Is Wealth Inequality the Future of Capitalism?

ttystikk

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Wrong.

Nuke power is the agenda of the Left. It is the counter to the guilt of Global Warming.
I'm a leftie, and I'm advocating- and actively getting involved in- fuel cell and biodigester technology. It can convert pigshit into both power AND fertilizer! It's the liberal's Holy Grail!
 

Canna Sylvan

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I'm a leftie, and I'm advocating- and actively getting involved in- fuel cell and biodigester technology. It can convert pigshit into both power AND fertilizer! It's the liberal's Holy Grail!
You're not getting play from the likes of Zooey Deschanel, though.
 

Canna Sylvan

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I'm totally going with this. Liberal environmental tree hugging ideals... and bacon. There's just no stopping this idea.
I read your grow journal. You advocate waste as little as possible. How do you rationalize it takes over 3 pounds of grain to get one pound of bacon, along with the transportation wastes with the 2 extra pounds?
 

Glaucoma

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I read your grow journal. You advocate waste as little as possible. How do you rationalize it takes over 3 pounds of grain to get one pound of bacon, along with the transportation wastes with the 2 extra pounds?
A pound of steak has 10x the calories as a pound of broccoli.

Meat rules.
 
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ttystikk

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I read your grow journal. You advocate waste as little as possible. How do you rationalize it takes over 3 pounds of grain to get one pound of bacon, along with the transportation wastes with the 2 extra pounds?
Beats the living shit out of ten pounds for beef, requires less acreage, everything requires transportation so that's a wash-

and the trump card; bacon.
 

Doer

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I'm a leftie, and I'm advocating- and actively getting involved in- fuel cell and biodigester technology. It can convert pigshit into both power AND fertilizer! It's the liberal's Holy Grail!
I know you are a leftie and and I know you think all that is meaningful, but I say, it is not.
 

ttystikk

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I know you are a leftie and and I know you think all that is meaningful, but I say, it is not.
Bacon.

I have a better record than most at foreseeing the technological future. It would be unwise to bet against me.
 

ttystikk

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Well, when you put it that way, I do see meaning. :)
On a slightly more serious note, the attractions of generating one's own electricity and doing it from waste products are irresistible in the medium term for farmers, who must often deal with unstable power in rural areas.

I chose the pig farming industry with intention; their most recent and profitable barn designs have been BLOWING UP, catching fire and killing the herd inside. Why? Because this plan calls for building a concrete basement under said new barn... so they don't have to pump out the pigshit for YEARS at a time! The inevitable fermentation happens, methane builds up in the barn and one spark sets the whole thing off. There are hundreds of these barns, and dozens have burned in the past few years just as I've described.

It's completely insane, of course; not only is it a health and safety disaster waiting to blow up in the farmer's face, that waste product rotting under the barn could be cheaply reprocessed using biodigester technology. The main outputs are pasture ready composted fertilizer, much better than simply spraying pigshit directly on the ground, and methane, which is a hydrocarbon fuel source. One can burn it for heat, but using a fuel cell to process it gives the owner both electrical power AND heat, both big advantages in terms of saving costs.

Of course, Big Ag will likely jump on this innovation first since they can afford the steep initial investment. Because of the incredible benefits to the environment and the economy, we should subsidize the adoption of fuel cells everywhere, but especially to small farmers.

The boost to agricultural production and energy production, as well as the technological innovation brought about by the widespread adoption of fuel cells and smart grid technology would create an economic boom in this country the likes of which haven't been seen since 1998. Since it would be based on substantial productivity and technological gains, it need not be a boom and bust kind of cycle, either, just good old good times for everyone, not merely the 1 percenters.
 

ttystikk

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Just copied this from the Canadian medical patients thread;

Records obtained under the Access to Information Act show that Health Canada pays $328.75 for each kilogram of bulk medical marijuana
produced by Prairie Plant Systems Inc. The company currently has a $10.3-million contract with Health Canada, which expires at the end of September, to grow standardized medical marijuana in an abandoned mine shaft in Flin Flon, Man. Health Canada, in turn, sells the marijuana to a small group of authorized users for
$150 - plus GST - for each 30-gram bag of ground-up flowering tops, with a strength of up to 14 per cent THC, the main active ingredient. That works out to $5,000 for each kilogram, or a markup of more than 1,500 per cent.

