Lollipopping ( Any Scientific Evidence? )

Ninjabowler said:

Hahahaaa, i could have told ya that wouldnt work lol. And no, i dont do whats in those pictures, thats hilarious and just bad growing practice. I have several outdoor grows planned for next year and once again ill probably just trim out some of the center in the bottom and maybe take off a couple small hidden, and short branches. I think arguing with mr. All or nothing never touch a fan leaf or youll lose 40% off your yield has made me look like a plant butcher as well. Ive seen first hand what these people harvest and it isnt much, theres no way i ever want my plants to look like that either. What mr. All or nothing needs to realize is that its all about a happy medium for the best results.

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Well it is a good thing you have no idea what you are talking about, then. It is quite entertaining.
You are not lollypopping at all.

TexasHank said:

And when the newschool MJ lines have all been bred into a corner of mutants.. you better hope someone still has some of these old school seeds..
I had to step up and say something..

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This is true but theres an abundance of these landrace seeds all over the world. Ive seen them in jamaica and africa first hand, ive never been to india or afghanistan, but im sure they have mountains of seeds there too. Right now id fucking kill for a bowl of some late 90s BC blueberry for breakfast

Waste not want not.

A bit of nug will get you through times of no money better than money will get your through times of no nug.

Jussblaz3420 said:

Lol my man i feed my plants everything they need, nitrogen is not an issue, like i said, everything is healthy as can be and has been for weeks, the very bottom leaves where theres hardly any light were the only ones to yellow off and since stripping them, havent had a single leaf turn yellow on me.

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Do you really think, you see the same frequencies, as these plants? Do you even know about PAR?

And can you see under there? Sure. So there is plenty under PAR under there.

Do you know that nitrogen is a transportable element around the plant? Are you aware that the girl will drop those leaves when they are done? Don't you realize that is a natural part of maturing?

And even if the leaf is less green it is still contributing to the total photosynthesis or else IT WOULD NOT BE THERE.

You are not smarter than these plants.

TexasHank said:

Yeah, sorry I thought you knew that..
I lost my HH name a while ago with a password change.. I can't remember for the life of me what I changed it to.. I was not coming around here too often and I just forgot it..

I've tried to get Admin to retrieve the password for me a few times, but it has not happened.

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I hear ya. You don't know how many times I've tried to register at a new cannabis forum only to find someone has taken my handle, latest one being IC Mag.

How about that rain! And just in time for the wildflower seeds I sowed yesterday. We got 2.24" as of 8:00. More after that.

Jussblaz3420 said:

Lol my man i feed my plants everything they need,

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And what would that be? NPK values, amount per gallon, etc.

Uncle Ben said:

But you ridicule those who are up to the challenge to grow what most consider the ultimate high?

.......I give up.

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Its the marketability that fails those tired genetics. If your smoking it all or giving away at christmas or newyears parties then put the bandana on and crank up the music to it. But if you want to supply the dispensary down the street ya better have your ducks in a row, and the ducks they want. To some growing is a little more serious than "dude, i got this crazy sativa in my yard, lets smoke it!"

Yeah, I have a kush plant that I do a two part harvest with and does REALLY well.. well, for an OG anyway.
It is simple.. cut off the top 2/3rds when you feel they are ready.. leave the bottom 3rd.. lower the lights.. run them for another 5-7 days.. harvest.

I get some real decent buds from that 2nd harvest.

Ninjabowler said:

Its the marketability that fails those tired genetics. If your smoking it all or giving away at christmas or newyears parties then put the bandana on and crank up the music to it. But if you want to supply the dispensary down the street ya better have your ducks in a row, and the ducks they want. To some growing is a little more serious than "dude, i got this crazy sativa in my yard, lets smoke it!"

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I have produced both in the past.. In general.. the kiddos all want the stoney nugget and the 40+ crowd wants quality sativas/sativa hybrids..
Also, the kiddos want to SEE quality.. The 40+ want to FEEL the quality.

The kiddos rate weed by how many hits it takes them to pass out.. 40+ want a cerebral experience that does not sink them into the couch.

Obviously, there are exceptions to the rule.. This is a broad statement. I mostly deal with the 40+ crowd though. They have more money to spend, they buy in bulk, they are the people I work and hang out with anyway, they like the weed I like.

Uncle Ben said:

I hear ya. You don't know how many times I've tried to register at a new cannabis forum only to find someone has taken my handle, latest one being IC Mag.

How about that rain! And just in time for the wildflower seeds I sowed yesterday. We got 2.24" as of 8:00. More after that.

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We get some nice over night rain.. kinda ruined my plans for the day, but, I'm not going to complain.

You got the wildflower seeds planted? Very nice. That is going to look great. I hope to see it in the future.
I liked the plans you sent me to get that done.. Pretty thorough.. they should have an excellent opportunity to really take off..

