Can one be gay and not know it?

[EarthlyPassions]

If there's anything I've learned from the gay community, it's that sexuality is complicated. It's perfectly likely that you could be just about anything. So just relax, and be open to yourself.

 

[Woomeister]

Of course you could. Who here knows everything about themselves? It takes a lot of introspection to figure out who you really are. It's all about what your ego tries to identify with and what it doesn't. Your ego only wants an identity.

navel gazing is not needed to discover you are gay, freedom from your normal surroundings is, ie going to uni is where most discover/confirm it.

 

[Stoney McFried]

I have an idea. Buy a butt plug and try it to see if you like that.Then perhaps an actual dick shaped dildo, and see if that turns you on.If you like that, then try it with a real guy, and see if that does it for you.

See, sexually I only think about females... But I'd rather live with a dude... If that makes any sense...
Hopefully DMT can help me figure it out. I could just be an extremely sexist straight guy... :shrugs:

 

[Conoclast]

To us guys the concept of liking another guy makes us somewhat 'afraid' since homosexuality is kind of 'bad' for us. I mean even as insults, guys would call you a homo but I never hear girls calling each other homos so I think it'd be a bigger deal for a guy. You may be bi and just afraid that you may be gay, not that there's anything wrong, or you may just be gay. Since you said that sexually you only like females I don't know, it's kind of complicated. I tried kissing guys and it didn't really bother me so I don't really see myself as 100% straight, the idea of having intercourse with a guy makes me kind of cringe, but on the otherhand a 3some with two guys and a girl doesn't really bother me THAT much, I just don't want my girl to be fucked by another man ^^ lol. Just be comfortable with yourself and don't let others bring you down about your sexual ortientation. You'll get to figure it out with time.

 

[FlandersFlash]

Stoney,
Take some time and google "pegging" Anal play has NOTHING to do with homosexuality. It can, but it is certainly not exlusive. The male anus is a collection of a gazilion nerve endings and it very pleasurable to be touched there. Inside is the prostrate gland which is almost like a female clitoris.
Expand your mind, Sunshine!!

 

[crazy-mental]

if you have to ask, then i think you could be.
nevermind, its not the end of the world, just women.lolkiss-assgo on suck it.

 

[Gaines04]

here is a test, think of a dudes balls smacking on the back of your ass. If that dont make you cringe like it does me, then yes you are gay.

and I dont judge by the way if you are, thats fine by me Good luck

LOL..That first line was fucking hilarious...I am cringing like a motherfucker right now... lmao

 

[MoePunn]

To us guys the concept of liking another guy makes us somewhat 'afraid' since homosexuality is kind of 'bad' for us. I mean even as insults, guys would call you a homo but I never hear girls calling each other homos so I think it'd be a bigger deal for a guy. You may be bi and just afraid that you may be gay, not that there's anything wrong, or you may just be gay. Since you said that sexually you only like females I don't know, it's kind of complicated. I tried kissing guys and it didn't really bother me so I don't really see myself as 100% straight, the idea of having intercourse with a guy makes me kind of cringe, but on the otherhand a 3some with two guys and a girl doesn't really bother me THAT much, I just don't want my girl to be fucked by another man ^^ lol. Just be comfortable with yourself and don't let others bring you down about your sexual ortientation. You'll get to figure it out with time.

O.K. Before I ask my Q (to all the fellas out there who are squeamish about the topic I wouldn't read the reply to this) Now onto the matter at hand...

!st what is it that you do consider your self since you have zero sex with guys buy have kissed them, and just out of curiosity what "status" were the guys you kissed (ie curious, gay, bi, or dare I say straight)

I noticed you reference 3somes with MFM.. I've done as many of these as I have FMF's (I love these so much better cause I'm selfish... lol) but it took me a long time not to get pissed if me and the guy bump into each other and I used to be if we get too close together that things touched and I dont even mean our dicks I mean a leg and hip or a dick and knee or anything like that... Hell it took me forever to to a dp with my girl cause I didn't want nobody balls that close to my dick and vise versa so my point is that it took for me to not be so much of a jerk to do MFM still without doing anything gay just not freaking out if we in the same area and just fyi these are all straight as an arrow guys (or so I hope) so what is it that you be doing with these cats, or not doing and want to do and whats their orientation?

 

[Jointsmith]

I don't think something as complex as sexuallity can be broken down into Gay or Straight.

I think it's a sliding scale that everyone figures on somewhere, which would make everyone 'Bi-sexual' to some degree. Some people are at one end (call themselves straight) and some people are at the other end (Gay).

I think the main reason we adhere to 'Straight' or 'Gay' is more down to social constructs and our social situations.

I think you CAN be a bit gay and not know it, maybe one day you'll meet someone of the same gender as yourself and think 'they're really hot, I'd tap that' even if only on a subconsious level, however due to, as I said above, social constructs and situation, most people never act on that (or even acknowledge it in themselves).

Never say never.

