again, to see if there has been any lasting effect from the prior cycle. That's one source of data, at least, with a record in time.

 

[Walter Pang]

noopept as a nootropic drug, it's very common and popular, also these are many other nbootropics, such as piracetam, pramiracetam; alpha-gpc; coluracetam; prl-8-53; vinpocetine; N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid; Modafinil ;Adrafinil; Phenylpiracetam; Sunifiram; Pramiracetam Sulfate; Phenibut; Oxiracetam; Citicoline, etc, my email is tech@cimasci.com, welcome everyone to email, we guarantee the quality. thanks

 

[Walter Pang]

noopept as a nootropic drug, it's very common and popular, also these are many other nbootropics, such as piracetam, pramiracetam; alpha-gpc; coluracetam; prl-8-53; vinpocetine; N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid; Modafinil ;Adrafinil; Phenylpiracetam; Sunifiram; Pramiracetam Sulfate; Phenibut; Oxiracetam; Citicoline, etc, my email is tech@cimasci.com, welcome everyone to email me, we guarantee the quality. thanks

 

[high|hgih]

The unfortunate part about research in the Nootropics is the lack of robust studies. I've read perhaps a dozen papers over the last few months (none lately, mind you), and the studies are small with particular focus on short-term blood dosages in rats. They've also been put out by a small group of scientists, so there may be some biases in them, although not necessarily intentional.

I just started using them again after a 6 week break. I did find it wasn't until about 2 weeks ago (so a 4 week "hangover") where I noticed a loss of focus in lectures.
I'm now (day 2) taking ~500mg Oxi- & 1.0g of a 3:1 Piracetam/Choline mix (so ~750mg Piracetam, 250 Choline), 3x per day.
I may fiddle around with the Prami- again, but not until I feel a plateau from the current stack.
I was looking at my bag of Aniracetam today and just shrugged. I feel dubious about that one, still. I'm not sure if it's the way I was taking it (straight instead of in a capsule), but it doesn't feel like the other -racetams. It's still kept at hand, though, since I haven't given it a fair trial, yet.

As for memory effects? I don't know if they really help in directly locking memories in. If you have a functional memory, the -racetams will aid in processing information allowing for possibly better "priming" of memory function. Recall is also improved, but that is not exactly the same as memory in the input sense. And this leads back to the Noopept. It is the one which supposedly aids in locking memories. I have my doubts still.
I also lump it in the same class as Ani-.

Hmmm... that being said, perhaps I should test myself on the cambridge brain-games again, to see if there has been any lasting effect from the prior cycle. That's one source of data, at least, with a record in time.

Do it(you may have already)!
My oxiracetam ran out about 2 weeks ago and unfortunately, I bought more a few days ago, surprised it hasn't shown up yet. My phenylpiracetam did.

How would you describe the feeling of aniracetam exactly? I have yet to try it or pramiracetam. I read somewhere that -ani was more of an anxiolytic.
The difference between memory and recall were one in the same to me, didn't really distinguish the two in meh mind.. Recall is what I was describing though. What do you mean by memory-locking though? Because if your brain was better capable of memory-locking, then wouldn't the memory just be what you are differentiating as recall?

Phenylpiracetam is amazing. This is probably the most 'noticeable' nootropic that I have done. It gives light euphoria and a pretty decent energy boost. It is not like a stimulant by any means, but I will say that it is more 'stimulating' than the other nootropics I have tried. It suppresses my appetite a bit. Unfortunately the tolerance on it is evil. I'd say once every 3 days is a good break period.
I'm starting to stock up on nootropics because I am going to start going to school here either next semester or after summer. For now they are for my days off when I have my books

Have you tried adrafinil? My stack is this:
20-30mg noopept
500mg oxiracetam
300mg phenylpiracetam
10:1 Bacopa Monnieri : extract
~10 Intellect tree seeds

I am trying to build on it. It feels pretty perfect. I am curious about adrafinil because that would make a sub for the phenylpiracetam and intellect seeds since none are ideal to be taken daily. Regular piracetam I need to purchase because I remember how well that worked. It was pretty solid.
Bacopa Monnieri is something you should look into. Also I'd supplement with turmeric.
There are many, many benefits to those and they also coincide with nootropics.

