War crimes in Gaza?

Will Israel be convicted of war crimes?


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Jimdamick

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It seems now that Israel has another problem besides Hamas. The UN Human Rights Council is starting an investigation as to whether war crimes were committed by Israel in Gaza. One central question will be why there were so many civilian causalities suffered by the Palestinians. The body count, as it stands today is over 2100 Palestinians killed, mostly civilians supposedly, while the Israelis suffered 72 causalities, 6 of which were civilians. Thousands of buildings were destroyed, leaving tens of thousands persons homeless. This is not the 1st time Israel has faced charges that it used unreasonable force, as it faced the same charges in 2009 as a result of their attack on Gaza then. That investigation concluded there was strong evidence that war crimes were committed by both Israel and Hamas. Israel by deliberately or recklessly targeting civilians, and Hamas by firing rockets indiscriminately at Israeli cities. This time Israel is really worried though at the thought of international sanctions being imposed, which did not happen the last time. The main issue will be the principle of proportionality, which is actually a judgment call as to whether excessive force was used. Israel is prepared to use 2 main arguments. One being that not all the dead were civilians, only half were and the other being that Hamas purposely placed their rockets in schools, mosques and other sensitive areas, such as hospitals. Unlike last time though, Israel will not boycott this investigation, and has brought in legal and military experts to aid in it's defense. One argument they intend to use is that they are being singled out by biased international bodies, and if the same standards were used for everyone, then Russia should be sanctioned for it's actions in the Ukraine, and the US for it's actions in Iraq, so why is Israel being singled out, anti-Semitism? They really said that. One other problem facing Israel this time is that the Palestinians are threating to apply for membership to the International Criminal Court in order to press formal charges on their own against Israel if the UN doesn't set a timeline for the withdrawal of Israel from the occupied lands. That should go nowhere with the veto power of the US, so expect an application to the ICC by Palestine, which Israel is sure to love. Anyway, we will see in a month if the State of Palestine gets anywhere in the UN, and the war crime report is expected to be released in March 2015. Shalom.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
It seems now that Israel has another problem besides Hamas. The UN Human Rights Council is starting an investigation as to whether war crimes were committed by Israel in Gaza. One central question will be why there were so many civilian causalities suffered by the Palestinians. The body count, as it stands today is over 2100 Palestinians killed, mostly civilians supposedly, while the Israelis suffered 72 causalities, 6 of which were civilians. Thousands of buildings were destroyed, leaving tens of thousands persons homeless. This is not the 1st time Israel has faced charges that it used unreasonable force, as it faced the same charges in 2009 as a result of their attack on Gaza then. That investigation concluded there was strong evidence that war crimes were committed by both Israel and Hamas. Israel by deliberately or recklessly targeting civilians, and Hamas by firing rockets indiscriminately at Israeli cities. This time Israel is really worried though at the thought of international sanctions being imposed, which did not happen the last time. The main issue will be the principle of proportionality, which is actually a judgment call as to whether excessive force was used. Israel is prepared to use 2 main arguments. One being that not all the dead were civilians, only half were and the other being that Hamas purposely placed their rockets in schools, mosques and other sensitive areas, such as hospitals. Unlike last time though, Israel will not boycott this investigation, and has brought in legal and military experts to aid in it's defense. One argument they intend to use is that they are being singled out by biased international bodies, and if the same standards were used for everyone, then Russia should be sanctioned for it's actions in the Ukraine, and the US for it's actions in Iraq, so why is Israel being singled out, anti-Semitism? They really said that. One other problem facing Israel this time is that the Palestinians are threating to apply for membership to the International Criminal Court in order to press formal charges on their own against Israel if the UN doesn't set a timeline for the withdrawal of Israel from the occupied lands. That should go nowhere with the veto power of the US, so expect an application to the ICC by Palestine, which Israel is sure to love. Anyway, we will see in a month if the State of Palestine gets anywhere in the UN, and the war crime report is expected to be released in March 2015. Shalom.
The UN?
LOL
 

Observe & Report

Well-Known Member
Stupid "human rights advocates," don't you know that Hamas fighters were hiding inside the fuel storage tanks at the power plant? They hide in the tanks because they know Israel is pure and good and would never target critical civililan infrastructure. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/middle-east-unrest/israel-strikes-fuel-tanks-gazas-only-power-plant-n167291

Hamas never learns and Israel always seems to find them hiding in the power plant. Israel had no choice but to bomb the power plant in 2006 then had to deny imports of parts to repair it because ROCKETS. https://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israelopt-gaza-power-crisis-has-compounded-blockade-s-assault-human-dignity-2013-11-29

Don't forget 2009. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/29/israel-gaza-infrastructure-blackouts-idf-civilian

Of course, Hamas are equal opportunity war criminals, they also hide in the biscuit factories, plastics factories, sponge-making plants, fruit distributor offices, etc... Gotta level 'em all because TUNNELS. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/gaza/11007914/They-want-to-make-us-dependent-on-aid-Gazas-economy-ruined-by-Israeli-shelling.html

