Yes or no ? Freedom or slavery ?

ginwilly

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so why do some States try to ban same sex marriages ???
It's that group think of "for the greater good". If the majority of citizens think gay marriage will bring on hellfire and the fall of society, then they use a coercive element to make everyone else toe the line.

Blame collectivism.
 

Rob Roy

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so why do some States try to ban same sex marriages ???

A state is a mechanism for controlling people, what else can it do?

Asking for permission to marry makes no sense. The only parties that should be involved are the parties engaging in the marriage, not some super daddy.

Why do you champion arranged marriages that can only be official when an agent with a gun (literally and figuratively) must bless it or it's "not real" ?
 

londonfog

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You are mixing your variables. The absence of one does not imply or create the absence of the other.

In other words people can make safe choices without the nanny state sticking their nose in.

Drink any bleach lately ? No? Why not?
So you think with no regulations every company would do the right thing..WTF
 

ginwilly

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the latter of the two. Some people are stupid and can't be trusted
So you feel it's your right to tell stupid people how to live? What ever happened to live and let live?

If someone wants to drink raw milk, I say let them. If someone wants to pray to a spaghetti monster in the sky, that's on them. If someone wants to believe you can borrow your way out of debt, they will soon learn the fallacy.
 

londonfog

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A state is a mechanism for controlling people, what else can it do?

Asking for permission to marry makes no sense. The only parties that should be involved are the parties engaging in the marriage, not some super daddy.

Why do you champion arranged marriages that can only be official when an agent with a gun (literally and figuratively) must bless it or it's "not real" ?
SO you should be able to marry your mother ???
 

Rob Roy

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So you think with no regulations every company would do the right thing..WTF

No. I think every consumer would act in their best interest and the service providers that do the right thing will flourish, those that don't will perish.

Amazon and E-bay have the opportunity to post feedback.....government doesn't....ever wonder why?
 

Rob Roy

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So you feel it's your right to tell stupid people how to live? What ever happened to live and let live?

If someone wants to drink raw milk, I say let them. If someone wants to pray to a spaghetti monster in the sky, that's on them. If someone wants to believe you can borrow your way out of debt, they will soon learn the fallacy.

I pray to the Elbow Macaroni Pasta god....those spaghetti pastafarian people are all fucked up with their rolling in the aisles and hallelujahs etc.
 

londonfog

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So you feel it's your right to tell stupid people how to live? What ever happened to live and let live?

If someone wants to drink raw milk, I say let them. If someone wants to pray to a spaghetti monster in the sky, that's on them. If someone wants to believe you can borrow your way out of debt, they will soon learn the fallacy.
What if some of us wanted to drive on the left side of the street and others on the right. What if some wanted a red light to mean go faster , yellow light means stop, and green was up to you...what then
 

ginwilly

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SO you should be able to marry your mother ???
Why not?

I should be able to not only marry my mother, but her dad, the next door neighbor and anyone else old enough to consent.

How can you argue for gay marriage and not polygamy or incest? It's about consenting adults. First cousins can marry in NY, why can't I marry my grandpa?
 

ginwilly

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What if some of us wanted to drive on the left side of the street and others on the right. What if some wanted a red light to mean go faster , yellow light means stop, and green was up to you...what then
You think that's what would happen? Wow you have a shitty opinion of your fellow man, no wonder you want to tell people how they should live.
 

Rob Roy

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What if some of us wanted to drive on the left side of the street and others on the right. What if some wanted a red light to mean go faster , yellow light means stop, and green was up to you...what then
Private roads solve that.

The owner(s) of the road would be incentivized to provide sensible safety rules on their roads.
 

londonfog

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You think that's what would happen? Wow you have a shitty opinion of your fellow man, no wonder you want to tell people how they should live.
Hey with no regulations or rules I should be able to do as I please. I hate stopping at red lights, but I do for a reason
 

Rob Roy

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Why not?

I should be able to not only marry my mother, but her dad, the next door neighbor and anyone else old enough to consent.

How can you argue for gay marriage and not polygamy or incest? It's about consenting adults. First cousins can marry in NY, why can't I marry my grandpa?

hey man I thought we agreed I had dibs on gramps and you get sis !! ?
 

ginwilly

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why can't someone be allowed to marry his/her mother. I mean you said no regulations right ?? Come on defend your stance or admit we need some type of regulations
Why do you think we need laws saying we can't? Do you think there would be a rush of mother/son weddings without them?

Do you think prohibition works?
 

Rob Roy

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why can't someone be allowed to marry his/her mother. I mean you said no regulations right ?? Come on defend your stance or admit we need some type of regulations
I'm not interested in marrying my mom.

I'm also not interested in harming others that want to marry their mom if all parties involved mututally assent. It's not my business to run others lives for them. Is it yours?
 

londonfog

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Why not?

I should be able to not only marry my mother, but her dad, the next door neighbor and anyone else old enough to consent.

How can you argue for gay marriage and not polygamy or incest? It's about consenting adults. First cousins can marry in NY, why can't I marry my grandpa?
incest has a high probability of creating retarded/disabled offsprings. Don't have sex with your sister
 
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