 

[Conoclast]

O.K. Before I ask my Q (to all the fellas out there who are squeamish about the topic I wouldn't read the reply to this) Now onto the matter at hand...

!st what is it that you do consider your self since you have zero sex with guys buy have kissed them, and just out of curiosity what "status" were the guys you kissed (ie curious, gay, bi, or dare I say straight)

I noticed you reference 3somes with MFM.. I've done as many of these as I have FMF's (I love these so much better cause I'm selfish... lol) but it took me a long time not to get pissed if me and the guy bump into each other and I used to be if we get too close together that things touched and I dont even mean our dicks I mean a leg and hip or a dick and knee or anything like that... Hell it took me forever to to a dp with my girl cause I didn't want nobody balls that close to my dick and vise versa so my point is that it took for me to not be so much of a jerk to do MFM still without doing anything gay just not freaking out if we in the same area and just fyi these are all straight as an arrow guys (or so I hope) so what is it that you be doing with these cats, or not doing and want to do and whats their orientation?

I really condifer myself to be a little on the bi side and the guys we straight as far as I know.

I don't think that I understand your 3some question correctly but from what I got: I don't mind the thing that there's another guy and stuff but I don't want him to fuck my girl just coz I'm a little possesive so it'd be rather hard for me to accept a threesome that way. But if I *were* to accept it the fact that there is another male naked in the same place as I am wouldn't really bother me and if the moment is right I might actually end up doing stuff with him although I don't have the desire of gay anal sex, neither giving nor receiving.
Did that answer your question? If not try to ask me again in different words :mrgeen:

 

[Stoney McFried]

I know about that stuff, flanders...I was just suggesting the toys to him to see if the idea of anal repulsed him.Though not all gay men do it, many do.I figured if the butt plug worked, then a penis shaped object....then a guy...so he could take baby steps.

Stoney,
Take some time and google "pegging" Anal play has NOTHING to do with homosexuality. It can, but it is certainly not exlusive. The male anus is a collection of a gazilion nerve endings and it very pleasurable to be touched there. Inside is the prostrate gland which is almost like a female clitoris.
Expand your mind, Sunshine!!

 

[Prophecy]

I don't know, but I'll keep you all posted...

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My current view about Homosexuality.​

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I think at least 8 out 10 homosexual persons are mentally manipulated into being that way by their environment or an ill minded person. In other words, I think homosexuality is a predominately nurtured condition rather than a natured or natural condition. In other words, I believe homosexuality is primarily learned. It seems to me that the natural manifestation of it (as oppose to the spiritual nature of it) is influenced by a combination of (situational or circumstantial mental and physiological development of the human body) natural chemical process that periodically occur within the human body similar to, if not exactly like the physiological conditioning that takes place during puberty.

The chemical disposition of the human body is always changing, however, in this example, I will recognize two climax that take place after birth: during adolescent (puberty) and during adulthood (rights of passage). These are the physiological aspects of this combination.

The second part of the combination is pertaining to the brain and the mind. As many ought to know, the mind is generally associated to the brain; and the brain is obviously naturally connected to the human body’s physiological system. Therefore, as the physiological system evolves over the years, it is safe to say the brain does also; this change affects the brain from the inside of the body. The mind on the other hand is affected by the various things on the outside of the body; things that exist within our environments and/or cultures. Mindfully speaking, I believe those who are physically gay or in question of their sexuality are experiencing a bout similar to an identity crisis that is the result of not essentially knowing who they really are (as in delusion); and likely because of some degree of emotional trauma, neglect and/or ignorance (lacking knowledge of something).

Self-discipline is very important in life; unless you have discipline over your self (the natural impulses), you will have discipline over nothing that affects you. Self-discipline is also a very important/essential factor in homosexuality and every other abuse/trauma, lust, carnality or addiction; some homosexual’s may feel (en)trapped because they physically acted out and someone in their mind is manipulated that act. These types of friends and/or family are not necessarily healthy for your essential well being righteous development ( this is not to say that that the friend or family member or whatever is conscience of what they do themselves or how they conduct themselves pertaining to themselves let alone you; this is why it is important for you, the actual individual to take initiative and control over your mind/own life’s understanding/destiny). This is not calling you to bring premature judgment of such people before you take the time to bring the appropriate (super)natural) order into your life: mind, body, soul that you may take the necessary time to collect your thoughts without burning any unnecessary bridges.

“The Truth shall set you free”, even if it hurts at first; eventually you will heal if you sincerely and consistently seek out the sources of your setbacks; no one can do this more fundamentally than a personal relationship with God. Personally, I believe gay acts are a result from lust or a lack of understanding of God’s love and sexual discipline; a lack of self-realization and self-identity. I say this because most people today are looking for love in man; without first understanding and realizing the God from which it originate.

