Supercropping effects

[Squidbilly]

Thanks a lot man! I will definitely keep it up!
Sounds awesome! Great yield. I am really looking forward to seeing the benefits in yield also. My results will of course be a bit sketchy since only one of my two main branches is supercropped. But i am pretty sure i will be able to see some difference.

Experiment with it in veg next time you get a chance. Once my plants are vigorously growing in veg I start bending what ever branches are the tallest. When you do that, the auxins in the plant tell it that it is no longer the dominant 'top' and it will send up lower branches to the canopy. Keep bending the branches that want to be dominant and pretty soon you'll have a sweet little bush with multiple tops that are realitively even with each other, no topping required...

That being said, I also like topping my plants...same principal as bening in a sense. If a clone is growing much taller than my others, I am inclined to top it as long as it has at least 4 nodes. This will almost stop vertical growth for a few days to week, and all the lower branches will start to grow and catch up to the top. By this time, the top has healed and created two tops. Now you'll have a bunch of branches of start bending once they keep growing out.

Using these training methods you should be able to fill in your canopy like a puzzle, and the end result should be something like a scrog - for example, I fill almost an entire 4x4 footprint with just 6 small plants(under 30" fully mature) - I just use stakes when I need to, and I often need to having so many colas on each plant

 

[Squidbilly]

I have learned that it's best to bend at least few hours after they have been watered and are nice and saturated. I do not recommend bending the day before your suppose to water - the drier they are, they easier they break instead of bend- usually nothing tape can't fix though...

Adding silica will also makes your plants super pliable, great if your into supercropping/bending. If your using a ph up product, toss it and use a silica supplement instead - it's a very potent PH up and plants love it, it makes them more tolerable to stress as well. It's one of the few supplements that has a noticable effect on your plants. They become 'supple' to the touch and reisis heat and drought much better. Once i discovered this I felt like an idiot for ever using ph up in the first place.

If your not using a ph up product forget it - it's such a strong ph up that you'll probably need ph down, lol.

 

[Groowin]

I have learned that it's best to bend at least few hours after they have been watered and are nice and saturated. I do not recommend bending the day before your suppose to water - the drier they are, they easier they break instead of bend- usually nothing tape can't fix though...

Adding silica will also makes your plants super pliable, great if your into supercropping/bending. If your using a ph up product, toss it and use a silica supplement instead - it's a very potent PH up and plants love it, it makes them more tolerable to stress as well. It's one of the few supplements that has a noticable effect on your plants. They become 'supple' to the touch and reisis heat and drought much better. Once i discovered this I felt like an idiot for ever using ph up in the first place.

If your not using a ph up product forget it - it's such a strong ph up that you'll probably need ph down, lol.

Some great insight there, thanks!
I didn't think about the timing with the watering, but it makes very good sense. Actually when i "broke my plant" it was in the morning on the day that i was going to water. Even though this turned out fine, i guess a more saturated branch wouldn't have broken as badly as this one did, and the tape + toothpick may not have been necessary. I was trying to be careful and only bend the branches down, and had been doing it for some days then. The branch that didn't brake still has this nice S shape, but it is running away from the canopy slightly now as you can see in the first post.

I also did a topping fairly early in veg. Topped the fifth set of leaves. I intended to make it a scrog grow at the time, but chose just to try this lst way of controlling the canopy instead, and i kinda liked having these two mains going on so i stopped topping from there and began the bending them down.

I will certainly experiment with this! I am planning to do the next grow somewhat similar to this grow, but intentionally supercropping the two mains, and do everything i can to keep the canopy even that way + lst. After this grow i can certainly see that it is possible.

I am already using ph down for my water so silica would be kinda working against my ph. I am using tap water atm because i don't have a RO filter at hand. But i will keep it in mind for sure in case i get one at some point.

 

[tekdc911]

some strands don't like it

i think this strand likes it..........

 

[MASTERofTHEgrowers]

that's great ! can you teach me the ways to grow and suppercrop like that?

 

[weedenhanced]

Hi there.

I am a new grower so experience is obviously not what my bag is filled with here. But i did a test, unintentionally actually, regarding the effects of supercropping. I topped the fifth set of leaves so i had two main stems, and after some weeks while i were attempting to LST them down so they would align better with the canopy, one of them accidentally broke badly. I was aware of supercropping at the time, but i did not plan on using it. I tried to repair it with tape and a broken toothpick, but i didn't o that very well. Which turned out to be a good thing.

This gave me a very clear picture of the benefits of supercropping, and i thought i would share that with other new growers or anyone looking into the effects of supercropping.

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A hard break is not super croppin lol for super croppin u want to squeeze hard all around slight twist and let it drop if u break it that's accident it does happen u just add a bit honey and tape up with a duct tape

 

[Groowin]

A hard break is not super croppin lol for super croppin u want to squeeze hard all around slight twist and let it drop if u break it that's accident it does happen u just add a bit honey and tape up with a duct tape

I am aware of what supercropping means, but the effects of supercropping that i am referring to is mainly the redirection of energy, which is the same regardless. Honey may be help a bit but it doesn't seem to be necessary.

 

[weedenhanced]

I am aware of what supercropping means, but the effects of supercropping that i am referring to is mainly the redirection of energy, which is the same regardless. Honey may be help a bit but it doesn't seem to be necessary.

Honey makes it clean like a plant disinfectant and also helps to seal up the break ..sometimes when u get a bad break that 1 stem will hermie later on during flower I've had it happen but do as u please

 

[MattDash]

Some great insight there, thanks!
I didn't think about the timing with the watering, but it makes very good sense. Actually when i "broke my plant" it was in the morning on the day that i was going to water. Even though this turned out fine, i guess a more saturated branch wouldn't have broken as badly as this one did, and the tape + toothpick may not have been necessary. I was trying to be careful and only bend the branches down, and had been doing it for some days then. The branch that didn't brake still has this nice S shape, but it is running away from the canopy slightly now as you can see in the first post.

