ill get some pics up after i water
The idea of synthetic feeding the plant...organic feeding the soil...im glad you enjoyed the read, seems like everybody did. maybe ill do another write up and focus on P or K transpiration instead. yes your absolutely right you must find the right balance in your soil. good old fashioned homemade compost is very conducive to microbial life. ill be perfectly honest with you im not an organics expert (MD914 may be the person to ask about organic soil. i just use bagged stuff from the hydro store, don't have time to fool with my own soil mixes really and the bagged stuff seems to work great (pro mix) and i just started trying a brand called lucky dog???? i think its called fox farm makes it and it seems to work just as well or a little better than the pro mix.
as far as organics feeding the microbes and synthetics feed the plant, dont buy into that theory! there is nothing to support that claim scientifically. NO3 is NO3 and is assimilated through the roots just the same whether its from a natural source or artificial. the microbes i discussed will draw N straight out of the air, combine it with hydrogen and convert it through a series or processes to NO3 which is the usable form of N that a plant can use. NO3 is the nitrogen that u find in any fertilizer its immediately available to the plant.
some of the microbes will produce ammonia directly (which is oxidized into NO2 then to NO3) using carbohydrates directly from the plant as well as directly receiving amino acids from the plant. thats kind of like magic at the moment, nobody fully understands that particular process as of yet. see how microbe and plant scratch each others back? given that knowledge it makes perfect sense that you want to supplement carbs somehow to the plant, either molasses, sweet (what i use) or something of that nature. if your serious about all of this you can use some of the plants fluids in a sugar refractometer like farmers use for corn and monitor the plants sucrose production. i think i put a picture up of Great White its the live microbial dust that i find works best so far. it has many many different species both aerobic and anaerobic microbes. thrichoderma seems to be one of the more important ones to the process and this stuff has several types in it. i apply it every few weeks. i will also take a couple handfuls of dirt out of pots from my last harvest and mix it into the fresh soil. i do this because certain species thrive and others will die (natural selection in my pots lol) you will also get random microbes just from your own environment in there that u cant buy in a bottle so its kinda like mixing a petri dish into fresh soil or keeping a great yeast alive.
hope that explains a little better..... im all ears and here to serve if i can help out
Itd be cool if you did a P and K one please do those sometime if you get time id be quite interested! Im going to be using compost for this seasons upcoming outdoor grow so it sounds like itl be very beneficial. How long does it take for all of this process to take place? Im thinking about preparing my plots and soil a month or two before I plant them to let all those microbes and things do their job? I think Im with you now I fully understand what you've said thanks for explaining, its all very interesting. One more question, how does the molasses work or what does it do for the plant, I heard it speeds up its metabolism?im glad you enjoyed the read, seems like everybody did. maybe ill do another write up and focus on P or K transpiration instead. yes your absolutely right you must find the right balance in your soil. good old fashioned homemade compost is very conducive to microbial life. ill be perfectly honest with you im not an organics expert (MD914 may be the person to ask about organic soil. i just use bagged stuff from the hydro store, don't have time to fool with my own soil mixes really and the bagged stuff seems to work great (pro mix) and i just started trying a brand called lucky dog???? i think its called fox farm makes it and it seems to work just as well or a little better than the pro mix.
as far as organics feeding the microbes and synthetics feed the plant, dont buy into that theory! there is nothing to support that claim scientifically. NO3 is NO3 and is assimilated through the roots just the same whether its from a natural source or artificial. the microbes i discussed will draw N straight out of the air, combine it with hydrogen and convert it through a series or processes to NO3 which is the usable form of N that a plant can use. NO3 is the nitrogen that u find in any fertilizer its immediately available to the plant.
some of the microbes will produce ammonia directly (which is oxidized into NO2 then to NO3) using carbohydrates directly from the plant as well as directly receiving amino acids from the plant. thats kind of like magic at the moment, nobody fully understands that particular process as of yet. see how microbe and plant scratch each others back? given that knowledge it makes perfect sense that you want to supplement carbs somehow to the plant, either molasses, sweet (what i use) or something of that nature. if your serious about all of this you can use some of the plants fluids in a sugar refractometer like farmers use for corn and monitor the plants sucrose production. i think i put a picture up of Great White its the live microbial dust that i find works best so far. it has many many different species both aerobic and anaerobic microbes. thrichoderma seems to be one of the more important ones to the process and this stuff has several types in it. i apply it every few weeks. i will also take a couple handfuls of dirt out of pots from my last harvest and mix it into the fresh soil. i do this because certain species thrive and others will die (natural selection in my pots lol) you will also get random microbes just from your own environment in there that u cant buy in a bottle so its kinda like mixing a petri dish into fresh soil or keeping a great yeast alive.
hope that explains a little better..... im all ears and here to serve if i can help out
molasses just adds carbohydrates to the soil that you plant can metabolize it is the same thing as using sweet and flora nectar things of that nature
yes i agree. 600watt ive personally seen yield up to around 2 lbs
yea thats what i do. my plants use a lot more water the latter it gets but i cut back on watering to once every 3-4 days. up till late flowering i water every other daySorry Bubba...after catching up on your thread I think I misunderstood what you were asking me
I do slow down on my watering as harvest time approaches...I don't let them dry out too much though
and sure i dont mind writing up a page about PK just give me until i have a day when im stoned and feeling extra scientifically frisky
. which is usually often lol nothing turns me on quite like talking about monomer and dimer protein chains! hhehe
pretty sure plants can not metabolize molasses. bennies in the soil can though
they use the simple sugars in the molasses. plus the microbes will use it to produce ammonia ions as to not have to pull carbs from the plant
I use molasses in my teas, not for my plants but for the microbes
yes in my personal opinion, sugar supplementation has more of a direct benefit on microbial life than it does on the plantI use molasses in my teas, not for my plants but for the microbes
hehe yes always buffer PH before adding to soil. i never use molasses tho im a Sweet sorta man myself
i water at 6.3 every time pretty much however i also, during flower, walk my PH up and down between 6.1 and 6.4 helps to break down all kinds of different elements and in turn prevents lock outs
So can you just use any molasses or does it have to be specifically for plants?
Haha nothing like stoned science! Blows your mind hahah Anymore plant updates?and sure i dont mind writing up a page about PK just give me until i have a day when im stoned and feeling extra scientifically frisky
