WHODAT@THADOR
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lets start with steam?
Curing
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qwizoking
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It will denature sensitive terpenes and pyrolize some, breaking the structure. Loss of smell or having a burnt nutty taste will result (also common with vaporizers) Same as in the perfume industry. For example rose oil. Also enzymes important to creating and altering terpenes into corresponding terpenoids with a lower ppm sensory threshold are destroyed, this also stops the bud from breaking down and curing properly
WHODAT@THADOR
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Next...Let's run with Decarb?
qwizoking
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I said pick one! Lol
Each topic could be discussed in length..
You only want to decarboxylate weed your going to ingest, it also occurs naturally and properly cured weed with the correct time will be fully decarbed. When thc etc vaporizes off its instantly decarbed and doing it beforehand will reduce potency pretty drastically
Also the steam wouldn't decarb the herb at least not fully or efficiently. But it will cause a nice loss in volatile terps
Each topic could be discussed in length..
You only want to decarboxylate weed your going to ingest, it also occurs naturally and properly cured weed with the correct time will be fully decarbed. When thc etc vaporizes off its instantly decarbed and doing it beforehand will reduce potency pretty drastically
Also the steam wouldn't decarb the herb at least not fully or efficiently. But it will cause a nice loss in volatile terps
BobBitchen
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Lotta bad info out there...So, I talked to this cat here earlier who's opinion I respect and our conversation turned to his curing process and when I asked him why that isn't pinned he said it was to controversialso I wanna kno why it is so controversial and just wanna try to see both sides of the coin ok? So.....we discussed why its not necasary to flush if you are using hydro along with soluble chelated fertz.....As well as his drying room the runs a dehumidifier @ 10%rh for 48 hrs......then steams for a hour to 30% rh in buds to qoute em "This allows for full decarboxilation and turpine transition" So thats like a 3 day cure.... So, there it is whats your opinion?If he's wrong I would like a detailed explanation as to why?
Who
this is one of em... IMHO
Steam yer bud's ?
WHODAT@THADOR
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Right qwiz but in my very first post I said I wanted to hear the otherside of the coin?? its not like I have ran out and stuck a plant in a steamroom and its not like im advising anybody to go do it?? And why would I sift through countless pages of I over dried my buds to look this info up....All day I would rather put up something to get direct info from experienced growers.....@ no time in this did I put myself in the realm of "educated on pot".......This is how I choose to educate myself feel me? Not going through months of threads where you dont kno anything bout half the people posting and ya only get one bit of info. Im sorry but I'm kinda sittin in butthurtville over how you reponded
...LOL but I put some ice on it ..... If you wish to continue with any of the others I would appreciate it.....and I'm still gonna try it out with a handful of buds......
Ps:I made a note to change my spelling
...LOL but I put some ice on it ..... If you wish to continue with any of the others I would appreciate it.....and I'm still gonna try it out with a handful of buds......Ps:I made a note to change my spelling
DemonTrich
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dry clean your clothes, NOT your medicine you worked hard on growing all that time.
theres a fool proof TEK on curing your medicine at the top of the page. why reinvent the wheel, when the one we have has been working excellent since the caveman days.
theres a fool proof TEK on curing your medicine at the top of the page. why reinvent the wheel, when the one we have has been working excellent since the caveman days.
WHODAT@THADOR
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"I find that when dried too fast the moisture is not even in the bud. Curing allows it to even out. Not only that, chlorophyll from the growing stage along with sugars make it real harsh. THC also has a maturation time during curing. Why do you feel curing has no value? This is why they cure fine cigars."
bullshit. if you aren't over fertilizing or using products that are taken up by the plant that can't be metabolized, there is no need for a cure.
ever had cured tomatoes? cucumbers? corn? lettuce?
if you want to talk dry product, how about tobacco? it dries in an aerated overheated barn, and once down to acceptable moisture levels, is processed, and packaged. cigars suck, and old stagnant tobacco is something snobs pay for because it has a hefty price tag...
bullshit. if you aren't over fertilizing or using products that are taken up by the plant that can't be metabolized, there is no need for a cure.
ever had cured tomatoes? cucumbers? corn? lettuce?
if you want to talk dry product, how about tobacco? it dries in an aerated overheated barn, and once down to acceptable moisture levels, is processed, and packaged. cigars suck, and old stagnant tobacco is something snobs pay for because it has a hefty price tag...
