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st0wandgrow

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pk_boosted2 said:
Im not a scientist or botanist my any means but all nutrients are not created equal

The process from extraction to how they are processed to how they are binded and structured in the bases and bottles is all part of what makes one nutrient line better than another. How the nutrients are chelated, and their level of soluability is essential in what makes one nutrient better than the other. Whether nutrients are derived from plant, animal or lab made makes a difference. Theres so many factors and variables that make nutrients different, companies like Advanced understand this and pay millions per year formulating their nutrients to be the best and i agree and find that they really are
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Do you think that AN has chemists in a lab synthesizing these salts?

To my knowledge a company like AN buys bulk salts from a supplier, mixes them, then slaps a fancy label on the bottle and sells it for a killing.

Am I wrong?
 
Sativied

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Ninjabowler said:
You did a really good job of not answering any of my questions
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You get elaborate answers that aren't exactly what you wanted to hear so you pretend you haven't read them and I haven't posted them? You are quickly reducing yourself to @mainliner status, too ridiculous and desperate. Your eagerness to show UB wrong, and to share that with the world is downright pathetic and implies he is more a legend in your mind than anyone else's. The answer to all your questions is "it depends". When you're through acting like a kid, I'd be happy to elaborate, again.
 
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Sativied

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st0wandgrow said:
when the reality is it's 95% genetics.
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It is largely advances in and through breeding that lead to a century of increasing crop yields to feed the ever growing population. I've said it before, while people worry about a few grams more bud to smoke, we're going to have a serious problem feeding the population on the planet. Trying to ram more P into the current plants isn't going to solve the problem, continue to breed new cultivars that can take up more nutes and process more CO2 will.

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Christ, I think Uncle Ben is an arrogant douche nozzle but I can at least admit when the man is right.
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Now that folks, is a good example of being intellectually honest. Bravo.
 
pk_boosted2

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I did break down why advanced nutrients are better i spoke about the sources they use in cultivating and processing their nutrients using field studies in providing the best nutrients available for plants uptake. For instance using bat guano derived from fruit eating bats over insect eating bats that focus on nitrogen over phosphorous sources.. They research how bacteria coincides with nitrogen uptake in the rhizosphere to convert nonusable nitrogen found in the earths atmosphere such as n3 into usable source of nitrogen that plants can uptake. Thats why they spend so much money on research and development to provide such high quality sources of fertilizers. They also use processes throughout their extraction of these nutrients to make them soluable and chelate them so plants can easily absorb them into their their cells through the roots. Theres alot of information you can easily get from their website that breaks down how it works im not gonna go through it all on here because is such in depth i dont have time to write all of it down.

They also makes sure that when they process and culture the bacteria found inside their nutrients all work together to promote healthy robust root zone and mass by working together in promoting plant development. They do this through research and studying molecules and binding capabilities and how they coincide with each other to use oxygen, nitrogen in earths atmosphere into usable sources the plant needs for maximum growth potential. These formulas are specifically blended to ensure that. Idk what else their is to say go read up about it theres plenty of info out there
 
Uncle Ben

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SEATTLE, Nov. 19, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- A new era for Advanced Nutrients starts today with founder Michael Straumietis becoming the sole owner of the biggest producer of hydroponic nutrients. By taking the reins of the company, BigMike makes sure that Advanced Nutrients will follow a single direction - the right one.

Translation - "Hurray for me, fuck you."

One of the very first steps being the introduction of three innovative product lines that will revolutionize the hydroponic industry.

I rest my case.

Mike aint no dummy. A new product line will surely have the sucker bets coming in for more. ;)
 
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Uncle Ben

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pk_boosted2 said:
I did break down why advanced nutrients are better i spoke about the sources they use in cultivating and processing their nutrients using field studies in providing the best nutrients available for plants uptake. For instance using bat guano derived from fruit eating bats over insect eating bats that focus on nitrogen over phosphorous sources.. They research how bacteria coincides with nitrogen uptake in the rhizosphere to convert nonusable nitrogen found in the earths atmosphere such as n3 into usable source of nitrogen that plants can uptake. Thats why they spend so much money on research and development to provide such high quality sources of fertilizers. They also use processes throughout their extraction of these nutrients to make them soluable and chelate them so plants can easily absorb them into their their cells through the roots. Theres alot of information you can easily get from their website that breaks down how it works im not gonna go through it all on here because is such in depth i dont have time to write all of it down.

They also makes sure that when they process and culture the bacteria found inside their nutrients all work together to promote healthy robust root zone and mass by working together in promoting plant development. They do this through research and studying molecules and binding capabilities and how they coincide with each other to use oxygen, nitrogen in earths atmosphere into usable sources the plant needs for maximum growth potential. These formulas are specifically blended to ensure that. Idk what else their is to say go read up about it theres plenty of info out there
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If you knew how to spell and construct a decent sentence with some semblance of merit, you just might be a good marketing rep for Big Mike. You sure got the bullshit down pat.

