GruberCare

desert dude

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How much did it cost to get 8 million sign ups for one year?

You have never made a hell of a lot of sense on this Buck.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176

In March 2010, CBO and JCT projected that the provisions of the ACA related to health insurance coverage would cost the federal government $759 billion during fiscal years 2014 through 2019 (which was the last year in the 10-year budget window being used at that time). The newest projections indicate that those provisions will cost $710 billion over that same period.

So, let's use $710B / 5 years. (2014 - 2019) = $142 Billion per year for the first 5 years. This will never go down only up.

$142B / .008B subscribers = $17,750 per person per year, already.

And for this cost, the Admin sneaked in tax and lied about it so the Critters could spread the lie and fool the People.

Here is the list of new taxes and it is the first time we have a value add tax structure on Medical.
20 new or hiked taxes.
http://jeffduncan.house.gov/full-list-obamacare-tax-hikes
Every time a tax is raised a progressive has an orgasm.
 

ginwilly

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I admire your attempt Doer, but when one of the main architects comes out publicly saying "it's not really what we told you it was", yet the idiots like snitchbuck STILL parrot the talking points (that were admitted lies), we have to realize the truth doesn't matter and some people are so partisan that reason is not possible.
 

desert dude

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We know what kind of Democrat Buck is.

"“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” said Gruber. “Basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.” This was no open-mic gaffe. It was a clear, indeed enthusiastic, admission to an academic conference of the mendacity underlying Obamacare."
 

Doer

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I admire your attempt Doer, but when one of the main architects comes out publicly saying "it's not really what we told you it was", yet the idiots like snitchbuck STILL parrot the talking points (that were admitted lies), we have to realize the truth doesn't matter and some people are so partisan that reason is not possible.
Oh, I agree with all that, except I am not attempting anything.

...like trying to convince someone? Oh hell, no. Not me.
 

UncleBuck

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The only person misrepresenting that poll is you. Go Ahead, lets see that poll so everyone can see its just the opinion of ACA supporters, go ahead, do it.

We all know you won't.
your are the one making that claim, the burden of proof is one you.

not sure why they show the stats about all the republicans they polled if they only polled ACA supporters you lying idiot.
 

UncleBuck

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I admire your attempt Doer, but when one of the main architects comes out publicly saying "it's not really what we told you it was", yet the idiots like snitchbuck STILL parrot the talking points (that were admitted lies), we have to realize the truth doesn't matter and some people are so partisan that reason is not possible.
yet obamacare is in nearly full swing and 59% of americans want to keep it or expand on it.

only 11% of people want to get rid of it and put in a republican alternative.

you gonna track my IP and call the FBI on me because i made your anus cry tears of anguish by reciting mundane facts ya fucking snitch?
 

Herb & Suds

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As I sit here with a "pre-existing condition" I ponder what the Republicans have done for middle class america for the last 14 years
and all that comes to mind is ***

ZERO< ZIP, NADA
as I still wait on the Last republican Regime Trickle
 

nontheist

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yet obamacare is in nearly full swing and 59% of americans want to keep it or expand on it.

only 11% of people want to get rid of it and put in a republican alternative.

you gonna track my IP and call the FBI on me because i made your anus cry tears of anguish by reciting mundane facts ya fucking snitch?

Im not sure where you're getting your numbers or when but it looks like ACA support is poor.

This was from Monday the 10th

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 44% of Likely U.S. Voters now have at least a somewhat favorable opinion of Obamacare, consistent with surveying since early 2013. Fifty percent (50%) still view the law unfavorably, but that’s down from 53% two weeks ago and the lowest finding since mid-October of last year.

This includes 19% with a Very Favorable view of the law and twice as many 37%

not to mention 60% Expect Obamacare to Increase Health Care Costs

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

Now add to this that voters who supported ACA are now nationally exposed as gullible idiots and I am sure will be beat to death this factoid from the Obama cabinet will affect future popularity of this bill.
 
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ginwilly

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yet obamacare is in nearly full swing and 59% of americans want to keep it or expand on it.

only 11% of people want to get rid of it and put in a republican alternative.

you gonna track my IP and call the FBI on me because i made your anus cry tears of anguish by reciting mundane facts ya fucking snitch?

it'll be OK dude, maybe he really didn't mean you when he talked about the idiots that believe what they are told.

This post saved or created 4 million jobs!
 

UncleBuck

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Im not sure where you're getting your numbers or when but it looks like ACA support is poor.

This was from Monday the 10th

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 44% of Likely U.S. Voters now have at least a somewhat favorable opinion of Obamacare, consistent with surveying since early 2013. Fifty percent (50%) still view the law unfavorably, but that’s down from 53% two weeks ago and the lowest finding since mid-October of last year.

This includes 19% with a Very Favorable view of the law and twice as many 37%

not to mention 60% Expect Obamacare to Increase Health Care Costs

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

Now add to this that voters who supported ACA are now nationally exposed as gullible idiots and I am sure will be beat to death this factoid from the Obama cabinet will affect future popularity of this bill.
does your poll take into account the number of americans who want to keep obamacare AND expand upon it?

:lol:

no, it doesn't.

59% of americans want to keep obamacare and expand on it.

only 11% want the republican alternative.

loser.
 

UncleBuck

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it'll be OK dude, maybe he really didn't mean you when he talked about the idiots that believe what they are told.

This post saved or created 4 million jobs!
how do you explain the fact that now that obamacare is in almost full effect, 59% of americans want to keep it and expand on it?

why do only 11% of americans favor your republican alternative?
 

Doer

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yet obamacare is in nearly full swing and 59% of americans want to keep it or expand on it.
Gallup disagrees. HA HA
http://www.gallup.com/poll/170750/despite-enrollment-success-healthcare-law-remains-unpopular.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Although the Obama administration is boasting higher-than-expected enrollment for the Affordable Care Act, Americans' attitudes toward the healthcare law have changed only marginally since the open enrollment period ended for 2014. A steady 43% of Americans approve of the 2010 Affordable Care Act, also known as "Obamacare," while a majority continue to disapprove of it, roughly where sentiment was before the enrollment window officially closed on March 31.
 

Doer

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So, why don't you post results instead of whining about your fake numbers?


It is easy to be satisfied with something that has been sold as a pack of lies....until we figure it out.​
 

ginwilly

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how do you explain the fact that now that obamacare is in almost full effect, 59% of americans want to keep it and expand on it?

why do only 11% of americans favor your republican alternative?
I explain it easily.


"“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” said Gruber. “Basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.” This was no open-mic gaffe. It was a clear, indeed enthusiastic, admission to an academic conference of the mendacity underlying Obamacare."
 
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