Best/easiest nutrients for a hempy noob?

[catfishclyde]

I will be starting a hempy grow for the first time here pretty soon as was watning to get your opinions on what is the easiest nutes to use that will give me good results? I was leaning towards the AN ph perfect grow, micro, and bloom, but have been told they are way overpriced. Any suggestions?

 

[DeeTee]

To this day I'm not sure I understand what " Hempy grow" is but I have good results using GH Maxi Grow and Bloom, been using it for more than a year, it's a powder and dissolves with no problems, it's also not as expensive compared to others I've tried.

 

[DeeTee]

Well I just looked up hempy grow on you tube and now realize that's exactly how I grow, tho I thought mine is flood and drain, that is to say I fill a small pot (1 gal I guess) with grow cubes, place my plant, fill with nutes and let it all drain out the bottom, someone let me know, am I hempy or flood and drain, one learns something new every day, best of luck to you.

 

[Stoned Drifter]

I did successful hempy grows last year with dyna gro foliage pro @ 1.25ml start to finish !!! and don't forget gh calmag @ 1.25ml per gal if ur using coco. check out my hempy grow journal. it was just way too easy. and now foliage pro is my and along with many tomato growers favorite fertilizer. shit you can even email dyna-gro and ask for a sample and they'll send u one for free!!!

 

[Theophilus]

I did successful hempy grows last year with dyna gro foliage pro @ 1.25ml start to finish !!! and don't forget gh calmag @ 1.25ml per gal if ur using coco. check out my hempy grow journal. it was just way too easy. and now foliage pro is my and along with many tomato growers favorite fertilizer. shit you can even email dyna-gro and ask for a sample and they'll send u one for free!!!

Are you still using ProTekt with the Foliage Pro? Or any other additives along the way? I am in coco as well...

 

[Stoned Drifter]

Are you still using ProTekt with the Foliage Pro? Or any other additives along the way? I am in coco as well...

yes still using foliage pro with protekt. I was adding maxicrop powdered seaweed but I haven't noticed any benefits, also it raises my ph too high and I prefer not to use ph down. my foliage pro is running low so I might try jacks citrus feed, or petunia feed next.

 

[TheChemist77]

i did side by side compares w/ a lot of diferent huts over the years and the results surprised even me. GH maxi series blew away advanced 3 part and even fox farm, and foiliar pro in a 4x4 flood and drain table..actually the fox farm beat out advanced to.. but all my compares were with base nuts only, no additives or boosters..maxi has everything ur plants need, so does fox farm but the advanced was lacking in something, plants just didnt look as healthy as w/ the others. ive also did tests w/ plant life, B.C., Rockwool 2 part.and many others. GH maxi series and their nova series are both simple and great products, so is GH's 3 part but a little more dificult to get right for beginners as u need to learn to read ur plants and what they want more or less of..overall yields were highest with maxi, nova,foilar pro,and fox farm.advanced was last, even B.C. and plantlife did better..oh i take that back it was better than the rockwool nutes they are complete garbage!

 

[Sativied]

Well I just looked up hempy grow on you tube and now realize that's exactly how I grow, tho I thought mine is flood and drain, that is to say I fill a small pot (1 gal I guess) with grow cubes, place my plant, fill with nutes and let it all drain out the bottom, someone let me know, am I hempy or flood and drain, one learns something new every day, best of luck to you.

The main difference is that in a hemp bucket the drain holes are not on the bottom but a couple of inches from the bottom, on the side. That leaves a little reservoir at the bottom allowing for less frequent watering. Getto style hydro. Hempy is the username from the guy who posted about it in mj forums. It's basically the same as bato buckets or dutch buckets (google those for more professional examples).

 

[TheChemist77]

The main difference is that in a hemp bucket the drain holes are not on the bottom but a couple of inches from the bottom, on the side. That leaves a little reservoir at the bottom allowing for less frequent watering. Getto style hydro. Hempy is the username from the guy who posted about it in mj forums. It's basically the same as bato buckets or dutch buckets (google those for more professional examples).

if our set ups constantly recirculate the water in the 4 inch pvc is it more of a NFT system rather than DWC , or ebb n flo?? also i just wanted to let u know, i just put 20 plants into net pots,, just rooted,, im going to give them a day or 2 to adjust then ill top them, and next week ill trim lower branches and keep the top 4 main branches or top them again if there is time..ill be posting some picks again in a few days.,, i just wont be tying any branches down,,though i know it would be better if i did, i just dont know exactly what i could tie to other than the main stem?? damn if u ever want to go fishing or hunting in north america u can stay here so u can fix my garden.lol.

 

[DeeTee]

The main difference is that in a hemp bucket the drain holes are not on the bottom but a couple of inches from the bottom, on the side. That leaves a little reservoir at the bottom allowing for less frequent watering. Getto style hydro. Hempy is the username from the guy who posted about it in mj forums. It's basically the same as bato buckets or dutch buckets (google those for more professional examples).

Wouldn't that contribute to root rot, allowing 2" of nutrient remaining at the bottom?, I could be wrong.

 

[Sativied]

Wouldn't that contribute to root rot, allowing 2" of nutrient remaining at the bottom?, I could be wrong.

