Yes or no ? Freedom or slavery ?

[Rob Roy]

Hell NO...That would cause chaos

Thank you for your response. Please tell me what you think chaos is and why you think it would result.

 

[londonfog]

Thank you for your response. Please tell me what you think chaos is and why you think it would result.

Chaos happens when you start a crazy thread promoting anarchy or when you abolish all the governmental controls and regulations

 

[callitgood]

Hell NO...That would cause chaos

I assumed when the op brought up "government" he means federal government.
That is the reason I would push the button, there wouldn't be the chaos you envision if the individual states retained government powers, in a limited role of course.

 

[londonfog]

I assumed when the op brought up "government" he means federal government.
That is the reason I would push the button, there wouldn't be the chaos you envision if the individual states retained government powers, in a limited role of course.

depending on the State...Mississippi would be a lot different then California

 

[Rob Roy]

Chaos happens when you start a crazy thread promoting anarchy or when you abolish all the governmental controls and regulations

Anarchy is the absence of a central authority, it doesn't embrace or create chaos, it simply prohibits a monopoly held in place by force and permits people the freedom to interact on a consensual basis.

Are you saying you believe that there should be some people that rule over others, even when those others are not bothering anyone? Why would you want that ?

 

[whitebb2727]

Push away. I would like to think a government, like its was in its infancy, would be nice. You know when it was expected that people protect themselves and their freedoms and rights.

 

[londonfog]

Anarchy is the absence of a central authority, it doesn't embrace or create chaos, it simply prohibits a monopoly held in place by force and permits people the freedom to interact on a consensual basis.

Are you saying you believe that there should be some people that rule over others, even when those others are not bothering anyone? Why would you want that ?

why do you think we have a government agency that regulates things like air travel. Would you really like to fly with no regulations on airlines.

 

[ginwilly]

I assumed when the op brought up "government" he means federal government.
That is the reason I would push the button, there wouldn't be the chaos you envision if the individual states retained government powers, in a limited role of course.

The hierarchy of power used to be my home, my community, my state, my country. The last 100 years has seen that power inverted. Giving nanny the most power has diminished the individuals ability to implement change.

Without federal input into marriage, we'd most likely have the vast majority of states recognizing gays marriages. Without the need to feed the monster, states like California could charge 50% income tax rates while states like Florida could still be tax free. Would be an interesting case study. Without nanny getting involved in health care we could have had 50 ideas to choose from instead of one bad idea forced on us.

Yes, I'm pushing the button.

 

[Rob Roy]

why do you think we have a government agency that regulates things like air travel. Would you really like to fly with no regulations on airlines.

There are regulations to provide jobs for parasites and to protect the empire.

I would love to fly absent regulations. Orville and Wilbur are laughing now....

 

[londonfog]

The hierarchy of power used to be my home, my community, my state, my country. The last 100 years has seen that power inverted. Giving nanny the most power has diminished the individuals ability to implement change.

Without federal input into marriage, we'd most likely have the vast majority of states recognizing gays marriages. Without the need to feed the monster, states like California could charge 50% income tax rates while states like Florida could still be tax free. Would be an interesting case study. Without nanny getting involved in health care we could have had 50 ideas to choose from instead of one bad idea forced on us.

Yes, I'm pushing the button.

What do you have against gay marriages ?

 

[ginwilly]

why do you think we have a government agency that regulates things like air travel. Would you really like to fly with no regulations on airlines.

I don't know, how would it be different? Do you think air traffic controllers wouldn't exist?

How bout the FDA banning 7 healthy cheeses that Europe enjoys on a daily basis because they are made with raw milk? From a health aspect, Kraft(all) processed cheese is much worse for us.

How about the EPA blocking clean up efforts of the gulf oil spill because the ship sent to clean was only 99.% pure when regulations required 99.9%. Leaving the oil was the option they chose.

We could do this all day. Yes we need regulations, no they don't need to be centralized.

 

[Rob Roy]

What do you have against gay marriages ?

Coercive government should not be involved in saying who can marry whom and if and when they can divorce.

Gay people that want the "equality" of coercive government blessed marriage are saying, "be shitty to me too".

Marriages that must be government approved.....hmmm... smells like Prima Noche never went away.

 

[londonfog]

There are regulations to provide jobs for parasites and to protect the empire.

I would love to fly absent regulations. Orville and Wilbur are laughing now....

so you would love to fly without mandatory pre-flight, post-flight, phase, A check, B check, C check, or D check inspections ?WOW just WOW

Fuck flight hours who cares right.... No need for flight logs. This is Rob Air we don't need no stupid inspections.

 

[ginwilly]

What do you have against gay marriages ?

How you read my post and came away with that assumption is very telling of your intelligence level and bias.

I'm blaming the federal government on gays not being able to marry, you read it as me being against gay marriage.....wow

 

[Rob Roy]

I don't know, how would it be different? Do you think air traffic controllers wouldn't exist?

How bout the FDA banning 7 healthy cheeses that Europe enjoys on a daily basis because they are made with raw milk? From a health aspect, Kraft(all) processed cheese is much worse for us.

How about the EPA blocking clean up efforts of the gulf oil spill because the ship sent to clean was only 99.% pure when regulations required 99.9%. Leaving the oil was the option they chose.

We could do this all day. Yes we need regulations, no they don't need to be centralized.

Amazon.com is a good example of free market feedback "regulating" an aspect of the market.

Coercive government lacks the proper feedback mechanisms, that a free market provides.

 

[ginwilly]

so you would love to fly without mandatory pre-flight, post-flight, phase, A check, B check, C check, or D check inspections ?WOW just WOW

Fuck flight hours who cares right.... No need for flight logs. This is Rob Air we don't need no sticky inspections.

So a pilot wouldn't go through a checklist without federal regulations demanding he do so, even though individual pilots do this every day...

 

[Rob Roy]

so you would love to fly without mandatory pre-flight, post-flight, phase, A check, B check, C check, or D check inspections ?WOW just WOW

Fuck flight hours who cares right.... No need for flight logs. This is Rob Air we don't need no sticky inspections.

You are mixing your variables. The absence of one does not imply or create the absence of the other.

In other words people can make safe choices without the nanny state sticking their nose in.

Drink any bleach lately ? No? Why not?

 

[londonfog]

Coercive government should not be involved in saying who can marry whom and if and when they can divorce.

Gay people that want the "equality" of coercive government blessed marriage are saying, "be shitty to me too".

Marriages that must be government approved.....hmmm... smells like Prima Noche never went away.

so why do some States try to ban same sex marriages ???

 

[ginwilly]

Amazon.com is a good example of free market feedback "regulating" an aspect of the market.

Coercive government lacks the proper feedback mechanisms, that a free market provides.

I can't tell if he needs to be told constantly what to do or he can't function or if he just believes this of his fellow man.

 

[londonfog]

So a pilot wouldn't go through a checklist without federal regulations demanding he do so, even though individual pilots do this every day...

EVERY plane in the air HAS to have some sort of inspection according to the flight hours per FAA. Lost of companies would take short cuts if this was not so