Best organic nutrients for vegging and flowering?

I want to use organic nutrients since i won't have to worry about pH levels and everything.
I'm going to be growing auto flowers, this is my first time growing. I know blood meal is a good source of nitrogen. And adding too much can burn it. Is there any other organic nutrients i could use?
 

Nullis

Moderator
Earthworm castings, compost, aerated compost tea, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, bone/fishbone meal, various guanos which are nutrient rich (can be over used), crab meal, rock phosphate, chicken manure... just to name a few.

A good start is Espoma Tone products. They sell these at virtually every hardware store/garden center in the US. Look for Bio-Tone Starter Plus or Garden-Tone, it is a blend of various natural ingredients and by-products, also has microbial inoculants.
 

m3d1c1n3man

Well-Known Member
just look at the npk levels.

bone meal for example is about 4-12-0 so that's a source of phosphorous, which is good in flower.

I agree go with Espoma, you can get it all on amazon.

go box is for hydroponics i believe.
 

robro

Active Member
As advised by Nullis above,Aerated Compost Teas are worth looking into.Heres a link to get you started-http://www.compostjunkie.com/making-compost-tea.html
You can make teas with nettles,comfrey,dandelion and many other plants that you can get for free if you have access to the countryside.Or from Amazon if you havnt.
I would advise using bought organic nutes to start with,while you do some research into making teas.Organic smoke is unbeatable.
Good luck with your grow BH.
 

Nullis

Moderator
General Organics is fine for soil as well; the supplements are good used as recommended (i.e. Bio-Root and Bio-Bud; Diamond Black which is a liquid humic acid extract). GO and Earth Juice (Grow, Bloom, Catalyst, Microblast) are both good for convenience, and either line of products can be useful to have around. When using Earth Juice, make sure your potting mix is properly limed. You can aerate Earth Juice prior to using (it'll bring the pH of the solution up after 36+ hours), and use in AACT with castings or humus.

In the past, it seemed cheaper to just buy the GO-Box, but this may not be the case any more and you don't really need all of the products. You could get powdered humic acid and kelp extract, or kelp meal and get more mileage out of them as opposed to the Diamond Black and Bio-Weed liquid products. CaMg+ is good to have if you use rain, reverse-osmosis, purified bottled or otherwise low TDS water. You probably only need 3-5 ml per gallon, so it can be made to last a while. Otherwise, use dolomitic limestone.

That leaves Bio-Marine (liquid squid fertilizer), each of the one-part Bio-Thrive formulas (Grow/Bloom) and the Bio-Root and Bio-Bud supplements (organic acids, rock phosphate, kelp and plant extracts, etc). Bio-Marine is probably what I use most frequently out of that entire line and you can use it in both Grow and Bloom, as well as for young plants.

What you and others should know, however, is that growing "organically" is about more than just changing the brand of fertilizer you use. In fact, it could be even simpler than that. There is more to organics than just "natural" versus "synthetic/chemicals", though. Organics is about living organisms. In fact, "organic" means "derived from living matter". In nature, plants derive their nutrition directly from or via the help of other organisms, particularly micro-organisms. As 'organic' or once living matter decays, as it does in compost, the result is humus and plant usable nutrients. Humus itself is essential to supporting plants in their natural environment for a variety of reasons (too many to list here now).

The more important thing to know is that microbes play a central role in extracting the nutrients out of soil, for plants. They live predominately in the rhizosphere, in direct contact with roots. They include bacteria/archaea, fungi (mushrooms, molds, yeasts), protozoans and nematodes. Microbes are either living in symbiotic association with plants, elsewhere in the soil, or they are eating other microbes in the soil (releasing nutrients within them). Certain bacteria and archaea fix Nitrogen out of thin air, along with everything else they do (e.g. produce antimicrobials, organic acids, plant growth hormones). Various fungi (mycorrhizae) live in intimate association with plant roots and go looking for water and minerals that would otherwise not be plant available (particularly phosphorous).

Other microbes benefit plants simply by not being bad, taking up space and releasing nutrients as products of their metabolism. Some microbes attack various plant pests/pathogens; microarthropods and even larger bugs also attack other insect pests (Hypoaspis mites attack other pests eggs, larval and pupal stages living in the soil, Lady Bugs and Praying Mantises eat a variety of pest insects including spider mites, thrips).

The bigger picture is that there is a food web here, the soil food web, and it works constantly to feed and protect plants.
 

er0senin

Well-Known Member
heyo!

Best organic fert is when you make it yourself!
But the bottled brands are not bad either. I tried General organics, Bio Bizz, Bac organics and Plant magic. The all preformed very alike. The best flavor in the buds came from plant magic and bio bizz nutritions. They were also at least 2x as concentrated as the other brands. Just my own experience

Peace yo
 

snailwagon

Active Member
Bottle fed stuff is cool, but for a short term plant like an auto flower you could easily let an rich organic soil "cook" for a month before using. Some will get really hot the first week. There is a plethora of raw stuff to mess with and really be organic. I love worm poop, greensand, soft rock phosphate, azomite, glacial rock dust, biochar, a buttload of microbe innoculants like PHC biopack, Dr. Earth Innoculant, and any endo/ecto mix, fish meal, Jamaican guano, fish bone meal, crab meal, alfalfa meal, granular dolomite, yucca powder, mixed with a coco base. Supplement with a fresh compost tea and enjoy. It gets expensive at first, but you don't really need to buy nutrients then. If you buy a bottle, the top three we have tested (besides the unobtainium BioCanna) are BioBizz, General Organics, and Roots Organics. Note, Earth Juice and Fox Farm stuff is predominately NOT organic. Especially not Earth Juice Grow and Bloom. The label and name just imply hippies and rainbows.
 

Nullis

Moderator
Earth Juice Original Grow and Bloom are certainly "organic"; they just don't pay to be certified OMRI any more. As a matter of fact the stuff is about as raw as it gets without doing AACT or using straight guano and amendments.
 
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