I also did a topping fairly early in veg. Topped the fifth set of leaves. I intended to make it a scrog grow at the time, but chose just to try this lst way of controlling the canopy instead, and i kinda liked having these two mains going on so i stopped topping from there and began the bending them down.

I will certainly experiment with this! I am planning to do the next grow somewhat similar to this grow, but intentionally supercropping the two mains, and do everything i can to keep the canopy even that way + lst. After this grow i can certainly see that it is possible.

I am already using ph down for my water so silica would be kinda working against my ph. I am using tap water atm because i don't have a RO filter at hand. But i will keep it in mind for sure in case i get one at some point.

I might suggest buying the purified water that comes in the 3 gallon jugs or 2.5 gallon, depending it will provide a noticeable difference in your plants nearly over night. this goes for house plants as well.

 

[roldgoldrlg]

You should take a pic with the light off and flash on, I bet they look lovely! I must add that the resin production on the one I supercropped is noticeably higher than the other 3.

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[Groowin]

I might suggest buying the purified water that comes in the 3 gallon jugs or 2.5 gallon, depending it will provide a noticeable difference in your plants nearly over night. this goes for house plants as well.

That is no bad idea at all, but i have no car, and since she is drinking a lot it would be a bit to extensive. Also i plan to buy a RO filter for my next grow. I can actually get one where i live for about 100$. Plus this will allow me to see the actual difference from using tap water to RO filtered water.

 

[tyke1973]

FORGET SUPERCROPPING,

SCROG ,far plant friendlier just keep tucking the tops under the netting,if you are doing it in a small area then to control the height just either scrog from start of flower or double net.

I think that supercropping effects the flow of nutrients that the plant receives,a bit like drinking through a straw that has been bent.

 

[Groowin]

I think that supercropping effects the flow of nutrients that the plant receives,a bit like drinking through a straw that has been bent.

It does exactly that yes, and that is the purpose of supercropping. As you see in the first post the branch that is not supercropped is growing a lot faster than the one that is supercropped because it is not damaged and is not drinking from a bent straw. But look at the four secondary buds. The two that are growing from the supercropped branch is a lot larger than the two from the not supercropped branch, because some of the energy is redirected away from the damaged main. Additionally the canopy is close to perfectly aligned in the side that is supercropped and it obviously isn't in the non-supercropped part.

Sure, scrog could do the same. I have yet to try scrogging, but i think i will stick with supercropping for my next grow. Scrog is also a lot of extra work managing the canopy, where with supercropping the canopy will align pretty much by it self. At least it did in this case.

 

[Smoken-n-Token]

Thanks, it is a Hans Panel 80 watt LED panel, and the seeds is from seedsman.

Hey, I hate to jump in and off subject but I was reading your earlier post. You said you got these from SeedsMen. Are you in the US? If so how long do it take, from the time they charge your card to the time to your doorstep? I'm really about to order from them right now, and was unsure if I should.

 

[Groowin]

Hey, I hate to jump in and off subject but I was reading your earlier post. You said you got these from SeedsMen. Are you in the US? If so how long do it take, from the time they charge your card to the time to your doorstep? I'm really about to order from them right now, and was unsure if I should.

Sorry i cant help you there. I am in Europe and i bought them from a physical store.
I like the seeds a lot though. Nicely hard and with a lot of black stripes and spots.

 

[tyke1973]

It does exactly that yes, and that is the purpose of supercropping. As you see in the first post the branch that is not supercropped is growing a lot faster than the one that is supercropped because it is not damaged and is not drinking from a bent straw. But look at the four secondary buds. The two that are growing from the supercropped branch is a lot larger than the two from the not supercropped branch, because some of the energy is redirected away from the damaged main. Additionally the canopy is close to perfectly aligned in the side that is supercropped and it obviously isn't in the non-supercropped part.

Sure, scrog could do the same. I have yet to try scrogging, but i think i will stick with supercropping for my next grow. Scrog is also a lot of extra work managing the canopy, where with supercropping the canopy will align pretty much by it self. At least it did in this case.

The main reason that i have ever supercropped ,is for one reason and one reason alone that is to allow side branches to catch up with the main top or a way of controlling the height,gives you a week or so of vertical growth while the plant put all of its effort into repairing the bend,eg the elbow that will be there once it repairs.

A far better way is to just pull the top over to the point where just before its gonna fold and tie it down,i used to all ways super crop,but i have tested most methods and none beat scrog up to now i get min 28 dry from one plant,last grow i got a 1/8th over a ;b a plant 2 lb from 2 cool vented 600 hps lights.

I am doing a new strain for my x mas stash of oil and hash,and i have two lovely pheno's of the strain one is a small stocky plant more indica then sativa the other grows simular to the other but its just super charged monster i up load photo's tommorow,Its gdppbc.Grand daddy platinum purp berry cookies,what a shyt name,but the plant is just un real.

I have been looking for something new for a while now i just normally do uk cheese or jack herer or blues,i have had these around for a good few year now but i thought i would try something new for the festive period and it smells like it says on the packet fresh baked cookies sweet,no signs of the purple yet though,its a candyland x black sugar berry.its the only plant that i have ever put into you tube and not found any thing,so i gonna keep the plants progress up dated.

I have only ever done a couple of purple strains before and it was that long ago,i have no idea at what age they start to really purp up,if memory serves me well i think it was around week 6/7 but any advice from purp growers with this question would be good .



.......................................HYJACK HYJACK HYJACK YA THREAD SORRY DUDE,just scrog

 

[tyke1973]

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