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“To the left, to the left.”​

As with any problem the way to the solution is to research relative knowledge; knowledge to resolve the emotional problem/trauma, to fulfill the shortcoming. An answer with this “gender” of people is to seek information that will enlighten and provide understanding to who their original being is, their essence. Obviously, the first step to healing or curing a problem is to admit or realize that there is a problem/challenge and developing a righteous or clear path that you can take to establish resolve from the inside out intrinsic to extrinsic). Remember, you can’t run and hide from yourself; and justifying hurting yourself because it seems that everybody else is hurting you, ultimately is not the right reaction for you. Remember the evil one wants you to harm yourself for his/her/its self righteous glorification; this is done to steal your true destiny; Thus act best, you must rebuke and resist him/her/it and get your mind right; “The Truth shall set you free”.

Some start up references: Things related to Emotional Intelligence; the philosophy of Aristotle, and ultimately the Divine Truth of God. Jesus Christ is right and he loves you if you let him, regardless of your history or what man says against you.

The true test: If you can honestly measure/contrast your attitude (mind state) and behavior with the Divine Truth; and maintain “the essence” of your sexuality, then according to my philosophy, your faith in the Truth has or will deliver (validate) you. Regardless of what others say God, the Divine Truth in your heart; and God, the Divine Truth in your mind from heaven (and his Word) approves of you. The confirmation of your sexuality being right is to make sure your standards are not superficial, carnal or a lie: the mind can be a delusional thing.

I believe the church should accept homosexual people, but to challenge them with the Holy Spirit lead Virtue of God, as they would any person. If they can stand the refining Fire of God's Holy Word and Spirit, then their faith has delivered them. But, ultimately, a personal relationship developed/matured/established from you reading the Word of God/Truth and being faithful to his Spirit as it is revealed on your conscience will be your fortified mind/destiny.

If you are homosexual or are having homosexual thoughts; I suggest that you give it three to five years of diligent soul searching before you act on it (again).


Love God;
Homage your love ones to God;
Worship God thru your loved ones,
The Virtuous Intelligence Theory
Detroit,Mi

 

[EarthlyPassions]

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My current view about Homosexuality.​

I believe the church should accept homosexual people, but to challenge them with the Holy Spirit lead Virtue of God, as they would any person. If they can stand the refining Fire of God's Holy Word and Spirit, then their faith has delivered them. But, ultimately, a personal relationship developed/matured/established from you reading the Word of God/Truth and being faithful to his Spirit as it is revealed on your conscience will be your fortified mind/destiny.

If you are homosexual or are having homosexual thoughts; I suggest that you give it three to five years of diligent soul searching before you act on it (again).

Three to five years?? I've got a date in a week!
I've already gone through all that, done the research, prayed the prayers, shed the tears and beat myself up over it.
I'm a Gay Christian, and I'm confident that I'm walking the path of God because I follow the two golden rules:
1)Love God, above all else.
2)Love your neighbor, as you love yourself.

But see, "God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him” (1 Jhon, 4:16)"
So they way I see it, there's one rule. Love everybody as much as you can, and do your best to Love doing so. For me, one of the best ways to have love in your life is a relationship, it makes love an everyday occurrence. How can God be against that?
Here's my link: http://www.gaychristian.net/

 

[starsailor]

Wow, I think that makes me number 2!

2 gays in the whole of stonerville!

I'm not a Christian. Fair play to anyone with faith - didnt work for me.

I am also very open and cool with any questions you guys wanna ask.

I dont make a big deal out of it. I will only bring it up in this thread - I'm here to chat about growing and smoking. I am of the 'live and let live' mind set. But while this thread is here and anyone wants to ask anything. Fire away!

 

[Stoney McFried]

I think there are more.I like your Avatar.

Wow, I think that makes me number 2!

2 gays in the whole of stonerville!

I'm not a Christian. Fair play to anyone with faith - didnt work for me.

I am also very open and cool with any questions you guys wanna ask.

I dont make a big deal out of it. I will only bring it up in this thread - I'm here to chat about growing and smoking. I am of the 'live and let live' mind set. But while this thread is here and anyone wants to ask anything. Fire away!

 

[GrowTech]

Anythings possible my friend.

 

[starsailor]

I believe those who are physically gay or in question of their sexuality are experiencing a bout similar to an identity crisis that is the result of not essentially knowing who they really are (as in delusion); and likely because of some degree of emotional trauma, neglect and/or ignorance (lacking knowledge of something).


How long do you suppose I will be in this delusion for?

 

[Stoney McFried]

Oh, he doesn't come around here anymore.He's a fruit loop.

I believe those who are physically gay or in question of their sexuality are experiencing a bout similar to an identity crisis that is the result of not essentially knowing who they really are (as in delusion); and likely because of some degree of emotional trauma, neglect and/or ignorance (lacking knowledge of something).


How long do you suppose I will be in this delusion for?

 

[ElBarto]

Oh, he doesn't come around here anymore.He's a fruit loop.

Yeah you know I was going to say that I miss him but I really don't. He was a boring, self-righteous jerk without any hint of empathy for his fellow human beings.

 

[starsailor]

Ah. Makes sense.