Not reinventing just curious..
WHODAT@THADOR
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Ignore the thread @ top accidental post
qwizoking
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keeping the plant moist enough to stay alive and still maintain gass transfer keeping stomatas open..through this natural process of hydrolysis and respiration the components are broken down and becomes smooth..this process is known as the cure.
We do this with many crops, sweet potatoes tobacco etc etc
Night and day difference in curing ..
Reduction in Chlorophyll content, doesn't taste like smoking veggies
Reduction in plant starch content,and sugars, creating a smooth smoke that will just expand nicely in your lungs, won't even feel it go down
Reduction in nitrate levels,less carcinogenic, always good right and cleaner high/taste
polycyclic aromatization and oxidation of terpenoids altering the flavor profile more robust with a lower ppm sensory threshold , less perfumey even soapy or "green" from corresponding aldehydes and ketones
Reduction of and consistent moisture content, even slow burn and no smoldering or black ash unwilling to burn
mold of any type won't typically grow under 60% humidity(what we cure at). I keep my area about 40-50 during the dry. you want it as moist as
possible basically but still
allow gas transfer, meaning jarring to slow the dry isn't beneficial. And jarring too wet typically causes tea smelling buds from it breaking down without offgassing
I dry at or under 70° below low 60°s enzyme activity etc is slowed too much and the plant doesn't break down fast enough. over about 77-80 and lighter flavorful compounds are lost. if kept moist higher temps wil increase bacteria and decomposition, will yellow the bud..like tobacco or brick weed. unlike tobacco thc is not a nitrate and fairly volatile ..Ever had an uncured sweet potatoe?
Tobacco is cured for a very long time and at different stages. Learning about tobacco curing and how nutes affect the burn qualities can really improve your bud..
We do this with many crops, sweet potatoes tobacco etc etc
Night and day difference in curing ..
Reduction in Chlorophyll content, doesn't taste like smoking veggies
Reduction in plant starch content,and sugars, creating a smooth smoke that will just expand nicely in your lungs, won't even feel it go down
Reduction in nitrate levels,less carcinogenic, always good right and cleaner high/taste
polycyclic aromatization and oxidation of terpenoids altering the flavor profile more robust with a lower ppm sensory threshold , less perfumey even soapy or "green" from corresponding aldehydes and ketones
Reduction of and consistent moisture content, even slow burn and no smoldering or black ash unwilling to burn
mold of any type won't typically grow under 60% humidity(what we cure at). I keep my area about 40-50 during the dry. you want it as moist as
possible basically but still
allow gas transfer, meaning jarring to slow the dry isn't beneficial. And jarring too wet typically causes tea smelling buds from it breaking down without offgassing
I dry at or under 70° below low 60°s enzyme activity etc is slowed too much and the plant doesn't break down fast enough. over about 77-80 and lighter flavorful compounds are lost. if kept moist higher temps wil increase bacteria and decomposition, will yellow the bud..like tobacco or brick weed. unlike tobacco thc is not a nitrate and fairly volatile ..Ever had an uncured sweet potatoe?
Tobacco is cured for a very long time and at different stages. Learning about tobacco curing and how nutes affect the burn qualities can really improve your bud..
WHODAT@THADOR
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Tobacco is only cured for a "Very Long time" with cigars not cigarettes ....If you check out Phillip Morris go to investor relations and poor over the 13's to find the documents on the turnaround of there crops...Not to start a bitch fit here I am very interested and researching the facts you are laying out to me they are much appreciated....But I've grown fungus's long enough(double digit kinda time) to know that there are more ways to skin a cat then 1 and thats all I want to kno with curing....