Lollipopping ( Any Scientific Evidence? )

TexasHank

TexasHank

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chuck estevez said:
Haven't seen a difference that I could pinpoint, i had a few bugs issues i just got rid of and a new gavita light. I am seeing my biggest yields with the new light and using the citrus. But, I always had good plants with the FP too.
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Ah, ok.. you say it has a little different formulation though? More sulfur?
 
Uncle Ben

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TexasHank said:
We get some nice over night rain.. kinda ruined my plans for the day, but, I'm not going to complain.

You got the wildflower seeds planted? Very nice. That is going to look great. I hope to see it in the future.
I liked the plans you sent me to get that done.. Pretty thorough.. they should have an excellent opportunity to really take off..

I have got to get the fuck out of this city and out somewhere with some space.
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Worked out well. Strip 5' wide by 600' long along the highway inside. Using the tractor - 6 passes with a chisel to bust it up, lots of passes with 3 pt. tiller which made a fine seedbed, 2 passes with mix of seeds and washed sand broadcast behind a lawn mower. Got real frickin' lucky - just as I turned around after the second pass went about 5' and ran out of the sand mix. From the road it will be striking. Pound each of bluebonnets and TX/OK mix - https://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/wildseed/texasoklahomamix.html

I know quite a few people that are dieing to get out of Austin. Now's the time to do it. Call Capital Farm Credit for financial advice. They are great.

Good luck
 
Ninjabowler

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TexasHank said:
Yeah man.. good talking with you again.. have a good one

I bet like any technique it works better with some plants than others. My OG does really well with a 2 part harvest.. we were sitting around trimming it up a few wks ago and all chatting about how we liked what we were seeing with that technique, with that plant.
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Mine looked much better visually but the high was just not there. I just dont have the time anymore to harvest twice these days lol, once takes long enough :)
 
Uncle Ben

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Indoors or out, I've always done a double harvest. Have recommended it as long as I recommended the 4 main cola drill, like 15 years. It adds up and like a few of us said, there is scientific data published by Mel Franks via U. of Miss. labs reflecting that lower buds are usually potent than the upper main cola. Kids have this fake visual obsession, witness the stupid looking AN labels.
 
st0wandgrow

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Pepe le skunk said:
Recommend not wasting your time as this section has been hyjacked by Uncle Ben, Chuck Estevez and his follower Doer.
If you look at their post history you will see few pictures of their gardens if any. Could be the same ip address as chuck and Ben might be the same person with two accounts.

Facts:
Uncle Ben is not an employee at a dispensary.
He is not at the forefront of research in indoor growing of cannabis.
He is not doing large volume growing of cannabis indoors.
He has not written his method of growing indoors to increase yield and harvest the biggest most desired buds from a plant.
He does know how to grow trees and vines outdoors because he works at a garden center and has hours a day to post on a website.
He purposly spreads false information and trolls this section.

Here is what he says doesn't work.
Pruning and or lollypopping to increase desired large buds at the top of the canopy for maximum bud size while minimizing low branch larf.

He claims no pruning is necessary and you will have better results with higher yields from not lollypopping and pruning.
If this is not a claim you are making then what is your suggested grow method indoors because I have not seen it written anywhere.

Here is your chance to set the record straight Uncle Ben.
Tell us how to grow indoors and produce the biggest yield with the largest buds and smallest amount of larf.
Include overall plant size when done, container size to use and expected yield per container per 1000 Watt light.

Any one want to bet he does not answer the question?
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I just think it's funny that he shats all over people for removing a few lower branches, yet he advocates chopping off the top 2/3'rds of the plant. lol. :lol:
 
chuck estevez

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Uncle Ben said:
Wow, now aint that cool. Screw the NPK values and what's really important. We got cool shit like cha ching, beastie blooms and a 6" layer of super soil LOL. :bigjoint:
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OH NO UB, NOT just super soil , BUT recipe 420, like it's made special for MJ, because as we all Know, MJ uses different nutes than every other plant in the world.
 
