giving defoliation during flower a try

waterdawg

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Well there ya go!!! I'm sold lol. Look people the only way this is going to be solved is to try different products and see for yourself imo. I have been using the same nutes from day 1 and have had pretty good luck for a newb. Its made by same guys that make pure flowers .... EZ-Grow i believe. I just switched the last run to H&G and kept one tray using the original stuff. The H&G is hands down giving better results but yes its pricey and Im cheap lol. Just saying try different things and see what works for your setup.
 

pk_boosted2

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Yeah dyna gro sucks. I mean it. Had a customer running some berry haze and tahoe og him and his boy both were running it. And the dude who used botanicares came and brought me samples and then the dude who had dyna gro brought in his they didnt even look like the swme strain werent even recognizeable. He wound up sending the dyna gro sample to a lab came back with 7 some odd % his boys piece using botanicare came back at almost double at 13

Hes been runnin dyna gro for a while after reading sbout it on here now hes runnin jacks classic hes reason i came on here lol

He says jacks classic comin out better than the dyna gro but well see. And he was so impressed w his boys shit w the botwnicare he said if it doesnt come out right after this run hes gonna go with them. He posts on here all the time im waitin til he comes back tostore to speak w him again hopefully this week. And ill have him tell u for himself im sure u guys know who he is been on here for a few years now u can ask em yourself
 

pk_boosted2

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What makes u think im a AN salesman ive spoke about multiple nutrient companies that are great once again im not even using them right now im using botanicare and soul synthetics having great results w both trying organics right now and they are stacking up nicely so am i trying to sell their products too ? No im tellin u what works this whole shit started bcuz uncle ben tried tellin everyone that companies w bloom enhancers and pk boosters were all bs which they srent they serve specific purposes that are proven to work and out perform ones that dont. So u can thank him for that. Which led to why AN is such a good product.
 

pk_boosted2

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If you guys want to get back on topic i start from the top

Question do you need to use bloom enhancers?
Answer, NO! Bloom enhancers are meant to do exactly what they say providing supplemental blooming stimulants to your plants during critical periods of bloom. This is the reason why there are various types of bloom enhancers. There are 4 main stages during flowering understanding what your plants require is important in knowing when and how much to add.

Its like when you go to the gym and u are working out hard throughout the course of several weeks and months. When u are pushing yourself to the limits your body can benefit from additional nutrients same goes for plants. Is a bloom enhancer the end all to yield and production? NO! Its a supplement that when added correctly will greatly impact resin production, bud size, which leads to increased yield and quality. There are several great bloom enhancers but like anything else for every 1 thats good theres 5 that are absolute garbage. I agree with that. If your garden isnt running optimally and everything is correct your not going to see a benefit from running them because shit isnt right to begin with. With that said, addding crazy amounts of P during early bloom can mess up nutrient uptake of micros and macros like calcium, mag and iron so knowing when and how much is very important.

You dont need to begin them until bud development starts and then you add them.. Followed by your peak bloom phase which is when u want to increase your potassium to provide energy for your plants when metabolism has slowed and energy consumption is high you supplement with a "pk booster" exactly what it says allows your plants the additional boost they need to push through the rest of flower and into the ripening stage.

Nutrient companies have figured this out which is why they break it down into seperste bottles. You cant just have one bottle and say ok well when ur in peak bloom just run 30 more ml a gallon that will give u more of xyz u will burn ur plants to the ground. This is why they come in their own bottles so u know when to add them and how much to give them the extra kick they need. They do work and they do work well and that was my point.

