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[ThePretender1982]

here are two pics showcasing the lighting arrangement and proximity to the plants. One is with lights the other is without lights. Let me know what you think. As always thanks for all your opinions and advice.

 

[ThePretender1982]

I think my plants are going to be ok, even the one that was drooping badly.

I've had the plants now for pretty much all of april, gotten some nice growth out of them, and am curious as to when it would be safe to start giving them some nutrients, and how often.

Also, Molasses, I'm confused on some of the threads I've read. Would it be beneficial to feed with a water/molasses/nutrient solution, or should I just keep it at something like a water/nute feeding and molasses/water once or twice a week?

Should that be all through veg and flowering, only veg, only flowering?

Also, would one of those DIY CO2 generators be of any use to me?

Thanks guys.

 

[videoman40]

Hey Dude...I don't believe that co2 will be of much use to you. Molasses is used during the flowering stage. Two tablespoons per gallon every 2 weeks.

The thing with co2 is it seems to be an ongoing debate, my feelings from exp and research is that you need a high light environment. It does work though if you have the correct environment, my babies grew about 1.5 inches in 8 hours today, using co2.

If you want a low cost method, and care to try it, here is a recipe for a home made brew:
Items Required:
* 10lb. white sugar
* 5 gallon clean bucket W/lid
* 4 1/2 gallons of water
* A piece of toast browned and hard
* A table spoon of dry active yeast (for baking bread)

First boil the water, (this will ensure clean water) remove from the heat and add the sugar. Stir until sugar dissolves. Let cool until water is room temperature (if you don't let it cool down it won't work).

After the sugar water has cooled, float the piece of toast on top of the water. Now, empty the tablespoon of yeast over the toast. After a few days, the yeast will take over the toast and start making bubbles (CO2) in the bucket. After a week, the amount of bubbling (CO2) will increase.

Keep the lid airtight on the bucket. CO2 travels up the dispersion tubing, and due to it being heavier than air, falls directly onto your plants. Timing your exhaust, is essential in maintaining an effective level of CO2.

Mind you, I've never tried a home made method of adding co2, but I am sure that this will produce co2.

I wish you luck in your grow!
Peace

 

[ThePretender1982]

VM, thanks so much for getting back to me so quickly, I think I may try the CO2, just for shits and giggles. Did you see any concerns with lighting, and how close it was to the plants? Someone else had suggested that maybe they were too close, but I'm worried about stretch....or is it too late in the game for that?

 

[videoman40]

Dude, happy to help ya!! Try the co2, what do you got to loose, not much.
I wouldn' move them back, keep em close, but you may need a fan blowing across them. Osciating fans are best.
So that they blow on empty space, than blow across the plant(s), than blow across empty space again. Than they do it again. This mimicks mother nature.
More lighting is always better dude.
Peace

VM, thanks so much for getting back to me so quickly, I think I may try the CO2, just for shits and giggles. Did you see any concerns with lighting, and how close it was to the plants? Someone else had suggested that maybe they were too close, but I'm worried about stretch....or is it too late in the game for that?

 

[babygro]

here are two pics showcasing the lighting arrangement and proximity to the plants. One is with lights the other is without lights. Let me know what you think. As always thanks for all your opinions and advice.

Don't waste your time with co2 with that lighting arrangement - you have far more pressing problems to deal with.

Firstly, remove that tin foil and use some mylar or flatt matt white paint, that foil is a waste of time. Secondly, sort out those thin weak stems, I suggest you repot them into fresh soil and bury most of that thin stem in the soil up to about an inch from the first set of leaves. Thirdly, when you put it back under the lights - put a small oscillating fan in there to gently blow on the plants to help strengthen the stems up.

 

[ThePretender1982]

Don't waste your time with co2 with that lighting arrangement - you have far more pressing problems to deal with.

Firstly, remove that tin foil and use some mylar or flatt matt white paint, that foil is a waste of time. Secondly, sort out those thin weak stems, I suggest you repot them into fresh soil and bury most of that thin stem in the soil up to about an inch from the first set of leaves. Thirdly, when you put it back under the lights - put a small oscillating fan in there to gently blow on the plants to help strengthen the stems up.

Far more pressing problems?

I suppose I ought to try the mylar, I actually just did repot them, from a rubbermaid container, I'm extremely hesitant to repot them again, I think I may kill them. Do you think I could just add more soil on top and form a mound? Would that be ok?, And there is a fan in there. Unfortunately I just didn't get it in the picture as it's moved back a bit. Thanks for your advice babygro

 

[ThePretender1982]

I've had that damn fan on there the whole grow....do you guys think something else is wrong?

 

[killertomatoes]

here are two pics showcasing the lighting arrangement and proximity to the plants. One is with lights the other is without lights. Let me know what you think. As always thanks for all your opinions and advice.

Hey, yea I got a look at your lights, you might want to back them off a little for a couple days to see if you can get some better results with your leaves.

your plants are farther along than mine, im not a pro, but they might stretch less since they are a little further along.

My CFLs are larger compared to yours, but you have quantity. even those little bulbs can burn in masses. mine are back about 6+ inches, but yours might need less/more depending on other conditions, fan, heat etc. hopefully that helps out a little. good luck.

 

[ThePretender1982]

Hey, yea I got a look at your lights, you might want to back them off a little for a couple days to see if you can get some better results with your leaves.

your plants are farther along than mine, im not a pro, but they might stretch less since they are a little further along.

My CFLs are larger compared to yours, but you have quantity. even those little bulbs can burn in masses. mine are back about 6+ inches, but yours might need less/more depending on other conditions, fan, heat etc. hopefully that helps out a little. good luck.

Thanks so much for your advice....I had a small fan blowing across them, and I went out and bought a larger fan for them. It's blowing on it's gentlest setting and sticking my hand between the light and the top of my plants I barely feel heat at all....I really don't think I'm having a light/heat issue.

Does anyone think my plants are trying to tell me it's time to start nuting?

 

[ThePretender1982]

Hey guys, I've got these two brown spots on my leaves...both on different plants in the lower older foilage. I've been looking at some of the problem threads and I think this is a nute issue. However, I'm not comfortable diagnosing the problem on my own. Any help is appreciated.

 

[ThePretender1982]

Here's the smaller spot...it wouldn't let me post two on the same reply for some reason.

 

[FirstTimeGrow]

Are your bulbs true 75w bulbs or 75w replacements?

Also, you need some cardboard covered in mylar, or something to reflect the light back into your plants. It looks like they are in the corner with just the lights over them.

There is so much light escaping from the sides and top, so definitely work on getting some kind of reflection going on.

 

[ThePretender1982]

My bulbs are the 75 watt replacements, and yeah I'm working on a reflector. Thank you so much for your comments.

Has anybody seen the brown spots on the leaves pics? I was wondering about those.

 

[ThePretender1982]

so no one? Big brown spots....anyone?