Methodical, scientific approach to nutrients and nutrient formulations discussion

zem

zem

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kingofqueen said:
Then keep looking around ! I,ll take my advice from the commercial grower over the bookworm .There is lots of good info here at RIU, just weed your way through the threads and consider reading UB's writings and if you want to go to school check out RM3 .
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i saw loads of info from chemical companies but they were not specifically for weed growing. in here i found exactly what i wanted. if you take the trouble to read through the thread you will actually find the ppm contribution of each chemical you add ya dig? so i don't even have to use the formulas exactly as in here, they're just great examples to refer to when growing your plants and speculating on what they need. so if i think that they will like some more calcium and nitrogen i add some calcium nitrate or if they need some p-k i add mono-potassium phosphate etc... etc... not 2 plants are exactly the same and i have better control on feeding than brand ferts, it's a great way to grow, very professional and low cost.
i was just sad because it's easy to bash someone for no reason or just cuz you're not interested, but over here it caused Fatman to go away from it cuz he felt his efforts were lost. it's better to try and contribute with something instead of killing useful threads
 
kingofqueen

kingofqueen

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zem said:
i saw loads of info from chemical companies but they were not specifically for weed growing. in here i found exactly what i wanted. if you take the trouble to read through the thread you will actually find the ppm contribution of each chemical you add ya dig? so i don't even have to use the formulas exactly as in here, they're just great examples to refer to when growing your plants and speculating on what they need. so if i think that they will like some more calcium and nitrogen i add some calcium nitrate or if they need some p-k i add mono-potassium phosphate etc... etc... not 2 plants are exactly the same and i have better control on feeding than brand ferts, it's a great way to grow, very professional and low cost.
i was just sad because it's easy to bash someone for no reason or just cuz you're not interested, but over here it caused Fatman to go away from it cuz he felt his efforts were lost. it's better to try and contribute with something instead of killing useful threads
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I personally am growing along just fine , the useful information here are the links UB posted .There is good info pasted in here ,but nothing I haven't read on here or linked to from here , aside from that nothing useful here to me ,I practice Organics.The title caught my eye and UB was active.Seemed like a good situation for some useful debates.Instead it was a 1 sided argument . IT's a weed that will grow almost anywhere you dont have to make it so complicated.The thread self destructed by itself , this happens when the thread starter argues with the first person that disagrees .If you do the proper research you will learn MMJ NPK and needed trace elements for both growing meadiums . It's not a mystery ,ya dig ? Peace I,m out and will not return here so take as a grain of salt ,glad you "learned " something .
 
jberry

jberry

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I guess ignorance really is bliss for some people. :dunce:

P.S. -this threads been dead for a long while now and fatman has his own grow website these days and isnt on RIU anymore as far as i know.
 
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medicine21

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jberry said:
I guess ignorance really is bliss for some people. :dunce:

P.S. -this threads been dead for a long while now and fatman has his own grow website these days and isnt on RIU anymore as far as i know.
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Which website is this? Please send PM, in case it's against the rules...
 
jberry

jberry

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medicine21 said:
Which website is this? Please send PM, in case it's against the rules...
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Ok, I will PM you the website address... I hope the fatman doesnt mind and hope you will be careful not to expose anyones real idenity... -I would assume that fatman would have posted a link or mentioned it someway if he wanted the RIU users to know about it. -I believe that he uses his real name on his new website so im sure that it may be a concern of his. -Out of respect for his privacy, it is also the reason I havent already shared the sites address.

I havent spent a lot of time on the site yet but I plan to look into it more when I have the time...

-It is definitely aimed toward synthetic nutrient chemistry and nutrient formulations that can be done at home... -Site has nutrient calculator software and it provides program binaries for Windows but not Mac. -Some good articles too.