You must agree that the time has come for Israel to stop holding back, to really send in the IDF and just clean the place out. A "Solution" if you will. Kill or chase as many arabush away as possible to Egypt or the Mediterranean sea so Israel can come in and start colonizing it with a healthy Jewish majority. Those that manage to survive and can't be encouraged to get lost will be given a "permanent" residency permit. Then Israel can get rid them when they can't prove a "connection to the land," same way it's done in East Jerusalem. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15326

After the bungled attempt in Gaza from 1967-2006, you'll have to agree that this Solution is what is required to finally cleanse and annex Gaza with greatly reduced threat of the bombs Israel fears most, the demographic ones. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-israel-s-arabs-are-the-real-demographic-threat-1.109045
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Israel has one of the strongest lobbies in America, Netanyahu could literally shoot a Palestinian civilian in the head on live TV and have it broadcast all over the world and he still wouldn't be charged with war crimes

So, yes they have committed war crimes (as well as Hamas), but they'll never be prosecuted for it, not in a million fuckin years
 

earnest_voice

Well-Known Member


Jerusalem: Sunday brought a different kind of pre-wedding jitters for one Israeli couple.

Instead of fretting over hairdos and guest arrangements, Morel Malka and Mahmoud Mansour spent the morning of their wedding in court, trying to keep right-wing Zionist extremists from ruining their special night.

Amid the tension of Israel's fragile ceasefire with Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip, the intimacy of Morel and Mahmoud has become a national political issue.

The crux of it: she comes from a Jewish family; he's a Muslim Arab.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/rightwing-extremists-cant-break-the-love-of-a-muslim-man-and-jewish-woman-in-israel-20140818-1058hp.html#ixzz3CWfMPsDc

Is this the country where arabs enjoy equal rights and opportunities?

Congratulations to the happy couple :clap:
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Stupid "human rights advocates," don't you know that Hamas fighters were hiding inside the fuel storage tanks at the power plant? They hide in the tanks because they know Israel is pure and good and would never target critical civililan infrastructure. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/middle-east-unrest/israel-strikes-fuel-tanks-gazas-only-power-plant-n167291

Hamas never learns and Israel always seems to find them hiding in the power plant. Israel had no choice but to bomb the power plant in 2006 then had to deny imports of parts to repair it because ROCKETS. https://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israelopt-gaza-power-crisis-has-compounded-blockade-s-assault-human-dignity-2013-11-29

Don't forget 2009. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/29/israel-gaza-infrastructure-blackouts-idf-civilian

Of course, Hamas are equal opportunity war criminals, they also hide in the biscuit factories, plastics factories, sponge-making plants, fruit distributor offices, etc... Gotta level 'em all because TUNNELS. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/gaza/11007914/They-want-to-make-us-dependent-on-aid-Gazas-economy-ruined-by-Israeli-shelling.html

You must agree that the time has come for Israel to stop holding back, to really send in the IDF and just clean the place out. A "Solution" if you will. Kill or chase as many arabush away as possible to Egypt or the Mediterranean sea so Israel can come in and start colonizing it with a healthy Jewish majority. Those that manage to survive and can't be encouraged to get lost will be given a "permanent" residency permit. Then Israel can get rid them when they can't prove a "connection to the land," same way it's done in East Jerusalem. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15326

After the bungled attempt in Gaza from 1967-2006, you'll have to agree that this Solution is what is required to finally cleanse and annex Gaza with greatly reduced threat of the bombs Israel fears most, the demographic ones. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-israel-s-arabs-are-the-real-demographic-threat-1.109045

when the pallies lay down their arms there will be peace, not a moment before.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
ZOMG!!!! some wackadoos threw a protest over an intercultural wedding!!

that whole nation must be a font of pure evil!!

the australian army should invade israel and institute the sort of programs they had up till the 1970's in ausfailia.

israel DESERVES to have a Lost Generation because they dont approve of pallies launching rockets digging tunnels and assassinating jewish kids.

cuz the jews are racist... somehow...
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Are they investigating Hamas?
Yes, and they are definitely going to get nailed for the firing of rockets at population centers. I don't know if there is any more that can be done to them besides what the Israelis are doing now though.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Stupid "human rights advocates," don't you know that Hamas fighters were hiding inside the fuel storage tanks at the power plant? They hide in the tanks because they know Israel is pure and good and would never target critical civililan infrastructure. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/middle-east-unrest/israel-strikes-fuel-tanks-gazas-only-power-plant-n167291

Hamas never learns and Israel always seems to find them hiding in the power plant. Israel had no choice but to bomb the power plant in 2006 then had to deny imports of parts to repair it because ROCKETS. https://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israelopt-gaza-power-crisis-has-compounded-blockade-s-assault-human-dignity-2013-11-29

