Open Show & Tell , Outdoors 2014

FresnoFarmer

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I aerate my water a minimum of 3 hours, and preferably 24hrs with 1/2tsp South Cascades SLF-100 per every 5 gallons. Currently I am using 2oz Canna BioVega 3-1-5, 1.1oz Natures Nurture 5-0-0, 35ml Cannazyme, 5ml Aptus Startboost, 4.5ml Aptus FaSilitator. I foliar with the Natures Nuture at 5ml per 64floz, and have recently started using epsom salt at 3ml per 64floz. I foliar feed them 3-4 times a day without the use of a surfactant.
maybe use some biodegradble dish soap as a surfactant. This will eliminate the need to spray so often.

That is alot of damn products lol. Seems to be working though.
 

FresnoFarmer

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Cross tying all those branches would be a bitch. You could cage em. Or buy some stakes and trellis netting and box them in this way. Easier than all the damn tying imo.
 

cobyb

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maybe use some biodegradble dish soap as a surfactant. This will eliminate the need to spray so often.

That is alot of damn products lol. Seems to be working though.
The frequency of foliar sprays is due to ambient humidity here. I do not like the idea of something smothering the lungs of the plant, and since I am doing this in the morning, mid-morn, mid afternoon, evening, should it not facilitate a more even uptake of nutrients over an extended period of time?
 

cobyb

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Cross tying all those branches would be a bitch. You could cage em. Or buy some stakes and trellis netting and box them in this way. Easier than all the damn tying imo.
Possibly, I'm just saying what I would do. There is more than one way to skin a cat...
What type of cage would you recommend? I have 2"x4" welded wire, stucco wire, chicken wire. I also have a range of lumber to choose from.
 

cobyb

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Cross tying would take me 2 rolls of bonsai wire. 12$ apiece. I use it now, to increase the footprint of the BlueDream and one of the Bubblegum.
 

FresnoFarmer

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The frequency of foliar sprays is due to ambient humidity here. I do not like the idea of something smothering the lungs of the plant, and since I am doing this in the morning, mid-morn, mid afternoon, evening, should it not facilitate a more even uptake of nutrients over an extended period of time?
the idea of the surfactant is to spread the solution more evenly across the foliage and to prevent beading, which inturn increases better uptake of nutrients and the solution stays wetter on the foliage longer so that the plants have a better chance of uptaking the nutrients. When you spray with out a surfactant the only part the might stay on the foliage for a sufficient amount of time might be the beaded part. The unbeaded solution might dry up because of wind and temperature. I foliar feed in the morning with a surfactant at between 68 and 72 degrees because I hear that is when the stoma are mostly open and I rinse at night with plain water to help uptake any nutrient residue.
 

FresnoFarmer

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I understand the humidity. I'm from fresno haha. But it isn't really necessary to spray that often. But it seems to be working for you.
 

cobyb

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the idea of the surfactant is to spread the solution more evenly across the foliage and to prevent beading, which inturn increases better uptake of nutrients and the solution stays wetter on the foliage longer so that the plants have a better chance of uptaking the nutrients. When you spray with out a surfactant the only part the might stay on the foliage for a sufficient amount of time might be the beaded part. The unbeaded solution might dry up because of wind and temperature. I foliar feed in the morning with a surfactant at between 68 and 72 degrees because I hear that is when the stoma are mostly open and I rinse at night with plain water to help uptake any nutrient residue.
Great advice I will reduce to 3 maximu,m with only a single cycle of each and a "flush" before bed.
I alternate between the N3 spray and the Epsom Salt spray but less could be an ok thing also.
Prior to using ES, I used the N3 2 times a day. The increase in frequency is due to the different ingredients.
 

fumble

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I wish it were closer 757...thanks though. I will be in Santa Rosa in a couple weeks if that is close?
 
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