Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Shwagbag

Shwagbag

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Here's a question... Have any of you seen any positive results from just bubbling water and giving it to your plants in inoculated soil with carbs like dry molasses in the soil?

I realize its not the same as multiplying bact/fungi in a tea, but I wonder if it has any benefits none the less.

I LOVE AACT. But I hate the mess so bad lol.

Another question RE grass tea. How does it work against root aphids?
 
greasemonkeymann

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DonTesla said:
I think there is good place for tea's in organic growing, but for me, ideally would be no teas during the grow if the soil was well inoculated and amended.

If i see one bug i don't like (aphid etc), i like to add a Frass tea

If it got too dry/stressed, or top dress with something like basic mix, i inoculate

Edit: It was the thick syrupy molasses i don't like to work with so much, ha

But since I'm doing a re veg and what not, I don't see a problem with another tea or two for the ladies.
Usually our soil can finish plants with some sheen, even 11 wk sativas.

So the next test will be the Black Forrest, a 7 month beast!

@DonPetro, thatta boi!!

@stowandgrow 5x more yield with the myco?! Dam. them girls say fungi cute ha
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hey do you ferment your frass tea, or do anything extra to extract the chitin? Bubble? Boil?
 
Shwagbag

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Nice plants Cronik :D Do eye spy a kitty hair? lol

I think I will bubble some H20 as well, clean style lol.

I did some research on glycerol as a carbohydrate last night, but it doesn't appear that its very effective. Not exactly organic either, but I thought it may still be applicable to organic growing styles.
 
DonTesla

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greasemonkeymann said:
hey do you ferment your frass tea, or do anything extra to extract the chitin? Bubble? Boil?
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Dry is fastest and easiest, just work it in.

An 8 hour soak is better.

Activated with air i have heard that adding it an hour before use is ideal,
have also heard you can aerate it for longer.

Still looking for some microscopic confirmations but if not used stronger than recc'd you can use it weekly. I find one dose has repeated effects every watering though. We usually try find the minimum effective dose, the MED principle
 
st0wandgrow

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DonTesla said:
yea, the fabrics sure breathe more, i even mist the outsides sometimes. And a thick meaty vegetarian mulch, mon. but nothing like holding a happy smart pot a little while after watering. Like holding a baby, you can just feel the precious life in harmony and balance.
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So what's the verdict on the fabric pots? I've been rocking the old school black plastic containers for years.

Is it a noticeable difference?
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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DonTesla said:
Dry is fastest and easiest, just work it in.

An 8 hour soak is better.

Activated with air i have heard that adding it an hour before use is ideal,
have also heard you can aerate it for longer.

Still looking for some microscopic confirmations but if not used stronger than recc'd you can use it weekly. I find one dose has repeated effects every watering though. We usually try find the minimum effective dose, the MED principle
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whats the application rate?
how much per gallon, and do you dilute it?
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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st0wandgrow said:
So what's the verdict on the fabric pots? I've been rocking the old school black plastic containers for years.

Is it a noticeable difference?
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I love fabric pots, Stow, it a worthwhile investment in my opinion, only downfalls are moving them can be a pain, the pots are all short (relatively compared to plastic)and transplanting from them is a bitch (I've seen some with a Velcro "seam" but haven't tried them)
good stuff though, i switched out all mine about six yrs ago or so.
I am toying around with the idea of making my own, and making mine square too, to maximize my growing area. Not sure why somebody hasn't come up with that already
 
st0wandgrow

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greasemonkeymann said:
I love fabric pots, Stow, it a worthwhile investment in my opinion, only downfalls are moving them can be a pain, the pots are all short (relatively compared to plastic)and transplanting from them is a bitch (I've seen some with a Velcro "seam" but haven't tried them)
good stuff though, i switched out all mine about six yrs ago or so.
I am toying around with the idea of making my own, and making mine square too, to maximize my growing area. Not sure why somebody hasn't come up with that already
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Man, you might have just sold me. I'm not worried about transplants. I go from cloner, to small 1/2 gallon square container, right to the final 10 gallon container. Those 10 gals are no-tills, so the soil would stay put for a good year or longer.

I just bought a bunch of new plastic ones too. Frig. Wonder if drilling holes all along the sides would be beneficial? I just hate to not use them considering I just bought them. Maybe I'll pick up a few fabric ones and just do a little side x side comparison before I replace them all...
 
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I made my fabric pots homemade and I can say that if you are going to go for freestanding pots then go cylindrical. I made some squares at first too but if they are too big they bulge out and make a circle anyway, unless you use a pvc frame then they just bulge. I do love the fabric pots! Although the edges are always bone dry with blumats my plants are always praying. I try to give them water daily for the heck of it because I hate the dry edges, but they plants do not seem to mind at all.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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CannaBare said:
I made my fabric pots homemade and I can say that if you are going to go for freestanding pots then go cylindrical. I made some squares at first too but if they are too big they bulge out and make a circle anyway, unless you use a pvc frame then they just bulge. I do love the fabric pots! Although the edges are always bone dry with blumats my plants are always praying. I try to give them water daily for the heck of it because I hate the dry edges, but they plants do not seem to mind at all.
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i'm mostly wanting to maximize the amount of soil, in the space provided, you can fit more in a square pot, no?
 
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CannaBare

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greasemonkeymann said:
i'm mostly wanting to maximize the amount of soil, in the space provided, you can fit more in a square pot, no?
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If they are no-till and you can allow the plants to grow into each others pots then it will work fabulously. Square is honestly better if you do not plan to move them.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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st0wandgrow said:
Man, you might have just sold me. I'm not worried about transplants. I go from cloner, to small 1/2 gallon square container, right to the final 10 gallon container. Those 10 gals are no-tills, so the soil would stay put for a good year or longer.

I just bought a bunch of new plastic ones too. Frig. Wonder if drilling holes all along the sides would be beneficial? I just hate to not use them considering I just bought them. Maybe I'll pick up a few fabric ones and just do a little side x side comparison before I replace them all...
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one thing i wish i did, is buy the lighter colored ones, half of mine are black, and i wished i got them all light colored, the black, which is a whore when you do an outside harvest, the black fabric get the roots a lil more hot than i'd prefer. But if you are inside, it doesn;t matter, obviously
 
Shwagbag

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Check out Oregon Breathers. They last quite awhile and have handles. Makes moving a cinch as long as your not growing trees.

I'm doing my first runs with airpots. I ran breathers for years. They work awesome but cleaning them sucks.
 
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