It's crazy how much better at reading books and engaging in conversation I am when I take my stack. After I stopped taking it every day, I noticed a drop in.. Well, a lot of things. But it was not unpleasant or anything and I wouldn't necessarily call it a withdrawal either. It was really exactly what I had expected to happen. The thing about these is that you form habits. I started reading a lot more books when I first got into this. Along with a lot more guitar, general enthusiasm... More precise writing and communication. REFLEXES!..
When you practice these things and have a nootropic aiding you, it seems like the habits stick and when the nootropic is taken away you will still do the same things but notice somewhat of a handicap. It's not a real issue though. For me, I just know that I started to once again re-read paragraphs sometimes, can't remember what's on the tip of my tongue, not as much 'fluency' by all aspects(by nature I'm as graceful as a retarded horse with cerebral palsy)...

Now I have decided to not cut off the noopept and take it every day anyways. and the bacopa and choline too, but that's just because they're good for ya.

Another thing, microdosing with LSD was perfect for the stack. I only have done it once and it was wednesday. That was amazing. No tripping(I ate 1/8 of a hit), not even slightly. Just enough to seep in I could feel it. Perfect recipe! I will definitely be doing that once school starts up. Especially because I believe I'm going after something in the biology field. Trippy stuff in der.
My friend takes 1-3 HBWR seeds with his stack once a week and says it improves the whole day by such a noticeable extent. It makes sense. Ergos are meant for study or something.

Anything new?

 

[heckler73]

Interesting stuff you have there. I found (for me) it is better to use Nootropics as "enhancers", as opposed to a steady regimen. The main reason being, tolerance does develop quickly across the board (at least with -racetams).
I just finished my Oxi- (for a test).
I'll definitely be getting more of that (and Piracetam/Choline). I have not bothered to pick up the noopept again, just because I did not garner any noticeable benefit overall. It is either too subtle, or it just doesn't work with me, coupled with definite headaches (albeit, mild).

I recently tried the Aniracetam again, and I think you could be right in that it has anxiolytic effects mainly.

I was surprised when I had some prami- by itself a few days ago and felt the "surge" come on. It's a good thing I saved it since it may be useful after all, but it is definitely the most bitter of them. Strangely, they all go well in coffee (takes away the bitterness to some degree), except Ani- which is fat soluble.

I'm wary of the -finils because of something I came across re: negative side effects from Modafinil, specifically with the heart (possible arrhythmia inducer...I don't need that). Besides, I already use caffeine and nicotine, so I don't need added stimulants.

I'm glad to see you're still pushing boundaries in your quest. I think I found what I need in the basics, as described. However, you now have my curiosity piqued with the note about phenylpiracetam. I may have to give that a test, too.

As for "memory-locking", I meant just that. There are two stages to information processing I'm looking at; 1) input & 2) storage.
The recall is just the inversion of input, so the -racetams should aid with that. Storage is the wild card in my deck, and that is what I meant by "locking". The information becomes "hard-wired" into memory, in essence. That is the purported goal of the drug-classes like Noopept, or Gingko...however, I failed to see them increase what capacities I already have. But perhaps that is not my issue; rather, my main desire is to augment focus and short-term retention of complex & abstract concepts. That is, I don't want to re-read something from a prior page while on a roll with the subject matter. To which, the -racetams have aided me.

As for the Cambridge brain-tests, I haven't tested myself since late-August, when I began using the "stacks" more sporadically. I was making improvements every time, and when I did the tests up at the University (no THC), I nearly shit my pants with the scores I was achieving. In some tests I was scoring twice as high as when I was high (read that carefully ). I'll need to run a series of them this weekend (under Prami- & Pi- ) to see if/how my sporadic use has affected my scores.

In the end, based on reports from some colleagues and my research, the -racetams are the fundamental building blocks for any nootropic exploration. After that, it becomes like tweaking the suspension on a car, or parameters in an experiment; the extras just give little embellishments to the foundation and/or patch some "cracks" which may not be homogeneously distributed across a population, in the first place.