THCbreeder
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ANyone gave this model a shot. Whats your opinon on it?>
ADVANCED XTE100?
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captainmorgan
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I love how they act like the Cree XT-E is the latest and greatest LED tech,it was for Cree a couple years ago but is like 3 generations behind what you can buy from them now. You can get Cree LED's that put out more than twice the light per watt.
Heavy Consumer
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Ay ay Cap'n! That comment was almost helpful for noobs like me with less knowledge than your good self. Please would you clarify something for me and also the OP; was the "them" in your post Cree or Advanced. And which panels contain these diodes that put out double the light per Watt please? Sounds like interesting info for us low-information newcomers to have. I'm not trying to annoy you, just hoping for the benefit of your knowledge and experience. Thanks in advance. Any info will be greatly appreciated.
Striking Gold
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I have the xte 100 and xte 200 and they are growing some straight up dank. They are really really really dense nugs. Usually a whole jar equals and ounce but now half a jar is it. I am so surprised at how smelly they are too but it could just be the genetics! 
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THCbreeder
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Nice ! What area you covering with both of yours ?I have the xte 100 and xte 200 and they are growing some straight up dank. They are really really really dense nugs. Usually a whole jar equals and ounce but now half a jar is it. I am so surprised at how smelly they are too but it could just be the genetics!
Striking Gold
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3x3 tent it does a damn good job of it, scrogging.
Even the bottom nugs are dense!
Even the bottom nugs are dense!
captainmorgan
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They use marketing speak on the site,the pic of the Cree LED says "highest performing silicon-carbide technology". That statement might be true but what most people don't know is Cree uses other tech also that is newer and out performs that LED by a wide margin. It's not that the XT-E is a bad LED,it's just out dated and they don't say what bin they're using which can also have a huge impact on performance. Area 51's line that's being retired for the new model have been using high bin XT-E's. Onyx panels use XM-L2's right now but they are upgrading to XP-L's soon and Area 51 will be using XP-L's in their new panels also. So if you look at performance increase from Cree the order would be XT-E then XM-L then XM-L2 then XP-L.
Striking Gold
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Your speculating though, you really have no knowledge first hand of the product. Basically your assumptions could go either way however I have the light and compared to the rest you can see the brightness shine through. The xte is hitting 3 feet down, even my smallest nugs are hard as a rock. They are a little pricey and that would be the only reason I would go with Area51 instead. BUT my assumption is based on others experiences and not my own so who knows.
we can all speculate but until you shell out the money and try it there is no real way you can tell others the exact truth of the matter.
(one thing I have noticed is that they run cooler than all the other LED's I have which is surprising because the other models don't run that hot either. But when you are thinking of going big you need to take into account every added temperature of heat so you don't go too hot)
captainmorgan
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Don't know how I'm speculating or making assumptions when all I did was list facts about Crees LED tech and the order of the generations and efficiencies. I even said the XT-E was a good LED for it's time. I still use LED panels with XT-E's and XM-L2's and I have already retired some of my lights with XT-E's in favor of newer LED tech including CXA 3070's and will soon be getting some XP-L lights.
Striking Gold
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You have no knowledge of the parts they use and so you assume they are cheap
Eraserhead
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There's newer generations of Cree LEDs than the XTE, it's not speculation, it's a fact.
In chronological order: XPE, XPG/XML, XTE/XPG2/XML2/XPE2, XPL.
XTEs are good above average LEDs, and are better than 95% of what other companies use.
Cree has the XTE2s planned for the next few months, they have similar numbers as the XPLs.
I gotta give Advanced some credit though, they've come a long way since 2011.
In chronological order: XPE, XPG/XML, XTE/XPG2/XML2/XPE2, XPL.
XTEs are good above average LEDs, and are better than 95% of what other companies use.
Cree has the XTE2s planned for the next few months, they have similar numbers as the XPLs.
I gotta give Advanced some credit though, they've come a long way since 2011.
Eraserhead
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Advanced doesn't say the parts they use, so NO ONE knows. If they don't say, maybe they have something to hide?
You're new here, you should relax, stop lashing out at the people that have been here for years, you won't last too long.
You're new here, you should relax, stop lashing out at the people that have been here for years, you won't last too long.
captainmorgan
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If they have nothing to hide why don't they tell you the bin range they use,that has a huge effect on performance. They're better than a lot of them out there,at least they disclose they're using XT-E's,most will only give you the brand name. You seem defensive about me pointing out you can get lights with better LEDs,and I didn't even throw in the point that you can get them for around the same price per watt or cheaper.
Area 51 lists the part numbers on their web site and Onyx told me what they use including the bin just by making a phone call to them. When a company won't disclose basic facts about off the shelf parts they use,it's makes me suspicious.
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Heavy Consumer
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Please excuse my ignorance, but this seems to have evolved into a discussion about Cree diodes. How come no one has referred once to the Osram diodes included in the Advanced lights? It's a genuine question. Here in Europe, Osram is a well established lighting brand. I know just as little about their LED's as I do Cree's (nothing!), but surely they perform some function in the Advanced XTE panels..?? Is it not possible that the combination of the Cree and Osram diodes used results in enhanced performance?
captainmorgan
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The OP's first thread asked about the choice between Area 51 and AdvancedXTE which both use Cree XT-E's. Osram has a great reputation too and Area 51 will be switching from Cree reds to Osram reds in their next panel (the reason for that is a change in nm range)and upgrading to Cree XP-L's for their whites. The only point I was trying to make was the age of the XT-E LEDs vs the newer ones.
Heavy Consumer
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Thanks for your patience with me. And just as importantly, thanks a lot for the info'.
captainmorgan
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I don't think I would recommend any particular light unless I have used it or know the parts it uses including bins or have seen side by side comparison grows against a proven performing light by a trusted source.
Yodaweed
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Lasting long isn't a problem of mine
