I used my Obama care and here are the facts...

nitro harley

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LOL, So so sad. Keep thinking the people you are listening to, have your best interests at heart. Dude, you are not even on their radar, you are still considered low class and lazy in there eyes, small potatoes. The people they are looking out for are 10,000x larger than you dude. I think half the shit you say is all BS anyway.
Hazydat..

We are on different planets, good luck with your endeavors.
 

nitro harley

Well-Known Member
You are still saving money.
Hopefully you get your wish.
They repeal obamacare and then you can enjoy getting ass raped by the insurance companies

Chesus.

Obamacare won't get repealed. It might get changed some what but it is here to stay. There are to many people that lean to the right that likes some parts of it to give it up totally. imo

What we need to do is not have 20% increases. Why in the fuck can't it be 1%?

BarryO sold it as a savings of 2500.00 per family. And it ended up being some change instead, well about 60.00 for me , so you are right I am still kinda saving from where I was two years ago.
 

ChesusRice

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Chesus.

Obamacare won't get repealed. It might get changed some what but it is here to stay. There are to many people that lean to the right that likes some parts of it to give it up totally. imo

What we need to do is not have 20% increases. Why in the fuck can't it be 1%?

BarryO sold it as a savings of 2500.00 per family. And it ended up being some change instead, well about 60.00 for me , so you are right I am still kinda saving from where I was two years ago.
You are still saving money and your plan is better
What are you complaining about again?
 

nitro harley

Well-Known Member
Nitro -

what is your concern with this plan?

what is your current premium?

let me help you..
Sky.

My concern was the 20% increase in monthly cost. The plan is good. The deductible has doubled if I give it up and then later tried to get it back, otherwise i think I still have my 750.00 deductible.

We all knew the the big jump in cost was coming, so not much we can do but vote. Thanks for offering.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Sky.

My concern was the 20% increase in monthly cost. The plan is good. The deductible has doubled if I give it up and then later tried to get it back, otherwise i think I still have my 750.00 deductible.

We all knew the the big jump in cost was coming, so not much we can do but vote. Thanks for offering.
Nitro -

To negate an increase, obama (knew this would happen) made a deal with the insurance companies that (as i understand it) the fed will cover the increases for 2015.

Your letter was dated September..duuuuuuude, ANYTHING can happen between now and December 31st or when open enrollment ends. This is the first renewal of ACA..

Are you able to go online yet to look at other policies for oregon?..if so, shoot me the link so i can look around and make some comparisons<3
 

NoDrama

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The ACA is about cutting corners on expenses. Remember, this was touted as saving money. It will save the government money, which in turn can hopefully save us all money in the long run as long as we live healthy lifestyles. You can start by eating less concentrated sugars, mainly HFCS or high fructose CORN syrup. Also lobby your congresspersons to end the federal corn subsidy and criminalize GMO corn. You will be doing the world a favor.
 

sheskunk

Well-Known Member
The ACA is about cutting corners on expenses. Remember, this was touted as saving money. It will save the government money, which in turn can hopefully save us all money in the long run as long as we live healthy lifestyles. You can start by eating less concentrated sugars, mainly HFCS or high fructose CORN syrup. Also lobby your congresspersons to end the federal corn subsidy and criminalize GMO corn. You will be doing the world a favor.

Criminalize corn? Like they did marijuana?
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
The ACA is about cutting corners on expenses. Remember, this was touted as saving money. It will save the government money, which in turn can hopefully save us all money in the long run as long as we live healthy lifestyles. You can start by eating less concentrated sugars, mainly HFCS or high fructose CORN syrup. Also lobby your congresspersons to end the federal corn subsidy and criminalize GMO corn. You will be doing the world a favor.
Seriously tho...medicine is 4x moar expensive to the US taxpayer per capita than "socialised" medicine, where everything is "free" regardless of your income.

Even tho it's deducted from the tax pool, it still costs 4x less...

Fuck your ideology, it's simple mathematics.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
The ACA is about cutting corners on expenses. Remember, this was touted as saving money. It will save the government money, which in turn can hopefully save us all money in the long run as long as we live healthy lifestyles. You can start by eating less concentrated sugars, mainly HFCS or high fructose CORN syrup. Also lobby your congresspersons to end the federal corn subsidy and criminalize GMO corn. You will be doing the world a favor.
say..aren't you a corn farmer?

:lol:
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Seriously tho...medicine is 4x moar expensive to the US taxpayer per capita than "socialised" medicine, where everything is "free" regardless of your income.

Even tho it's deducted from the tax pool, it still costs 4x less...

Fuck your ideology, it's simple mathematics.
Once upon a time when people payed for most medical care out of their pockets, a woman giving childbirth was $200, now its about $20,000. Stitches? $15, now $900 (for 5 of them). Need an aspirin? $40 for each one if you get it at the hospital, used to be free. Oh, and the doctor used to come to YOUR house to look in on you, now you will be lucky to even talk to the doctor. Our technology and equipment have gotten so much better, but the administrative and legal side have become such a burden to us all that we can barely breathe anymore. The costs are killing us.

Sadly though, most doctoring is just "Sick Care", covering up the symptoms and never curing the cause.
 

Hazydat620

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Once upon a time when people payed for most medical care out of their pockets, a woman giving childbirth was $200, now its about $20,000. Stitches? $15, now $900 (for 5 of them). Need an aspirin? $40 for each one if you get it at the hospital, used to be free. Oh, and the doctor used to come to YOUR house to look in on you, now you will be lucky to even talk to the doctor. Our technology and equipment have gotten so much better, but the administrative and legal side have become such a burden to us all that we can barely breathe anymore. The costs are killing us.

Sadly though, most doctoring is just "Sick Care", covering up the symptoms and never curing the cause.
Quite the scheme Obama has concocted, he has been behind it the WHOLE time, making us pay ridiculous amounts of money for health care... off with his head!
 

UncleBuck

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Once upon a time when people payed for most medical care out of their pockets, a woman giving childbirth was $200, now its about $20,000. Stitches? $15, now $900 (for 5 of them). Need an aspirin? $40 for each one if you get it at the hospital, used to be free. Oh, and the doctor used to come to YOUR house to look in on you, now you will be lucky to even talk to the doctor. Our technology and equipment have gotten so much better, but the administrative and legal side have become such a burden to us all that we can barely breathe anymore. The costs are killing us.

Sadly though, most doctoring is just "Sick Care", covering up the symptoms and never curing the cause.
if only the private sector could bring its administrative costs down to the government's medicare level.

but private insurance will never approach the level of efficiency of socialized government run medicine, the rest of the world proves that very well.
 

Uncle Ben

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I have a gold plan that cost 493.00 per month with a 750.00 deductible. My knee surgery is just over 10k and they say I will owe up to 4700.00 total out of pocket. I really thought I had better Ins than that so thanks BarryO.
Your gold plan is going up and your quality of health care will go down under Obamacare.
 

Uncle Ben

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You are still saving money.
They repeal obamacare and then you can enjoy getting ass raped by the insurance companies
I'd rather choose which insurance company does the ass raping as opposed to being forced to bend over by U.S. government.

Are you really this stupid?
 
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