New Wisconsin voter ID Law

UncleBuck

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Only when you don't count food stamps as welfare. Otherwise its 20% on food assistance alone.
nope.

46 million americans out of 316 works out to 14.56%.

considering more than half of those on food stamps work for a living, i would count it as welfare to the corporations who pay them unlivable wages.
 

NoDrama

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nope.

46 million americans out of 316 works out to 14.56%.

considering more than half of those on food stamps work for a living, i would count it as welfare to the corporations who pay them unlivable wages.
So its not 4% like you claimed?

Also its only about Americans (actual citizens). of which there are about 210 Million in the USA, the rest are on visas, non citizen immigrants, visitors and illegals. Makes it 20%.
 
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althor

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Is this similar to saying the only people who grow weed are those who have been caught?
So only like .0000000001 percent of the population grow weed. Got it.
 

UncleBuck

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So its not 4% like you claimed?

Also its only about Americans (actual citizens). of which there are about 210 Million in the USA, the rest are on visas, non citizen immigrants, visitors and illegals. Makes it 20%.
4% is the welfare number.

14.56% (not 20%) is the percentage of americans on food stamps.

nice attempt at bailing out your once again shitty mathematics.
 

NoDrama

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4% is the welfare number.

14.56% (not 20%) is the percentage of americans on food stamps.

nice attempt at bailing out your once again shitty mathematics.
So food stamps aren't welfare? You just said it was welfare, did you all of a sudden change your mind seeing as you contradicted yourself there?

I guess food stamps are a right, gonna go get me some, I qualify.

Oh yeah, and 14.?% is percent of PEOPLE In the USA on foodstamps, not Americans, you have to be a citizen to be called an american, college drop out boy.
 

ChesusRice

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1 This past week, The Daily Show interviewed Don Yelton about voter ID laws and the North Carolina GOP leader was more candid than anyone expected. “If it hurts a bunch of lazy blacks… so be it,” Yelton said. “The law is going to kick the Democrats in the butt.”

2 The Republican head of Pennsylvania’s state House stuck his foot in his mouth when he publicly listed voter ID laws on his list of conservative successes in 2012: “Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done,” Turzai said.

3 Conservative author and pundit Phyllis Schlafly took an aggressive stance in a recent article: “If the poorest members of society can obtain photo ID to get taxpayer-funded handouts, they should be able to do likewise for voting. The real reason the left wants to make sure that individuals without voter ID are allowed to vote is because they are expected to vote for Democrats.”

4 Not all Republicans who admit the intent of voter IDs do so accidentally; in the case of this North Carolina congressional candidate, he actually condemns it. Thigpen goes so far as to call the law/restrictions a turd: “You can paint a turd and sell it as art, but it’s still a turd,” he said. “This is 2013 and any legislator that puts forth such a discriminatory bill should be laughed out of office.”
Though Thigpen believes it is important to prevent voter fraud, he worries that necessitating citizens without the proper ID pay to obtain a photo ID could amount to a polling tax


5 The conservative judge appointed by Ronald Reagan to the federal Court of Appeals initially heard a pivotal case on voter IDs in Indiana back in 2005. At the time, Posner ruled against the challenge that the law would disenfranchise voters, finding that argument unfounded.
Years later, however, Posner has changed his tune. This year, he admitted his ruling was a mistake. He now says his colleague, Judge Terence T. Evans, was “right” in his dissent: “Let’s not beat around the bush: The Indiana voter photo ID Law is a not-too-thinly-veiled attempt to discourage election-day turnout by certain folks believed to skew Democratic.”


Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/5-republicans-who-are-getting-honest-about-voter-id-laws.html#ixzz3Fy9RxEtp
 

ChesusRice

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In an appearance on the Devil’s Advocate radio show (The Mic/92.1 FM) last week, Schultz told hosts Mike Crute and Dominic Salvia that his party’s support for a series of election law changes was indefensible.
“I am not willing to defend them anymore,” he explained when Salvia asked why Republicans sought to limit the number of voting hours a municipality could offer. “I’m just not and I’m embarrassed by this.”
Since announcing his retirement in the face of a tough primary challenge from conservative state Rep. Howard Marklein, R-Spring Green, the Republican iconoclast has become more strident in criticizing the party in which he has made a political career. Schultz has served as a legislator from southwestern Wisconsin since 1983, including two stints as Senate majority leader in 2003 and 2005.
Last week, Schultz argued that there were no legitimate justifications for some of the election reforms pushed by Republicans.
“It’s all predicated on some belief there is a massive fraud or irregularities, something my colleagues have been hot on the trail for three years and have failed miserably at demonstrating,” he said.
However, the suggestion that his party holds a sincere but misguided belief constituted one of Schultz’s gentler criticisms of the GOP. He hinted that Republicans are trying to gain an electoral advantage by depressing voter turnout.
“It’s just sad when a political party has so lost faith in its ideas that it’s pouring all of its energy into election mechanics,” Schultz said. “We should be pitching as political parties our ideas for improving things in the future rather than mucking around in the mechanics and making it more confrontational at the voting sites and trying to suppress the vote.”


Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/local/writers/jack_craver/dale-schultz-i-am-not-willing-to-defend-them-anymore/article_7c3598f2-ae16-11e3-8097-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz3FyAKQYNX
 

Canna Sylvan

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Just quit the pretense already and ban voting outright. Those like the OP vote. Voting is one of the official fallacies, Ad Populam. If enough people say something's true, the truth value doesn't change, only you got played for a fool.

Voting is something your parents did to you. They come up with "choices" with no alternatives.

If you want to be someone's bitch, vote.
 

Harrekin

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Issue voted in/out, if you do vote or if you don't.
Allowing someone a "choice" to choose between predetermined options isn't how you treat an adult population, it's how you treat small children.

The vote is a scam unless you have a choice in selecting the candidates.

You don't, the Parties do.

Deal with it, Mr Self Rule.
 

UncleBuck

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Once again, I'll ask for your experience in hopes of gaining more perspective (as well as anybody else reading this). According to your red/black graphic, 11% of adults don't have photo ID. Is this true for your family/friends? 1 in 10? Or does your voice not count?
why do you shun scientific polling, little g?
 
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