Curing, a myth perpetuated by bad growers

ttystikk

ttystikk

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st0wandgrow said:
What's there to stick up for? Stating that a *breeder* who lives in a legal state has access to great genetics is not an insult.

Even if it were he's a big boy capable of sticking up for himself. He doesn't need some fan boy doing it for him
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You got it allllllll wrong. Not a surprise, but it's clearly a waste of time trying to reason with you.
 
Thecouchlock

Thecouchlock

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I have smoked a lot of weed in my day and I will say the best I have ever smoked was my own. No it wasn't the most potent but it was up there and what makes the biggest difference to me is wether I can smoke a whole joint from start to finish with white ash and no coughing (until I get down to the end of the j). I have yet to find any commercial grower have this trait in their buds, I always find the dark black ash and a choke that hurts, even the smoke coming out my nose burns my nostrils and the inside of my eyes.

I don't know if a cure can really help this, to me the black ash just means there is a lot of garbage left in the flowers and white ash means the garbage is mostly out. I am no PHD or Masters but my own scientific experiences have shown me that smoking your own Is the only way to go.
 
Cannasutraorganics

Cannasutraorganics

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MuckyDucky said:
Ok, found an old bottle put up in a cool dark place for 4 years. The first picture below is what it looked like. I was surprised the trichs looked as good as they did. When I squeezed the nug it stayed compressed and still stuck together.

I think this is nasty looking compared to fresh.
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And some newer stored buds..
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Great pics. The skunk is nasty looking. But not in a bad way. That's couch lock waiting to happen.be
Ace Yonder said:
I probably wouldn't have been able to either hahaha, it literally made me laugh when your post popped up, I haven't stopped smiling since, it just tickles me for some reason
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cause you make so few mistakes and when you do it's usually while bitching about that same thing. It's because we dislike in others the same things we strive for our selves. And we as humans fuk up sometimes.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Thecouchlock said:
I have smoked a lot of weed in my day and I will say the best I have ever smoked was my own. No it wasn't the most potent but it was up there and what makes the biggest difference to me is wether I can smoke a whole joint from start to finish with white ash and no coughing (until I get down to the end of the j). I have yet to find any commercial grower have this trait in their buds, I always find the dark black ash and a choke that hurts, even the smoke coming out my nose burns my nostrils and the inside of my eyes.

I don't know if a cure can really help this, to me the black ash just means there is a lot of garbage left in the flowers and white ash means the garbage is mostly out. I am no PHD or Masters but my own scientific experiences have shown me that smoking your own Is the only way to go.
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whats a commercial grower?
 
Thecouchlock

Thecouchlock

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a mongo frog said:
whats a commercial grower?
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Someone who would enter the collective I worked for and try to offer me their product. That to me is commercial. If you are growing for personal use (yourself and your family) that is different. When one grows for others they take less caution in using less research in the products they use on their garden and less precautions.

For example, in my garden you won't find eagle 20, riptide, avid, or any of that crap. You won't see me trying to cut out mold from my buds to make weight or doing any shady tactics that have been used in the industry. One that never gets past me is when people rehydrate their buds, you can use a shower or humidipaks but I can tell if the bud went from dry as fuck to wet as fuck real easy.

I have asthma and so I like clean safe medicine, that is what most commercial growers are not. I have too many horror stories about what is offered to go on the market. Even if my collective rejected it the one down the street may not.

im high as fuck btw so hope that makes sense [edited in]
 
greenghost420

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what does that rehydrating to for the bud? i had someone ask me what i thought about it. said i would never do it but couldnt explain why i wouldnt lol i said at the least its gotta kill flavor n smells. they said it made it brought the smell back to bricked bud. whats the deal on this rehydrating bulshit?
 
Thecouchlock

Thecouchlock

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greenghost420 said:
what does that rehydrating to for the bud? i had someone ask me what i thought about it. said i would never do it but couldnt explain why i wouldnt lol i said at the least its gotta kill flavor n smells. they said it made it brought the smell back to bricked bud. whats the deal on this rehydrating bulshit?
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It makes the buds springy but it does NOT bring back any resemblance of smell. What it does is makes the joint burn all fucked up and just doesn't feel right. It is very hard to describe but if you let a nug dry out really bad and then rehydrate it you will see what I mean.

It makes the smoke just not pleasant
 
MuckyDucky

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Cannasutraorganics said:
Great pics. The skunk is nasty looking. But not in a bad way. That's couch lock waiting to happen.
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That 4 yr old Skunk was surprising good and long lasting. Everything is couch locky to me so can't tell if it is more than my fresh kush. When I sampled I was really expecting something sub par.... wasn't the case at all. I tried to be fair and snapped the best shots I could find of the trichs on all 3 samples.
:eyesmoke::roll::sleep:......
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Thecouchlock said:
Someone who would enter the collective I worked for and try to offer me their product. That to me is commercial. If you are growing for personal use (yourself and your family) that is different. When one grows for others they take less caution in using less research in the products they use on their garden and less precautions.

For example, in my garden you won't find eagle 20, riptide, avid, or any of that crap. You won't see me trying to cut out mold from my buds to make weight or doing any shady tactics that have been used in the industry. One that never gets past me is when people rehydrate their buds, you can use a shower or humidipaks but I can tell if the bud went from dry as fuck to wet as fuck real easy.

I have asthma and so I like clean safe medicine, that is what most commercial growers are not. I have too many horror stories about what is offered to go on the market. Even if my collective rejected it the one down the street may not.

im high as fuck btw so hope that makes sense [edited in]
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yes makes total sense thanks. i did however thought collectives test for those harmful products you mentioned. after all this is a medical industry. so if one has 3 1k lamps and harvests 3 plus units and vends his/her medicine to a dispensary, is that considered a commercial grow? and amount of lamps have nothing to do with it. I'm sorry I'm still a little confused.
 
Ace Yonder

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MuckyDucky said:
I just tried the 4 yr old bud and I was surprised. It wouldn't be fair to compare the strength of it to the fresher stuff since it is different batches but the 4 yr old bud packed a similar kick as my freshly bottled bud. It doesn't look as good and it does not have any bag odor but it still had a pleasant fuel flavor when I vaped it. The buz may be a little flatter or maybe it's my imagination since that is what I have been told.

I would happily smoke it if I did not have the fresh stuff and I would certainly offer it to guest... especially weed bums!!
:bigjoint:
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I would LOVE to be your guest! :weed:bongsmilie
 
Ace Yonder

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greenghost420 said:
what does that rehydrating to for the bud? i had someone ask me what i thought about it. said i would never do it but couldnt explain why i wouldnt lol i said at the least its gotta kill flavor n smells. they said it made it brought the smell back to bricked bud. whats the deal on this rehydrating bulshit?
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I personally think it is based on a faulty assumption. Bud stops curing once the humidity drops below about 55% (Measured by putting bud in jar, letting sit, measuring humidity of jar), and some people think that if you had let it dry to fast, without fully curing, then by re-hydrating it you could allow the curing process to continue. Personally I believe that when curing stops at 55% it's because the majority of the microbes responsible for the breakdown of chlorophyll have died, and re-hydrating the bud probably won't bring them back. IMO, the only thing re-hydrating it will do is re-introduce the possibility of mold. That's why a slow dry is so important to the curing process.


I may take this part out later because I am very high and it may not make sense, but I just thought of a (in my mind) very clever way of remembering this. "Living thing - Water = Dead Thing. Dead Thing + Water = Mold/Fungus/Decay"
 
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