Unions arent bad

Aeroknow

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I'm on a cell phone you want compelling evidence how about name the city.
Oh, Like Stockton Ca?
It wasn't because of the union firefighter/police dept.
It was because of stupid spending while the bubble
was forming. Fast forward. They cut pay/retirements, and no one wants to work there now.
 

ChesusRice

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Detroit is in bankruptcy primarily due to the union payrolls.

Another part is that people in the city do not feel the need to pay their water bills and are shocked that their water is being shut off. In fact the UN has gotten involved to tell Detroit to turn the water back on. Personally I think we should tell the UN to fuck off and find someplace other than America to hold meetings but that is just me.
So the Auto industry moving out and a diminished tax collection didn't bankrupt the city the UNION did.
Surprised you aren't blaming the blacks as well.
Which is usually the only time you mention Detroit
 

NLXSK1

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So the Auto industry moving out and a diminished tax collection didn't bankrupt the city the UNION did.
Surprised you aren't blaming the blacks as well.
Which is usually the only time you mention Detroit
The diminished tax income caused the bankruptcy. The bloated union pensions were the reason. You act like a loss of income is something the government shouldnt be responsible or accountable for.

Go look at the spreadsheet for the city and see where the money is going. A huge chunk goes to paying pensions for people who no longer work for the city. Those are dollars that cannot go to operating expenses, cannot purchase police protection nor fire protection. Nobody wants to live in a shithole that doesnt have cops or firemen and the tax base continued to erode.

The museum had a collection worth something like 1/2 a billion dollars while the city was 12 billion dollars in debt.

Who do you want to blame?
 

Aeroknow

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So the Auto industry moving out and a diminished tax collection didn't bankrupt the city the UNION did.
Surprised you aren't blaming the blacks as well.
Which is usually the only time you mention Detroit
I should have also said the dimished property tax collection was to blame also in Stockton. My bad.
Whats fucked up is, it's always blue collar jobs, they feel the need to slash pay, as if that was the problem, and/or the solution.
 

NLXSK1

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Wut up Mongo?
I'm a union carpenter by trade, and union dues really aren't that bad at all.

I'll tell you this also: We get paid more than our non-union counterparts. By far!
Because of collective bargaining. Hourly+bennies+retirement.
We are also more trained because of our apprenticeship programs. IMO, as a developer, you would have to be retarded to choose a non-union shop to do something we do. Which is always commercial, sometimes residential.
You mention you get paid far more than other workers and dont seem to connect that to cities having financial problems.
 

Aeroknow

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You mention you get paid far more than other workers and dont seem to connect that to cities having financial problems.
Well, i'm the building trades end of it. Thank you

But do you think a union cop, in any city, is overpaid? Firefighters? Teachers?...........
C'mon man!
 

NLXSK1

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Well, i'm the building trades end of it. Thank you

But do you think a union cop, in any city, is overpaid? Firefighters? Teachers?...........
C'mon man!
Does anyone think they are overpaid?

If a city is in bankruptcy due to payroll, I think there may be a problem there.

I dont have a problem with private unions as long as they compete on equal footing. Public unions and private unions that operate under special rules I believe are unfair and problematic.
 

Aeroknow

Well-Known Member
So everyone should work for sweat shop wages?
Maybe they should hire illegals like you did
I work hard like a mofo, and still can't raise a family on my income alone. It's fucking bullshit.
I have a union plumber brother.
A union electrician brother.
It's all bad. In fact, it's down right embarassing.
Good thing for my friend BUD:bigjoint:
 

UncleBuck

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So everyone should work for sweat shop wages?
Maybe they should hire illegals like you did
maybe they should work for sweatshop wages, lihe he does.

$20 to scrub shit off of pools in the arizona sun? not even illegals want to do that.

that's teenager work.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Unions are the devil. They're the reason I didn't pursue a full teaching credential. My grandfather would show me the shit the teacher's union supported. So he one day told them to take his name off their mailing list and not to ever mention him. They did, but he still had to pay for what he didn't agee with.

Liberals force you to believe their garbage. They're only nice people if really believe. That's why I completely disagree with their philosophy. You're like damn Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses.

I don't fucking care. I'm not converting anyone to Buddhism. The last thing I need is to spend eternity in an enlightened state with someone like Buck or Sheskunk.
 

jahbrudda

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Progs always have an answer for how money should be paid out but they never have the answer to where it comes from.
It's like the employee who tells his employer how to run his business but can't start one of his own.
Why do you figure that is? :lol:
 
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