I have got to get the fuck out of this city and out somewhere with some space.

TexasHank said:

Yeah, I have a kush plant that I do a two part harvest with and does REALLY well.. well, for an OG anyway.
It is simple.. cut off the top 2/3rds when you feel they are ready.. leave the bottom 3rd.. lower the lights.. run them for another 5-7 days.. harvest.

I get some real decent buds from that 2nd harvest.

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Ha! I got crap from a second harvest once and decided to never do that again. Thats why i started taking the stuff off i dont want growing. I understand what your saying about the 40+ crowd though, but if you want to deal with those guys you have to know those guys. Id really only like to deal with one person. The guy behind the counter with the scale. Taker easy HH. The farms calling me again.

Uncle Ben said:

And what would that be? NPK values, amount per gallon, etc.

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Fox farms trio, calmag, cha ching, beastie blooms, and a 6" layer of super soil call recipe 420 fro eb stone

I prewater my plants for 10 seconds withtbhe sprayer hose in my sink then add the recommended feed to each gallon and give half a gallon to each plant

Jussblaz3420 said:

Fox farms cha ching

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I bet that works well on GHS's Money Maker.

Ninjabowler said:

Hahahaaa, i could have told ya that wouldnt work lol. And no, i dont do whats in those pictures, thats hilarious and just bad growing practice. I have several outdoor grows planned for next year and once again ill probably just trim out some of the center in the bottom and maybe take off a couple small hidden, and short branches. I think arguing with mr. All or nothing never touch a fan leaf or youll lose 40% off your yield has made me look like a plant butcher as well. Ive seen first hand what these people harvest and it isnt much, theres no way i ever want my plants to look like that either. What mr. All or nothing needs to realize is that its all about a happy medium for the best results.

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I have also removed some center bud sites on plants..

In Cervantes Grow Bible he has the picture of a cannabis plant, no leaves, just the branching..
He shows how you can remove grow sites from a branch, the lowest sites on the branch, and that will encourage the tip of the branch to grow faster.
Or, you can pinch out the growth tip and it will encourage those lower growth sites to grow faster.
He uses a small red line to mark where to cut.. maybe someone remembers it.. I can never find it. I have looked many times.

When I remove a bud site in the center of the plant this is what I have in mind.. I want that branch to grow taller.. so I remove sites (before the stretch) to encourage that branch to grow taller.

I like really tall side branching. When I really nail it you can barely tell a difference between most of the side branching and the main terminal.. but no topping was involved.

When I remove lower growth on the lowest branches I also have this in mind.. I want to see that lowest branch catch up and top out to just a few inches below the terminal. Some times I really nail it..
Sweet Tooth, Green Crack, Skunk plants.. these are the plants that I have had the most success with doing this. They just fill space so nicely.

I am just playing around some times.. Who knows if yields are improved or hurt..

Sativied said:

I bet that works well on GHS's Money Maker.

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Ninjabowler said:

This is true but theres an abundance of these landrace seeds all over the world. Ive seen them in jamaica and africa first hand, ive never been to india or afghanistan, but im sure they have mountains of seeds there too. Right now id fucking kill for a bowl of some late 90s BC blueberry for breakfast

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I really enjoyed Chimera's blueberry X Grapefruit.. He used DJ Shorts B130 male pollen, I think it was.. That is one to watch out for if you really like a good blueberry.. I am not familiar with "BC blueberry" but I would think DJ Short/Chimera would be a good bet.

I have always wanted to try out PeakSeedsBC Blueberry..

chuck estevez said:

Yeah, I was using just the Dyna FP, then went to the citrus feed because of the higher sulfur,per your guys recommendations. seeing great results, People don't believe I only use veg nutes.

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Hey Chuck.. I would like to try out this Citrus feed.. A few other people I talk shop with have done the same.

What have you seen between the two.. Fpro Vs Citrus feed?

TexasHank said:

Hey Chuck.. I would like to try out this Citrus feed.. A few other people I talk shop with have done the same.

What have you seen between the two.. Fpro Vs Citrus feed?

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Haven't seen a difference that I could pinpoint, i had a few bugs issues i just got rid of and a new gavita light. I am seeing my biggest yields with the new light and using the citrus. But, I always had good plants with the FP too.

Ninjabowler said:

Ha! I got crap from a second harvest once and decided to never do that again. Thats why i started taking the stuff off i dont want growing. I understand what your saying about the 40+ crowd though, but if you want to deal with those guys you have to know those guys. Id really only like to deal with one person. The guy behind the counter with the scale. Taker easy HH. The farms calling me again.

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Yeah man.. good talking with you again.. have a good one

I bet like any technique it works better with some plants than others. My OG does really well with a 2 part harvest.. we were sitting around trimming it up a few wks ago and all chatting about how we liked what we were seeing with that technique, with that plant.