If you use perlite, possibly with some coco or other soilless mix, it will easily suck up the solution from the bottom, besides through the roots itself. If you put the drain hole too high (or have a too wide pot) that is the risk though yes. It's like with soil still a balancing thing, figuring out how often too water and how much. The perlite dries out quite fast and with hempy it's hard to overwater so one can simply refresh that bottom layer (as well as correct ph and ec) by draining more.

 

[Sativied]

if our set ups constantly recirculate the water in the 4 inch pvc is it more of a NFT system rather than DWC , or ebb n flo??

Yes our setups are essentially NFT systems. One can argue semantics and stoner terms but it's just a variation on NFT. GH sells a similar system, the AeroFlo, which is basically NFT (hence the 'flo) with some sprayers to aerate the flow (and not an aeroponics system like some want to pretend).

A more specific term for my setup would be DFT, deep flow technique, because I dam the end to create a deeper flow than a 'nutrient film'. NFT is about keeping the flow shallow, a thin film that therefor remains aerated. When you raise the level, that effect becomes less and less, hence the sprayers (which aren't really needed if the return waterfall is strong enough and/or there are bubbles in the rez).

 

[polo the don]

Yes our setups are essentially NFT systems. One can argue semantics and stoner terms but it's just a variation on NFT. GH sells a similar system, the AeroFlo, which is basically NFT (hence the 'flo) with some sprayers to aerate the flow (and not an aeroponics system like some want to pretend).

A more specific term for my setup would be DFT, deep flow technique, because I dam the end to create a deeper flow than a 'nutrient film'. NFT is about keeping the flow shallow, a thin film that therefor remains aerated. When you raise the level, that effect becomes less and less, hence the sprayers (which aren't really needed if the return waterfall is strong enough and/or there are bubbles in the rez).
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Seems like I've heard someone, possibly you sat, use the term "flooded tubes"?

 

[Sativied]

Seems like I've heard someone, possibly you sat, use the term "flooded tubes"?

Yeah I used that a couple of times. By flooding the tubes you create that deeper flow. I borrowed that term from Heath Robinson (worth googling and seeing pictures if you don't know who that is, his journal here is missing the pics...).



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[TheChemist77]

Yes our setups are essentially NFT systems. One can argue semantics and stoner terms but it's just a variation on NFT. GH sells a similar system, the AeroFlo, which is basically NFT (hence the 'flo) with some sprayers to aerate the flow (and not an aeroponics system like some want to pretend).

A more specific term for my setup would be DFT, deep flow technique, because I dam the end to create a deeper flow than a 'nutrient film'. NFT is about keeping the flow shallow, a thin film that therefor remains aerated. When you raise the level, that effect becomes less and less, hence the sprayers (which aren't really needed if the return waterfall is strong enough and/or there are bubbles in therez).
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thanks, i need to get a pic of my res,, talk about aerated...a 30 gal res and just 1 12 inch airstone,,i think its the hydro farm air pump though that damn thing is powerfull..it has 8 outlets, right now 1 goes to each 4 inch tube and 1 goes to the rez and damn do they bubble!! a little noisy though.

 

[hellmutt bones]

Hempy?? Elaborate.. sorry if u did it on a previous post but too lazy to read.

 

[polo the don]

This is a cool link for bato buckets. I thinking about building a system like this but bigger.

http://www.hydroponics-simplified.com/hydroponic-drip-system.html

 

[TheChemist77]

Yeah I used that a couple of times. By flooding the tubes you create that deeper flow. I borrowed that term from Heath Robinson (worth googling and seeing pictures if you don't know who that is, his journal here is missing the pics...).

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hey sativied, i was thinking about switching my room to 5 gallon dwc buckets w/ 3.75'' net pots..how many do u think i could put under my 2 600 watt hps's w/out moving them. Also do you think i may get better yields doing the buckets instead?? Not really sure it would make a diference..i have to go to town this week so im buying all new 4'' pvc and T's n 90's to rebuild my system plus im going to put it on a small angle so gravity will help the draining problems..I am also going to buy a couple 3 or 5 gal buckets w. lids so i can try n build a bucket or 2 just to see how they work, maybe do a compare w, skunk in 1 bucket and critical mass in the other to see yield diferences. w/ 2 buckets i can also do some more nute compares to but not sure im up to that again as im happy w/ the nutes im using now, but its always a possibility...

 

[Sativied]

This is a cool link for bato buckets. I thinking about building a system like this but bigger.

http://www.hydroponics-simplified.com/hydroponic-drip-system.html

I wonder how using a drip system affects that bottom reservoir, it seems that if you drip the reservoir won't be sucked up from the top as much, nor will it be refreshed as much. Or does it drip enough to actually recirculate?

hey sativied, i was thinking about switching my room to 5 gallon dwc buckets w/ 3.75'' net pots.

Why, because of the draining issue you have/had? Surely that can be solved.

Also do you think i may get better yields doing the buckets instead??

My crystal ball says no You can get the same yields with either.

 

[polo the don]

I wonder how using a drip system affects that bottom reservoir, it seems that if you drip the reservoir won't be sucked up from the top as much, nor will it be refreshed as much. Or does it drip enough to actually recirculate?

Those pre-made bato buckets have a 1 inch rez instead if the typical 2 inches in a hempie and it drips for 15 min 3 times a day. Seems to me the Rez would be refreshed pretty good since it's smaller.