Don't forget 2009. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/29/israel-gaza-infrastructure-blackouts-idf-civilian

Of course, Hamas are equal opportunity war criminals, they also hide in the biscuit factories, plastics factories, sponge-making plants, fruit distributor offices, etc... Gotta level 'em all because TUNNELS. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/gaza/11007914/They-want-to-make-us-dependent-on-aid-Gazas-economy-ruined-by-Israeli-shelling.html

You must agree that the time has come for Israel to stop holding back, to really send in the IDF and just clean the place out. A "Solution" if you will. Kill or chase as many arabush away as possible to Egypt or the Mediterranean sea so Israel can come in and start colonizing it with a healthy Jewish majority. Those that manage to survive and can't be encouraged to get lost will be given a "permanent" residency permit. Then Israel can get rid them when they can't prove a "connection to the land," same way it's done in East Jerusalem. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15326

After the bungled attempt in Gaza from 1967-2006, you'll have to agree that this Solution is what is required to finally cleanse and annex Gaza with greatly reduced threat of the bombs Israel fears most, the demographic ones. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-israel-s-arabs-are-the-real-demographic-threat-1.109045
You left out Israels equal treatment of it's Arab citizens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel
 

earnest_voice

Well-Known Member
ZOMG!!!! some wackadoos threw a protest over an intercultural wedding!!

that whole nation must be a font of pure evil!!

the australian army should invade israel and institute the sort of programs they had up till the 1970's in ausfailia.

israel DESERVES to have a Lost Generation because they dont approve of pallies launching rockets digging tunnels and assassinating jewish kids.

cuz the jews are racist... somehow...
Jew mad bro?

LOL look in your own backyard before criticizing another nation. I take it from your utter lack of knowledge on the subject you believe Arab Israelis enjoy the same rights as their Jewish counterparts?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Yes, and they are definitely going to get nailed for the firing of rockets at population centers. I don't know if there is any more that can be done to them besides what the Israelis are doing now though.
Not a fucking thing will happen.
The USA is one of 5 on the top tier of the UN
 

Observe & Report

Well-Known Member

when the pallies lay down their arms there will be peace, not a moment before.
Forgive me Dr. Kynes, because I have been laboring under the misconception that you are an articulate man.

Does it bother you that members of the Knesset, the Cabinet, and even the Israeli PM openly talk about Israel’s “demographic problems” and a “Solution” while simultaneously bombing the inconveniently located unpeople of the wrong ethnicity back to the stone age or actively colonizing their land?

If you lived in the Free Jewish State of Israel, you wouldn’t feel uncomfortable when Jews speak their mind or the truth. You could be open about the Zionist project without getting jumped on by a bunch of losers shrieking “WAR CRIMES!!” Losers with the audacity to think there might be racist intentions behind a century long project to turn Palestine into a Jewish State with a clear and sustainable Jewish Demographic Supremacy to last 1000 years.

Maybe the geniuses at Technion can come up with a way to stop the Fakestinians from having so many babies. In addition, of course, to cutting off their electricity, stealing their water, blowing up their food industries, blowing up their homes built from the rubble of the last homes Israel blew up, counting their calories, shooting them on sight when they try to farm their land, etc… That sure would cut down own the amount of bribes Israel would have to distribute to the really stubborn ones who refuse to die or make living space for Jews.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Forgive me Dr. Kynes, because I have been laboring under the misconception that you are an articulate man.

Does it bother you that members of the Knesset, the Cabinet, and even the Israeli PM openly talk about Israel’s “demographic problems” and a “Solution” while simultaneously bombing the inconveniently located unpeople of the wrong ethnicity back to the stone age or actively colonizing their land?

If you lived in the Free Jewish State of Israel, you wouldn’t feel uncomfortable when Jews speak their mind or the truth. You could be open about the Zionist project without getting jumped on by a bunch of losers shrieking “WAR CRIMES!!” Losers with the audacity to think there might be racist intentions behind a century long project to turn Palestine into a Jewish State with a clear and sustainable Jewish Demographic Supremacy to last 1000 years.

Maybe the geniuses at Technion can come up with a way to stop the Fakestinians from having so many babies. In addition, of course, to cutting off their electricity, stealing their water, blowing up their food industries, blowing up their homes built from the rubble of the last homes Israel blew up, counting their calories, shooting them on sight when they try to farm their land, etc… That sure would cut down own the amount of bribes Israel would have to distribute to the really stubborn ones who refuse to die or make living space for Jews.
if the pallies stopped firing rockets and murdering children, there would be peace tomorrow.

all your outlandish unsupportable claims are pointless.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
When Jews stop stealing land, maybe they will think about it.
read the Hope Simpson report and the Pool report.

there is no "landstealing" going on.

even the pallies dont try to claim that shit when they would be forced to back it up.

it's a meme, pure propaganda created to get sympathy from mushbrains like you.
 
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