Check your PM box and be careful how and who you pass the address to...
thanks... -J
 
zem

zem

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kingofqueen said:
I personally am growing along just fine , the useful information here are the links UB posted .There is good info pasted in here ,but nothing I haven't read on here or linked to from here , aside from that nothing useful here to me ,I practice Organics.The title caught my eye and UB was active.Seemed like a good situation for some useful debates.Instead it was a 1 sided argument . IT's a weed that will grow almost anywhere you dont have to make it so complicated.The thread self destructed by itself , this happens when the thread starter argues with the first person that disagrees .If you do the proper research you will learn MMJ NPK and needed trace elements for both growing meadiums . It's not a mystery ,ya dig ? Peace I,m out and will not return here so take as a grain of salt ,glad you "learned " something .
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another organic genius, the same old saying "it's a weed will grow anywhere" fact is this thread is more useful than all your bully comments, with great effort put into getting all the scientific info. it gave me the info i needed and it's great for anyone who wants to get synthetic chemical ferts in parts, if that's complicated for you then stick to brand shit that's silly priced, and that you cannot really control the feed. this method is what all big commercial food producers around the world use, th veggies you eat daily are not grown with ferts bought from the hydro store shelf lmao you don't like it then fine, you don't need to throw your B.S in here
 
rosecitypapa

rosecitypapa

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Perhaps some can shed some light on measurements and concentrations when it comes to mixing ratios? For example, I have two different nutrient formulations that I want to add together. One is 3-2-4 the other 2-2-5. If I add equal measure of each do I get a solution of 2.5 - 2 - 4.5 or one of 5-4-9?

Also,

If I'm using a benny tea, it will consider all sources of nitrogen as food, therefore increasing my ph. Correct?
 
sk'mo

sk'mo

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Uncle Ben said:
Absolutely. If you have been a gardener of "legal" plants for 10 years you will bring forth so much knowledge and insight to the table when you decide to grow a little pot, it's unbelievable ... It's knowing what makes a plant tick that counts, not having pissed off $1,000 on equipment, hardware, and bottled supplements.

UB
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So true. I just got rid of my first real harvest (Had grown one plant prior to that.) to a compassion club, and they loved it! They were blown away when I mentioned it was my first run. The only real challenge for me was processing, something I've never done before. And to be honest, I wasn't even that satisfied with the bud... Started with stressed clones (A few even hermied.), over-fertilized early on, and had some cal/mag issues I wasn't able to address. - I can do better.

I guess that's what 7 years of groundskeeping and a bit of school gets you.

Cannabis isn't a unique or special plant from a horticultural standpoint - The word 'sativa' means 'easy to grow' - What does make it unique though, is the amount of attention and care we put into it. Which is on par with fine orchid or rose growers.

Anyhoo, just wanted to say that I love my job.
 
kingofqueen

kingofqueen

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zem said:
another organic genius, the same old saying "it's a weed will grow anywhere" fact is this thread is more useful than all your bully comments, with great effort put into getting all the scientific info. it gave me the info i needed and it's great for anyone who wants to get synthetic chemical ferts in parts, if that's complicated for you then stick to brand shit that's silly priced, and that you cannot really control the feed. this method is what all big commercial food producers around the world use, th veggies you eat daily are not grown with ferts bought from the hydro store shelf lmao you don't like it then fine, you don't need to throw your B.S in here
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Way to go at setting a good example ! And yanking my chain when I already posted I wasnt coming back here . We are not growing a green house sized grows where complex nutrient formulations are needed to keep costs down and then still not needed , Why make a simple grow so complicated ? Someones got the wrong audience by the number of posts in here .
 
andymex

andymex

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This was really interesting....
@fatman7574 (with all his chemistry knowledge) predicts Dyna will not be ph stable in hydro. Has anyone had this problem ?
I actually think Dyna is one of the most stable foods I have tried and I definitely don't get a daily drop as @fatman7574 predicts....
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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andymex said:
This was really interesting....
@fatman7574 (with all his chemistry knowledge) predicts Dyna will not be ph stable in hydro. Has anyone had this problem ?
I actually think Dyna is one of the most stable foods I have tried and I definitely don't get a daily drop as @fatman7574 predicts....
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just so you know fatman is long gone from here. i loved this thread, very informative. from what i remember of foliage pro was that it was pretty stable. i think i used RO back then so not sure if i've used it in my well water. good stuff i thought.
 
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