Is America's 54% Support of Legalized Marijuana a Lie?
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Red1966
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You finger yourself for being a liberal. You clearly are political. Your denials do not ring true.Dude quit trying to finger me for being a liberal just because I don't like Fox's style. I'm not a political person and I don't associate with any political party. I'm guessing this is a touchy subject, it usually is for conservative right wing douchebags.
gabechihua
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How the hell does not liking Fox make me a liberal? I'll repeat it one more time, because obviously I'm dealing with a couple of thick skulls. I don't like politics and I don't like the channel.
gabechihua
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This isn't the politics forum.
bigbuddin84
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I do find it hilariously amusing when I come to threads like these and people say things like "Faux News", and "I'm not biased one way or the other" in the same statement. Not that I saw it here. But I smelled hints of it. Just amusing is all.
gabechihua
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Wow, just wow. I can't believe this is the third person that can't figure this out. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you have a biased opinion. In order for my opinion to be biased I would have to say I only like liberal media, but hate Fox. I already stated I don't affiliate with any political party and don't watch any kind of political media.
UncleBuck
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you'd be surprised by the number of fox news devotees we have around here.Wow, just wow. I can't believe this is the third person that can't figure this out. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you have a biased opinion. In order for my opinion to be biased I would have to say I only like liberal media, but hate Fox. I already stated I don't affiliate with any political party and don't watch any kind of political media.
they hate it when you blaspheme the altar at which they worship.
gabechihua
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Yeah, it's starting to look like it. I regret responding to red's initial post, I didn't think it was going to turn into all this shit. All I was trying to say is Fox is all right wing all the time and that's why they're not widely accepted as a credible news source. I should have known it was gonna ruffle the feathers of the die hard right wingers, they hate it when you trash their beloved garbage.
Red1966
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You don't watch Fox, but hate it anyway? Fox is the the most widely watched cable news network, drawing more viewers than all other US based networks combined. You're making statements that are untrue to support your bias. Yes, bias. You single out Fox for criticism while ignoring all the others. You should know thyself.
gabechihua
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Is calling the rest of the competition crap singling out Fox? Oh yeah, I'm real biased.
ayr0n
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Not sure why my post got deleted...got a conservative mod? 
There's a couple quotes of it still lurking n the thread if you'd like to finish your cleanup job...
http://rollitup.org/t/is-americas-54-support-of-legalized-marijuana-a-lie.839702/#post-10785070
http://rollitup.org/t/is-americas-54-support-of-legalized-marijuana-a-lie.839702/#post-10784859
There's a couple quotes of it still lurking n the thread if you'd like to finish your cleanup job...
http://rollitup.org/t/is-americas-54-support-of-legalized-marijuana-a-lie.839702/#post-10785070
http://rollitup.org/t/is-americas-54-support-of-legalized-marijuana-a-lie.839702/#post-10784859
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gabechihua
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I know all the Fox devotees love to point to this fact. Just as much as I love showing them just how many people are actually tuning in. Just some facts from Wikipedia...
"In 2008, in the 25-54 age group, Fox News had an average of 557,000 viewers, but dropped to 379,000 in 2013 while increasing its overall audience from 1.89 million in 2010 to 2.02 million in 2013. The median age for Fox News viewers is listed as 65+ as Nielsen does not give exact figures for ages over 65."
So It looks like about .1% of Americans age 25-54 are tuning in. Ooh, I'm impressed. The Miley Cyrus special that was on NBC a couple months ago drew about 7 times more viewers. Face it cable news sucks and America knows it.
Red1966
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Still running down Fox, while trying to claim you're unbiased.
And your figures are false. Here are the actual numbers from yesterday. Note Fox is more than double MSNBC. Miley Cyrus isn't a news channel. Why even bring it up?
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for Monday, August 11, 2014
Total Day P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN 1,229 266 523
CNN 656 207 325
MSNBC 362 91 152
CNBC 127 30 48
FBN 53 8 23
HLN 313 125 198
And your figures are false. Here are the actual numbers from yesterday. Note Fox is more than double MSNBC. Miley Cyrus isn't a news channel. Why even bring it up?