But i was told im an idiot im wrong etc etc etc...
 

chuck estevez

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I bet you never ran straight foliage pro in pro-mix, if you did, you wouldn't be typing hundreds of paragraphs parroting the same cannabis specific nute bullshit
 

pk_boosted2

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No i never ran dyna gro because i know plenty people whi have tried it friends included and it does not produce the results that are up to my standards of quality and yield. I told u i stand by my statement that dyna gro is crap for cannabis. Might be great for my pansies and marigolds lol
 

Flatlines

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this thread should be locked turned into poop its gone so off topic people are fighting about neutrients man and if ur spending 100s on that shit ur doing it WRONG

this is what i think of this thread when i see itgiphy3.gif
 

Cannasutraorganics

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No i never ran dyna gro because i know plenty people whi have tried it friends included and it does not produce the results that are up to my standards of quality and yield. I told u i stand by my statement that dyna gro is crap for cannabis. Might be great for my pansies and marigolds lol
Your going to upset Aunt B with all this talk about different nutes weed needs at different times to get quality bud. He'll have his minions tell you then he'll chime in.
 

chuck estevez

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I bet you never ran straight foliage pro in pro-mix, if you had, you wouldn't be typing hundreds of paragraphs parroting the same cannabis specific nute bullshit
 

pk_boosted2

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No i wouldnt id be telling u the same thing. It dont compare to canna or advanced and ill let u know how good botanicare and soul shnthetics are in a few weeks ill show u some real results with quality flowers and heavy yields. Without running heavy nitrogen based ferts like dyn foliage pro
 

pk_boosted2

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I tell u what ill do a side by side my next run 4 plants of each in one of my quadrants u guys pick the other 3 nutrient companies u want me to use i will do a no BS side by side and take pics every 1st day of the week and a harvest yield count and ill get the shit sent to the lab.

Ill pick 2 brands of my chosing u guys pick the other 2 and well see im open to anything ive tried alot of shit and i know what works but ill apease the masses for some real results and see how shit stacks up
 

pk_boosted2

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Ive seen alot of runs done with this stuff and i have never been impressed. And im being honest man. I might have a shop and like advanced and canna (which i dont even carry) i have buy it online myself. But those have always worked best for me. And this isnt me selling shit i just love seeing great results cuz i want them for myself and my customers. If i cant offer them the best id be out of business. I get dyna gro but it dont sell. Got only like 2 ppl who use it if that
 

waterdawg

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40 years and counting.
Yup same here. Whats your point? Like I said I tried something new and found it worked better. Just saying it is possible. And yes maybe next run I'll try Jacks side by side if I can still afford the HG lol. And yes this is the 40th anniversary of my first grow lol. I was 14 lol.
 

pk_boosted2

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I just know dyna gro has to much N for bloom that inhibits optimum flowering potential reduces yields and quality. Will ur shit stay green through end of bloom yes but thats not always a good thing. Its too green because of the excess N. That fucks up taste and how it smokes. Dyna gro not meant for cannabis
 

Cannasutraorganics

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Ive seen alot of runs done with this stuff and i have never been impressed. And im being honest man. I might have a shop and like advanced and canna (which i dont even carry) i have buy it online myself. But those have always worked best for me. And this isnt me selling shit i just love seeing great results cuz i want them for myself and my customers. If i cant offer them the best id be out of business. I get dyna gro but it dont sell. Got only like 2 ppl who use it if that
Try BioCanna. The full line with Bio Boost and Cannazyme. Add silica and calmag. This is with soilless soil.
 

Cannasutraorganics

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I tell u what ill do a side by side my next run 4 plants of each in one of my quadrants u guys pick the other 3 nutrient companies u want me to use i will do a no BS side by side and take pics every 1st day of the week and a harvest yield count and ill get the shit sent to the lab.

Ill pick 2 brands of my chosing u guys pick the other 2 and well see im open to anything ive tried alot of shit and i know what works but ill apease the masses for some real results and see how shit stacks up
What size and styl pots?
 

pk_boosted2

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I love canna esp biocanna organics shit is the best. Only thing i supplement is the pk 13/14 i make my own pk boost w humboldt honey es 0-10-0 and techna flora soluable seaweed 1-1-16 i got the recipe from kyle kushman shit works wonders and all organic but i run it whole time and i start boost week or so before bloom at 1/2 strength fire everything up works amazing
 
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