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AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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How does everyone feel about organic vs chemical nutes? I know it's a personal preference for growing, but do you organic growers feel the final product of organic is better than chemical or vice versa? Taste, smell, high, ect
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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I agree with ya Gen, if the Chem elements weren't the same as organic elements they wouldn't be able to use them I would imagine. Don't get me wrong I love growing organic outdoor for obvious reasons, but in the past when I've grown the same strain Chem and organic, no one could tell the difference, not even me, I even had someone say they thought the Chem. Tasted better. But I will say this, iif you give your plants too many Chem and there is an obvious od of nutes, that will affect the outcome. But after a nice cure I could never tell the difference and no one out of many people I've shared with could. Just curious because I hear many people say organic for flavor ect but maybe I did my organics wrong, I dunno
 
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oldman60

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My problem with chem is the salts and metal residue they leave behind.
I use a lot of guano high n, high p and worm castings and can recycle
my soil for a couple grows then it goes out in the yard for the garden.
I just recently started using FF Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom.
:peace:
 
genuity

genuity

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AlphaPhase said:
I agree with ya Gen, if the Chem elements weren't the same as organic elements they wouldn't be able to use them I would imagine. Don't get me wrong I love growing organic outdoor for obvious reasons, but in the past when I've grown the same strain Chem and organic, no one could tell the difference, not even me, I even had someone say they thought the Chem. Tasted better. But I will say this, iif you give your plants too many Chem and there is an obvious od of nutes, that will affect the outcome. But after a nice cure I could never tell the difference and no one out of many people I've shared with could. Just curious because I hear many people say organic for flavor ect but maybe I did my organics wrong, I dunno
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It's all about a balanced diet..
I for the most part,think it's more about the cure,than anything else..
I got some good organic plants going now
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This is what's in this mix
1. Crustacean Meal - NPK along with Chitin and Calcium

2. Kelp Meal - Acadian Seaplants Brand

3. Neem Cake - Ahimsa Brand

4. Karanja Cake - Ahimsa Brand

5. Brix Blend Basalt - Rock Dust Local Brand

6. Gypsum Dust - Mined in Colorado - Calcium and Sulfur

7. Glacial Rock Dust - Gaia Green

8. Oyster Shell Flour - Calcium

&

1 Part Brix Blend Basalt - Trace Minerals and High Paramagnetic Energy
1 Part Gypsum - Locally Mined in Colorado - Calcium and Sulfur
1 Part Oyster Flour - Mined from San Francisco Bay - High in Calcium
1 Part Glacial Rock Dust - Gaia Green Glacial Rock Dust - Trace Minerals
(1 Mineral Kit will mix with 1/2 Yard of soil) 1/2 Yard is = 13.5 Cubic Feet
Use at 4 Cups Per Cubic Foot

Nothing but water for them.and maybe a few teas.
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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No doubt Oldman, do organics leave behind less salts? Because I thought all nutes were salts as the plant uses them? I could be wrong, maybe it's different salts?
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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Very nice Gen! That's the type of organic I do when growing outdoor. I make a living ecosystem for the microbes and just add water and molasses to feed them 8-) It's the hardest soil to make, but the easiest to maintain
 
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oldman60

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AlphaPhase said:
No doubt Oldman, do organics leave behind less salts? Because I thought all nutes were salts as the plant uses them? I could be wrong, maybe it's different salts?
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They are different and organic salts are broken down easily by enzymes.
Metal salts aren't, that's the problem in lakes and rivers in agricultural regions
this is a big problem with the Mississippi delta and out into the gulf.
:peace:
 
curious old fart

curious old fart

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I've been mixing Square foot Gardening mix with a local, compost based soil and some perlite to which I've been feeding NaturalGuard Holly and Evergreen food and adding blood meal....and I only feed twice....once at up-canning and once when she goes into bloom.
I have been gifted rabbit compost to which I'm going to add leaf compost, lime, coir and vermiculite. It should be good to go from there.

:peace:
cof
 
BeastGrow

BeastGrow

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Good to know. But would Dolomite lime be beneficial to coco coir? I know that it also neutralizes the pH of the soil. For coco pH of 5.8 is recommended. Would that be a problem?
 
BeastGrow

BeastGrow

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i thought the lime didn't have much magnesium because i vaguely remember the garden lime i used was something like 27% calcium and 3% magnesium
 
giggles26

giggles26

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duchieman said:
Hey Giggles, nice kit. I started with the first digital Rebel and the same lenses. They'll do great to start with. I like all the other goodies they threw in, particularly the grey cards. I'd recommend the next thing you get is a tripod. It really is a must have. Anyway, here's a song for you.

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Comes with a full size 59" tripod and case. :)

Like I said the offer was to good to pass up!!
 
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