TexasHank

TexasHank

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Pepe le skunk said:
Facts:
Uncle Ben is not an employee at a dispensary.
He is not at the forefront of research in indoor growing of cannabis.
He is not doing large volume growing of cannabis indoors.
He has not written his method of growing indoors to increase yield and harvest the biggest most desired buds from a plant.
He does know how to grow trees and vines outdoors because he works at a garden center and has hours a day to post on a website.
He purposly spreads false information and trolls this section.
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LOL.. UB doesn't work at a garden center dude.. I would disagree that he is spreading false info as well, but, you definitely got that one wrong..
 
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TexasHank

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Ninjabowler said:
Mine looked much better visually but the high was just not there. I just dont have the time anymore to harvest twice these days lol, once takes long enough :)
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Logistics, managing your own schedule, demands of your customer(s).. all these thing can make one persons convenient way of doing something a total nightmare for another.
I really have never noticed more than a slight difference in type of high and never a drop in potency with the 2nd harvest. but I can totally understand a technique not working for you due to the specifics of your situation and especially your schedule.

We all got our own shit going on..

That sucks it doesn't work for you though man as it has done me very well. I have seen increase in both marketability of lower buds and yield.. no legit experiments to confirm that but I do believe I have seen it..
Has worked better or some plants than others, ime.

Like say I have a total monoculture of og kush in my tent.. I probably would skip the 2 part harvest and just take it all at once. But lately I have been doing a tent with half og kush and half killing fields.. the KF takes 9-10 wks, the OG takes 8-9 wks.. So it works out just right.. 2 harvest sessions.. One is the OG tops and medium level, the 2nd is all the KF and the remainder of the OG.

You know what I am saying.. I also try to not make more work for myself.
 
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Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

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TexasHank said:
Logistics, managing your own schedule, demands of your customer(s).. all these thing can make one persons convenient way of doing something a total nightmare for another.
I really have never noticed more than a slight difference in type of high and never a drop in potency with the 2nd harvest. but I can totally understand a technique not working for you due to the specifics of your situation and especially your schedule.

We all got our own shit going on..

That sucks it doesn't work for you though man as it has done me very well. I have seen increase in both marketability of lower buds and yield.. no legit experiments to confirm that but I do believe I have seen it..
Has worked better or some plants than others, ime.

Like say I have a total monoculture of og kush in my tent.. I probably would skip the 2 part harvest and just take it all at once. But lately I have been doing a tent with half og kush and half killing fields.. the KF takes 9-10 wks, the OG takes 8-9 wks.. So it works out just right.. 2 harvest sessions.. One is the OG tops and medium level, the 2nd is all the KF and the remainder of the OG.

You know what I am saying.. I also try to not make more work for myself.
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Man that is exactly why i like you. Because you understand that there is no one perfect way to grow. We all strive for the best but perfection is unattainable. Keep up the good work buddy. :):):)
 
Jussblaz3420

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Uncle Ben said:
Wow, now aint that cool. Screw the NPK values and what's really important. We be using cool chit like cha ching, beastie blooms and a 6" layer of super soil. :bigjoint:
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chuck estevez said:
OH NO UB, NOT just super soil , BUT recipe 420, like it's made special for MJ, because as we all Know, MJ uses different nutes than every other plant in the world.
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Lmao yo im just sayin what im using if u wanna be immature and childish be my guest, u can go back to bed with uncle ben now hes been waitin for. The KY been ready for ya! Just one question, whos pitchin n whos receiving?
 
Jussblaz3420

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To me, it sounds like uncle ben is a miserable middle aged man wit a bullshit job and no future to look forward to so he comes on here to spread his misery
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Jussblaz3420 said:
To me, it sounds like uncle ben is a miserable middle aged man wit a bullshit job and no future to look forward to so he comes on here to spread his misery
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you sound like a stupid punk kid with no clue how to grow weed, sitting in your room on saturday night sucking down cheetos and mt.dew trying to play with men on the internet. Careful you don't step on one of those leggos on your floor.
 
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