A. It doesn't cost very much to grow

B. No one is above corruption; HC should be cleaned out of its bureaucrats completely; all of them fired for incompetence and indifference to patient suffering.

C. The only way to stop price gouging- by everyone- is to produce so much that it floods the market and drives the price down.
 

Doer

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On a slightly more serious note, the attractions of generating one's own electricity and doing it from waste products are irresistible in the medium term for farmers, who must often deal with unstable power in rural areas.

I chose the pig farming industry with intention; their most recent and profitable barn designs have been BLOWING UP, catching fire and killing the herd inside. Why? Because this plan calls for building a concrete basement under said new barn... so they don't have to pump out the pigshit for YEARS at a time! The inevitable fermentation happens, methane builds up in the barn and one spark sets the whole thing off. There are hundreds of these barns, and dozens have burned in the past few years just as I've described.

It's completely insane, of course; not only is it a health and safety disaster waiting to blow up in the farmer's face, that waste product rotting under the barn could be cheaply reprocessed using biodigester technology. The main outputs are pasture ready composted fertilizer, much better than simply spraying pigshit directly on the ground, and methane, which is a hydrocarbon fuel source. One can burn it for heat, but using a fuel cell to process it gives the owner both electrical power AND heat, both big advantages in terms of saving costs.

Of course, Big Ag will likely jump on this innovation first since they can afford the steep initial investment. Because of the incredible benefits to the environment and the economy, we should subsidize the adoption of fuel cells everywhere, but especially to small farmers.

The boost to agricultural production and energy production, as well as the technological innovation brought about by the widespread adoption of fuel cells and smart grid technology would create an economic boom in this country the likes of which haven't been seen since 1998. Since it would be based on substantial productivity and technological gains, it need not be a boom and bust kind of cycle, either, just good old good times for everyone, not merely the 1 percenters.
I see. I happen to like the duckweed
/talpia/
chicken/
vegetable garden cycle

Pigs are not as easy to feed but you do get the methane .
 

Harrekin

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I see. I happen to like the duckweed
/talpia/
chicken/
vegetable garden cycle

Pigs are not as easy to feed but you do get the methane .
Not enough actual methane for any sort of self sufficiency tho.

It's like putting a very VERY expensive 100watt PV panel on your house and expecting a ROI.
 

ttystikk

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I see. I happen to like the duckweed
/talpia/
chicken/
vegetable garden cycle

Pigs are not as easy to feed but you do get the methane .
I'll run ciclids in warm water, use the water to cool my op, raise ducks on the same hot tub pond, grow garden veggies and vegging ganja girls. Fresh produce, fish, eggs, ducks. AND it's a heat sink.

Tonight's warm up for that eventual feat is the building and installation of a compressorless chiller made from the radiator from a recently departed Mitsubishi Lancer. The water will pass through the radiator and the fans will draw cold air through the radiator and chill the water.

It only works if outside temps are cooler than the temperature of my cooling circuit, but this is Colorado...and it IS almost November, so I'm not too worried about it for the next few months!

So far, I've got the radiator and fans all set up and working. Now for the installation of the water lines and seeing just how much of a difference she makes!
 
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Harrekin

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I'll run ciclids in warm water, use the water to cool my op, raise ducks on the same hot tub pond, grow garden veggies and vegging ganja girls. Fresh produce, fish, eggs, ducks. AND it's a heat sink.

Tonight's warm up for that eventual feat is the building and installation of a compressorless chiller made from the radiator from a recently departed Mitsubishi Lancer. The water will pass through the radiator and the fans will draw cold air through the radiator and chill the water.

It only works if outside temps are cooler than the temperature of my cooling circuit, but this is Colorado...and it IS almost November, so I'm not too worried about it for the next few months!

So far, I've got the radiator and fans all set up and working. Now for the installation of the water lines and seeing just how much of a difference she makes!
If you made the coolant system a closed circuit, adding motor coolant and used a heat exchanger you could have something very sexy.

Remember tho, a car radiator primarily cools itself by the car being in motion, the fan is only a stop gap measure if your stuck in hardcore traffic, etc.
 

NoDrama

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That's more than likely the reason if you asked most conservatives as that mentality is inherent in right wing ideology

To most other people, earning money is a means of survival, not an aspect to gloat about or flaunt. That isn't to say there aren't a lot of people that do those things, but that doing them is not an inherent trait of capitalism
So what you are saying is that people are greedy by nature and have no problem stepping on their neighbor to get some?
 
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