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for Monday, August 11, 2014
Total Day P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN 1,229 266 523
CNN 656 207 325
MSNBC 362 91 152
CNBC 127 30 48
FBN 53 8 23
HLN 313 125 198
gabechihua
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Oh OK I guess Wikipedia is lying, you probably think they're biased too. Hey red, did you miss the post where I said I find Fox to be more nauseating than the rest? That's not a biased opinion that's an honest opinion, just the way I feel. Did you also miss the post where I explained the difference between being biased and just plain hating Fox. I do not prefer to watch any other station over Fox therefore I cannot be biased. Do I have to keep repeating myself, I hate every single last one of them. How about I start a thread devoted to trashing cable news in general? Would that make you happy red?
Hey red, did you miss the post where I said I find Fox to be more nauseating than the rest? That's not a biased opinion that's an honest opinion, just the way I feel. Did you also miss the post where I explained the difference between being biased and just plain hating Fox. I do not prefer to watch any other station over Fox therefore I cannot be biased. Do I have to keep repeating myself, I hate every single last one of them. How about I start a thread devoted to trashing cable news in general? Would that make you happy red?
gabechihua
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Are these the words of a biased person?
TakeTheTicket
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I think plenty of people personally support the idea of legalization. The problem is that so many people are worried about fitting in with the status quo that they won't ever publicly voice their support. Some people are so full of "Reefer Madness" misinformation that they believe the country will descend into madness if we legalize it. Others think there will be a shitload of workplace accidents.
As far as the 54% figure? Who knows. I think a better litmus test of acceptance would be to ask business owners if they would fire employees for using marijuana. Who cares if it's legal if you can still lose your job/career over it?
Urine tests need to be thrown out. They need a new test that is similar to a breathalyzer which can determine if I'm under the influence right now. If they can't prove that I smoked weed in the last few hours then the test doesn't mean shit for "workplace safety" or insurance or whatever their excuse is for drug testing.
As for news: Both FoxNews and MSNBC are terrible, they both represent extreme political views. FoxNews is for rednecks, racists and old white men. MSNBC is just... bad. The reason that psychos like Bill Oreilly are still on TV is because they get people talking. Even if that talk is about how crazy Bill is. He purposely says controversial things just to get people riled up.
I'll occasionally watch the local evening news, but I always read from multiple sources before forming an opinion about a story. I see the news as an alerter and a distracter. Sometimes its useful to alert you to certain events, and you can do your own research on the subject. Other times news stories exist solely to distract you from other events.
As far as the 54% figure? Who knows. I think a better litmus test of acceptance would be to ask business owners if they would fire employees for using marijuana. Who cares if it's legal if you can still lose your job/career over it?
Urine tests need to be thrown out. They need a new test that is similar to a breathalyzer which can determine if I'm under the influence right now. If they can't prove that I smoked weed in the last few hours then the test doesn't mean shit for "workplace safety" or insurance or whatever their excuse is for drug testing.
As for news: Both FoxNews and MSNBC are terrible, they both represent extreme political views. FoxNews is for rednecks, racists and old white men. MSNBC is just... bad. The reason that psychos like Bill Oreilly are still on TV is because they get people talking. Even if that talk is about how crazy Bill is. He purposely says controversial things just to get people riled up.
I'll occasionally watch the local evening news, but I always read from multiple sources before forming an opinion about a story. I see the news as an alerter and a distracter. Sometimes its useful to alert you to certain events, and you can do your own research on the subject. Other times news stories exist solely to distract you from other events.
gabechihua
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Oh and red, one thing you do need to realize about those ratings is that Fox attracts a ton of media watchdog types who agree with nothing the channel spews. I used to tune in just to laugh at the ridiculousness of the bias. There are quite a few who tune in nightly for the same reason. Those viewers who are not fans of the channel count in the ratings, so the ratings can be a bit misleading.