You could sit on his lap fingering your ipad and whatever else rises to the occasion. Part of his gangstas was indicted for child rape so you two would get along jusssssssssst fine. ;)

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pk_boosted2

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Well okay everyone just use jack's classic its best on the industry except you wont find it at any hydro store or from any hydroponic wholesaler or any medical grower in the country but its the best its been around since the 70s-80s but noone uses besides uncle ben it must just be your little secret then i guess? I dont get it. Ive never seen anyone besides agway and home and garden stores carry it. Never seen it in any magazine or article pertaining to growing cannabis never seen em at a show or expo for cannabis never seen an advertisement or anything. In such a growing and expanding business and top dollar industry why wouldnt that be so? Just want an asnwer to that
 
pk_boosted2

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Yeah those ballast are crap dont carry and dont recommend them to anyone. I dont even know if they still make those.mor the fans had nothing but problems with them
 
pk_boosted2

pk_boosted2

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Can you answer the question regarding why noone carries jacks classic at hydro stores or dyna gro you usually wont find many places at least not anywhere around where i am in new england

Furthermore id like to know why companies start cannabis specific nutrient lines and thrive in a highly competetive industry if everyone could simply use cheap off the shelf nutrient like the ones u tell people to buy?

Im just curious now as to why this is? I would like a response to this as you always have something to say.. Its my understanding that if bottom line needs to be met and profits need to be turned why wouldnt everyone spend the least amount of money on nutrients like the ones that you recommend? While you deter people from buying "expensive" and marketed nutrients specifically advanced nutrients if you think they dont work because you said yourself they are snake oil so im makig that assumption you feel that you get better results Dyna gro per say? Ill be waiting for an aswer. Ive answered all of your question you asked me would be great to hear the response. Thanks for your time
 
st0wandgrow

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pk_boosted2 said:
Can you answer the question regarding why noone carries jacks classic at hydro stores or dyna gro you usually wont find many places at least not anywhere around where i am in new england
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Profit margin

pk_boosted2 said:
Furthermore id like to know why companies start cannabis specific nutrient lines and thrive in a highly competetive industry if everyone could simply use cheap off the shelf nutrient like the ones u tell people to buy?
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No offense to my fellow stoners, but we're not the most sophisticated bunch. People fall for the fancy labels and cheesey names. "Bud Swell". Who wouldn't want their buds to swell to epic proportions?

These companies are capitalizing on the ignorance of marijuana growers. Weed is one of the most profitable crops known to man, and the folks currently growing it (for the most part) don't even know the basics of botany. A clueless crowd with a fist full of cash is very enticing to businesses.
 
pk_boosted2

pk_boosted2

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Exactly so jacks classic raises their prices and says hey this is the best marijuana nitrient on the market we guarantee it thats why we want 200$ a bottle for are bases.. And now whats ur point?
 
pk_boosted2

pk_boosted2

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If that shot was so good they would market it u just said its the most profitable crop on the planet besides cocoa.. Why wouldnt they want their piece of the market? They could easily start a 2 or 3 part nutrient line through in the bloom enhancer (which they do have) and whatever else they want raise their prices and say they are the best? You know because they know thats not what their nutrients are designed for. Which is whats makes advanced and canna so good u get what you pay for.
 
pk_boosted2

pk_boosted2

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You could sue advanced nutrients for millions because they guarantee money back they grow the biggest highest thc content quality marijuana nutrient on the planet and u know why because they do trials and research on it. And no company has beaten them or what to spend the money it would cost to do the research and try to disprove the claims that they have best nutrients. That should tell you something.

Case in point ppl sue for the dumbest shit redbull just lost millions because someone sued em because it doesnt give u wings and they lost the case. False advertisement. If advanced wasnt the best i would start my own suit and sue shit out of em if u can prove that they statements were false it hasnt been done there have been a ton of runs by many companies and advanced has produced the highest yielding and highest thc content out of numerous other companies.. Dyna gro in all their studies came in almost dead last in all categories go google it and u will see it for yourself
 
pk_boosted2

pk_boosted2

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Speaking of big swell im using it right now and its fuckin awesome.. Thats a yucca and molasses based product carbohydrate bloom enhancer its giving me phenomenal results
 
chuck estevez

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dumbass answer from a dumbass hydro store owner,you don't find it in there because there is no money to be made selling a tub for $10 how much do you sell fox farms for? Isn't that your lost leader to get people into the store to buy AN BS?
pk_boosted2 said:
Well okay everyone just use jack's classic its best on the industry except you wont find it at any hydro store or from any hydroponic wholesaler or any medical grower in the country but its the best its been around since the 70s-80s but noone uses besides uncle ben it must just be your little secret then i guess? I dont get it. Ive never seen anyone besides agway and home and garden stores carry it. Never seen it in any magazine or article pertaining to growing cannabis never seen em at a show or expo for cannabis never seen an advertisement or anything. In such a growing and expanding business and top dollar industry why wouldnt that be so? Just want an asnwer to that
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pk_boosted2

pk_boosted2

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I dont push any products onto anyone i just recommend things that are tried and true that really work. If i wanted to make money id push every onto Gh 3 part
 
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